I have successfully gone exactly one month today without a cigerette. [size=14pt]Yay for me![/size]

Totally awesome! :)

I've went.. longer than I can count.  But I never got addicted anyway, so yay for me too :)

You're the best person ever.

I've gone my whole life. You got served beotch, beat that.

I've got approximately 12 hours without one (and I'm craving it)! Go me!

This reminds me, it's time for my smoke break.

wow good job, keep it up

[quote author=SNiFFeR link=topic=9823.msg91510#msg91510 date=1102517985]
I've got approximately 12 hours without one (and I'm craving it)! Go me!
[/quote]

Smoking? Already!

[quote author=Mitosis link=topic=9823.msg91587#msg91587 date=1102555782]
[quote author=SNiFFeR link=topic=9823.msg91510#msg91510 date=1102517985]
I've got approximately 12 hours without one (and I'm craving it)! Go me!
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Smoking? Already!
[/quote]

I started smoking when I was 15. And I'm not proud of the habbit.

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg91501#msg91501 date=1102505352]
I've gone my whole life. You got served beotch, beat that.
[/quote]

Yeah well I'm not republican.

I started when I was 11 :/

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg91661#msg91661 date=1102630012]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg91501#msg91501 date=1102505352]
I've gone my whole life. You got served beotch, beat that.
[/quote]

Yeah well I'm not republican.

I started when I was 11 :/
[/quote]

Lots of Republicans smoke.

11? Wow - did your parents permit it? I've basically not heard of people starting at 11 without parental permission. Except for a former-friend of mine, but I think that was like 12 and his mom snorted coke so :\

Most people start young due to peer pressure  :-\ I tried it when I was what like 9 but didnt liek it. My friend did and he still smokes :( Hes gon down hill. I drink badly though ???

I smoke, just not cigs.

My friends started drugs, then they got their ass kicked.

[quote author=Meh link=topic=9823.msg91669#msg91669 date=1102633981]
Most people start young due to peer pressure :-\ I tried it when I was what like 9 but didnt liek it. My friend did and he still smokes :( Hes gon down hill. I drink badly though ???
[/quote]

When I was nine nobody I knew smoked. My friends didn't start getting into that until sixth/seventh grade.

I didn't know anybody who smoked until highschool (grade 10 or so).  None of my friends have ever smoked. 

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg91666#msg91666 date=1102632190]
Lots of Republicans smoke.
[/quote]

I was making a point that republicans (that voted for Bush) are bad.

I wanted to be a BAD MOTHERFUCKER when I started.  At 16 I calmed down, stopped the drinking, stopped the pot... but I could not quit smoking.

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg91709#msg91709 date=1102639391]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg91666#msg91666 date=1102632190]
Lots of Republicans smoke.
[/quote]

I was making a point that republicans (that voted for Bush) are bad.
[/quote]

I am really not following you. What does smoking have to do with voting? Smoking is bad, I'm assuming you voted for Bush then?

Nevermind.

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg91709#msg91709 date=1102639391]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg91666#msg91666 date=1102632190]
Lots of Republicans smoke.
[/quote]
I wanted to be a BAD MOTHERFUCKER when I started. At 16 I calmed down, stopped the drinking, stopped the pot... but I could not quit smoking.
[/quote]

I'm not really sure why I ever tried it.  I've always been curious about addictions, and why people do stupid stuff, I figure that's why.  I dunno.  I'm glad I decided it was best not to.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg91715#msg91715 date=1102642277]
[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg91709#msg91709 date=1102639391]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg91666#msg91666 date=1102632190]
Lots of Republicans smoke.
[/quote]
I wanted to be a BAD MOTHERFUCKER when I started. At 16 I calmed down, stopped the drinking, stopped the pot... but I could not quit smoking.
[/quote]

I'm not really sure why I ever tried it. I've always been curious about addictions, and why people do stupid stuff, I figure that's why. I dunno. I'm glad I decided it was best not to.
[/quote]

Curiousity killed the iago!

No seriously though, don't even try smoking you'll hate it, and if you get addicted (probably not the first time) you'll hate yourself after that.

What I don't understand is why people start smoking cigarettes. After awhile they all want to quit and then hate themselves for starting.

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg91774#msg91774 date=1102679369]
What I don't understand is why people start smoking cigarettes. After awhile they all want to quit and then hate themselves for starting.
[/quote]
For the social status (questionable), the pose (questionable), a cure for stress (questionable), etc.

From time to time you see a newspaper interviewing some 104 year old.
Newspaper: "What's your secret?"
Old dude: "I smoke cigarettes twice a day!"

And similar things. That gives people the feeling that smoking can't be that bad. After all, you make it to age 104, right?

Then people say, "hmm... This doctor is telling me that if you brush and floss your teeth after chewing tobacco, it reduces the risk of oral cancer by 70%!" and feel good about themselves and continue their destructive activities.

Jigsaw is unavailable for comment.

I smoke, when I drink,I dotn know why, it just goes together. I went out with work and got drunk and burnt my hand on a cigarete I let burn down to far. That made me stop that night. I think that smoking goes well with drinking. Most people I know who dont smoke do when they drink.

[quote author=Meh link=topic=9823.msg91780#msg91780 date=1102682607]
I smoke, when I drink,I dotn know why, it just goes together. I went out with work and got drunk and burnt my hand on a cigarete I let burn down to far. That made me stop that night. I think that smoking goes well with drinking. Most people I know who dont smoke do when they drink.
[/quote]

That seems really stupid :)

I know, but lots of peole do. Perhaps its like eating strawberries and drinking champagne together brings out the tastes  :-\

Like beer and nachos!

[quote]For the social status (questionable), the pose (questionable), a cure for stress (questionable), etc.[/quote]

I was stressed out last night, my stomach was in knots I was shivering and couldn't stay still. Ah, the joys of being an adolescent and talking to non-geek girls. ;) Anyway, to cal my nerves I didn't get a cigarette, no! I got a Coke, which seemed to work for the most part.

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg91838#msg91838 date=1102717674]
[quote]For the social status (questionable), the pose (questionable), a cure for stress (questionable), etc.[/quote]

I was stressed out last night, my stomach was in knots I was shivering and couldn't stay still. Ah, the joys of being an adolescent and talking to non-geek girls. ;) Anyway, to cal my nerves I didn't get a cigarette, no! I got a Coke, which seemed to work for the most part.
[/quote]

Cocaine is considerably better than cigarettes!

But seriously, pop is mostly sugar and caffeine, and I'd bet that drinking a glass of Coke is at least as bad as smoking a cigarette.  Of course, if somebody drank a pack a day, I'd be worried.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg91848#msg91848 date=1102721129]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg91838#msg91838 date=1102717674]
[quote]For the social status (questionable), the pose (questionable), a cure for stress (questionable), etc.[/quote]

I was stressed out last night, my stomach was in knots I was shivering and couldn't stay still. Ah, the joys of being an adolescent and talking to non-geek girls. ;) Anyway, to cal my nerves I didn't get a cigarette, no! I got a Coke, which seemed to work for the most part.
[/quote]
Cocaine is considerably better than cigarettes!
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Not if you're stressed out ;P

[quote author=K link=topic=9823.msg91862#msg91862 date=1102725268]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg91848#msg91848 date=1102721129]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg91838#msg91838 date=1102717674]
[quote]For the social status (questionable), the pose (questionable), a cure for stress (questionable), etc.[/quote]

I was stressed out last night, my stomach was in knots I was shivering and couldn't stay still. Ah, the joys of being an adolescent and talking to non-geek girls. ;) Anyway, to cal my nerves I didn't get a cigarette, no! I got a Coke, which seemed to work for the most part.
[/quote]
Cocaine is considerably better than cigarettes!
[/quote]

Not if you're stressed out ;P
[/quote]

I was both joking and being  facetious :P

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg91848#msg91848 date=1102721129]
Of course, if somebody drank a pack a day, I'd be worried.
[/quote]
I'd be worried if anyone was drinking cigarettes at all.

[quote author=Hitmen link=topic=9823.msg91869#msg91869 date=1102728436]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg91848#msg91848 date=1102721129]
Of course, if somebody drank a pack a day, I'd be worried.
[/quote]
I'd be worried if anyone was drinking cigarettes at all.
[/quote]
I drink cigarettes and smoke soda all the time. Jeez, get with the times.

Yea I smoke a bottle a day.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg91848#msg91848 date=1102721129]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg91838#msg91838 date=1102717674]
[quote]For the social status (questionable), the pose (questionable), a cure for stress (questionable), etc.[/quote]

I was stressed out last night, my stomach was in knots I was shivering and couldn't stay still. Ah, the joys of being an adolescent and talking to non-geek girls. ;) Anyway, to cal my nerves I didn't get a cigarette, no! I got a Coke, which seemed to work for the most part.
[/quote]
Cocaine is considerably better than cigarettes!

But seriously, pop is mostly sugar and caffeine, and I'd bet that drinking a glass of Coke is at least as bad as smoking a cigarette.  Of course, if somebody drank a pack a day, I'd be worried.
[/quote]
I used to drink a pack aday as they were cheapo. Now I stick to a McDonalds aday also cos its cheap :P

[quote author=Falcon[anti-yL] link=topic=9823.msg91671#msg91671 date=1102634397]
I smoke, just not cigs.
[/quote]

I mostly quit everything.. Haven't smoked pot in 4 months... Ciggaretes are just fucking retarded.. I see nothing wrong with drinking, if it's not because of alcoholism.... Or at a party with chicks and you have a girlfriend..  :P

When I was 13 I tried cigarettes and got into partying a lot.  Then I quit smoking them 1 1/2 years later (it's been 1 year now since I've smoked one).  I also don't intend to do it again.  However, I do still go out on weekends with friends and party pretty often (highschool, what can you do?).  But I don't smoke pot or cigarettes (or anything for that matter); I just drink alcohol (but not daily, just on weekends at parties and I make sure not to kill myself...).

I will have to change the name... for I have started again :(.

But instead of regular camels I now smoke LIGHTS!

I've found a reason to quit drugs, I'll see how it goes.

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg95047#msg95047 date=1105584562]
I will have to change the name... for I have started again :(.

But instead of regular camels I now smoke LIGHTS!
[/quote]

Btw, you suck.  Try again! :P

[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg95052#msg95052 date=1105587283]
I've found a reason to quit drugs, I'll see how it goes.
[/quote]
What reason might that be?

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95069#msg95069 date=1105619994]
Btw, you suck.  Try again! :P
[/quote]

Eh. I will try again after I finish my bot.  :P

[quote author=Meh - (S-1-0-0) link=topic=9823.msg95071#msg95071 date=1105622421]
[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg95052#msg95052 date=1105587283]
I've found a reason to quit drugs, I'll see how it goes.
[/quote]
What reason might that be?
[/quote]
A girl :o

[quote author=Meh - (S-1-0-0) link=topic=9823.msg95071#msg95071 date=1105622421]
[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg95052#msg95052 date=1105587283]
I've found a reason to quit drugs, I'll see how it goes.
[/quote]
What reason might that be?
[/quote]

A man.

[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg95157#msg95157 date=1105673420]
[quote author=Meh - (S-1-0-0) link=topic=9823.msg95071#msg95071 date=1105622421]
[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg95052#msg95052 date=1105587283]
I've found a reason to quit drugs, I'll see how it goes.
[/quote]
What reason might that be?
[/quote]
A girl :o
[/quote]

Eww, that never lasts.  Eventually you'll break up, and be depressed, and it'll be much worse.

I didn't really know anyone that smoked until high school.  Now, it seems, ALL of my friends do.  They are also ALL liberal.  (I'm reffering to my closer friends)  Even girl I'm sorta seeing does & see is a sophmore in highschool still...pfft.  I think I'm the only one in our group who doesn't, except for maybe one other guy.  BTW, they also all smoke, *smoke* (if ya know what I mean), & drink

[quote author=CrAz3D (last name was too long) link=topic=9823.msg95184#msg95184 date=1105678554]
BTW, they also all smoke, *smoke* (if ya know what I mean)
[/quote]

No, please elaborate.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95182#msg95182 date=1105678505]
[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg95157#msg95157 date=1105673420]
[quote author=Meh - (S-1-0-0) link=topic=9823.msg95071#msg95071 date=1105622421]
[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg95052#msg95052 date=1105587283]
I've found a reason to quit drugs, I'll see how it goes.
[/quote]
What reason might that be?
[/quote]
A girl :o
[/quote]

Eww, that never lasts.  Eventually you'll break up, and be depressed, and it'll be much worse.
[/quote]

And smoke more than you ever did.

Note: I am not talking from personal experience just what I have seen in others.

[quote author=dxoigmn link=topic=9823.msg95191#msg95191 date=1105680239]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95182#msg95182 date=1105678505]
[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg95157#msg95157 date=1105673420]
[quote author=Meh - (S-1-0-0) link=topic=9823.msg95071#msg95071 date=1105622421]
[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg95052#msg95052 date=1105587283]
I've found a reason to quit drugs, I'll see how it goes.
[/quote]
What reason might that be?
[/quote]
A girl :o
[/quote]

Eww, that never lasts.  Eventually you'll break up, and be depressed, and it'll be much worse.
[/quote]

And smoke more than you ever did.

Note: I am not talking from personal experience just what I have seen in others.
[/quote]

Exactly.  I've seen it happen.

Well, if he got really depressed he might kill himself, then he'd never have to smoke again!

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95182#msg95182 date=1105678505]
Eww, that never lasts. Eventually you'll break up, and be depressed, and it'll be much worse.
[/quote]
Old habits never die, I'll manage to get over it somehow.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95190#msg95190 date=1105680065]
[quote author=CrAz3D (last name was too long) link=topic=9823.msg95184#msg95184 date=1105678554]
BTW, they also all smoke, *smoke* (if ya know what I mean)
[/quote]
No, please elaborate.
[/quote]
The whacky tobaccy?

Most of theemployees at my work place smoke blow to help with the stress of the job :P

[quote author=Meh - (S-1-0-0) link=topic=9823.msg95220#msg95220 date=1105725499]
Most of theemployees at my work place smoke blow to help with the stress of the job :P
[/quote]

"smoke blow"?

In any case, stress is a stupid reason.  There are plenty of clean, legal, and non-poisonous ways to relieve stress.

[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg95204#msg95204 date=1105703268]

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95190#msg95190 date=1105680065]
[quote author=CrAz3D (last name was too long) link=topic=9823.msg95184#msg95184 date=1105678554]
BTW, they also all smoke, *smoke* (if ya know what I mean)
[/quote]
No, please elaborate.
[/quote]
The whacky tobaccy?

[/quote]
Yeah, why I didn't say it is beyond me...

Trust's powerpoint on pot is quite informative & DOES offer some good points as WHY TO smoke pot.  Cigarettes would be different seeing as how they are addiciting & cause more problems.

[quote author=CrAz3D (last name was too long) link=topic=9823.msg95429#msg95429 date=1105902731]
Cigarettes would be different seeing as how they are addiciting & cause more problems.
[/quote]
lol... pot causes the same health problems cigarrettes do, is addictive as well (not so much physically), and can cause or revive mental disorders. I'd like to see this powerpoint presentation though.

[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg95434#msg95434 date=1105904243]
lol... pot causes the same health problems cigarrettes do, is addictive as well (not so much physically), and can cause or revive mental disorders. I'd like to see this powerpoint presentation though.
[/quote]

You lie! Pot is a magical plant from far away that only makes you happy! Doing drugs has absolutly no consequences at all!

You can eat pot and it won't cause the same problems as cigarettes. Also I've never heard of it reviving mental disorders do you have a source on that.

but it tastes nasty and you have to eat a lot more pot than you would have to smoke to get highi. Though, if you eat it the high is stronger or something like that.

I wouldn't eat a raw bud... it can be used to spice meat dishes, you can make tea with it, or you can put it in foods that mask the flavors like chocolate cakes or brownies. Some good indicas taste good just sauted or you can cook them in butter and save the butter for cooking.

It tastes like crap to eat raw and boil, not so much to cook. If you eat it, the high is not stronger, it's mellower and longer lasting.

http://www.opendoors.com.au/Marijuana/Marijuana.htm
[quote]psychological problems - Though marijuana is not necessarily a direct cause of mental disorders, there is considerable evidence to suggest that it can bring them to the surface.[/quote]
I've read it all over the place, I've also read it helps with them, who knows really. Personally, I went through a period of psychosis, due to pot smoking, and it's kept me off it since.

But in small doses it could be better than larger doses, like alcoholic some beverages.

Anything is bad if abused.


[quote]In the study, EPPIC followed the progress of 193 young people aged 15-29 years who presented to the service following a first-psychosis episode. The aim was to develop an appropriate intervention for cannabis treatment in people with psychosis as no tested therapy or pharmacological treatment exists to date.[/quote]
http://www.adf.org.au/article.asp?ContentID=2001_4_4
This is the site they get their sources from and the only test they ran was on people who already show signs of psychosis. So how do they prove that the marijuana had anything to do with it?

And from the site you listed:
[quote]physical dependence - This happens when the body gets used to functioning with the drug present, and happens only with extremely high daily doses. Mild withdrawal symptoms, such as sleeping difficulties, nervousness and quick temper, follow a stoppage in use.[/quote]
These aren't physical dependencies they go along with psychological. The only drugs that cause physical are opiates and amphetamines.

After stopping for a couple days several times in the summer I found it extremely hard to exert myself in the gym, but when going back on it I was fine. I had no reduced desire to work out while on or off. I also noticed this during the first few weeks of football, and how my body reacted in physically intensive situations. It's also harder to sleep after stopping, however this goes away after a couple days. I have no doubt whatsoever that there is a physical aspect to it.

Maybe we need a clean little guinea pig to start some tests on... Of course they couldn't've read any of this because then they may believe what this thread has influenced them to believe.

Uhm, it sounds like j0k3r is the guinea pig. He was on it, stopped, and is saying what happened to him, not what he heard from somewhere else or thinks is the truth.

Quite true.  Maybe we should get more people from different cliques, so as to have ppl that weight lift, do jack, computer hack0rz, have a normal lifestyle, & so on.  A wide variety of ppl & @ least 10 from each group that have no other health problems & have JUST started & smoke a controlled amout

I do jack shit most of the day. Waqtch my dvds whileplaying games and chatting online. Im not very active until the summer. I work in a stresful job. I smoke now and again but not regularley. :P

But you've been corrupted by our thread! :(

Hmm, there has to be some scientific way to go about this.  Oh well, that is why companies get paid to research stuff.

[quote author=CrAz3D (last name was too long) link=topic=9823.msg95624#msg95624 date=1106062261]
Hmm, there has to be some scientific way to go about this.  Oh well, that is why companies get paid to research stuff.
[/quote]

Nobody believes the research, everybody is far too confident in their own viewpoints to even listen to others.  Also, the researches tend to be biased one way or the other, so it's not very helpful to begin with.

Only places the test could be run the proper way are in countrys where marijuana is legal, right? But either way if you are an adult smoking weed should be your choice. Alcohol is a far worse drug and it's legal here.

[quote author=muert0 link=topic=9823.msg95662#msg95662 date=1106081208]
Only places the test could be run the proper way are in countrys where marijuana is legal, right? But either way if you are an adult smoking weed should be your choice. Alcohol is a far worse drug and it's legal here.
[/quote]

Perhaps we should make alcohol illegal? People are routinely murdered because of it, crimes are nearly always committed under the influence of it, it can be lethal by itself in large quantities....

They tried that already. The crime rose to a way higher scale just like with pot. If it was legal there would be a lot more money in the government to distribute to things like education.

[quote author=muert0 link=topic=9823.msg95668#msg95668 date=1106084553]
They tried that already. The crime rose to a way higher scale just like with pot. If it was legal there would be a lot more money in the government to distribute to things like education.
[/quote]

Pot was legalized in the early 1900's.

But if was legal then all the kids would be stoned and the money put in education would be for nothing.

It'd be dumb to legalize it for adolescents.

[quote author=muert0 link=topic=9823.msg95668#msg95668 date=1106084553]
They tried that already. The crime rose to a way higher scale just like with pot. If it was legal there would be a lot more money in the government to distribute to things like education.
[/quote]

Then that proves that people suck and don't want to be helped?

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg95686#msg95686 date=1106092066]
It'd be dumb to legalize it for adolescents.
[/quote]

It would make it easier to get, though.  I know very few people 15+ who haven't drank, and lots who are 15+ or 20+ who haven't tried pot.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95691#msg95691 date=1106092583]
It would make it easier to get, though. I know very few people 15+ who haven't drank, and lots who are 15+ or 20+ who haven't tried pot.
[/quote]
Because it's unavailable? Those people must live very priviledged and sheltered lives, I can't even count the number of places I could get it from.

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg95686#msg95686 date=1106092066]
It'd be dumb to legalize it for adolescents.
[/quote]
Adolescents would be able to get their hands on it either way, just like cigarrettes and alcohol.

[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg95706#msg95706 date=1106105536]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95691#msg95691 date=1106092583]
It would make it easier to get, though. I know very few people 15+ who haven't drank, and lots who are 15+ or 20+ who haven't tried pot.
[/quote]
Because it's unavailable? Those people must live very priviledged and sheltered lives, I can't even count the number of places I could get it from.
[/quote]

No, it's easy enough to get.  But I think that being illegal affects a lot of people.

Friends started dealing from about the age of 11. Somehow I took another root which was odd as I would be out with them every day. I sought of went to the computing side and they went to the junkie side.

[quote author=Meh - (S-1-0-0) link=topic=9823.msg95742#msg95742 date=1106150781]
Friends started dealing from about the age of 11. Somehow I took another root which was odd as I would be out with them every day. I sought of went to the computing side and they went to the junkie side.
[/quote]

route* :P

And good! That may be good or fun when you're young, but they'll never have a good future with that :-/

[quote author=Meh - (S-1-0-0) link=topic=9823.msg95742#msg95742 date=1106150781]
Friends started dealing from about the age of 11. Somehow I took another root which was odd as I would be out with them every day. I sought of went to the computing side and they went to the junkie side.
[/quote]Same here.  ALL my friends, except the 2 mormon ones who are clueless that all of this happens, drink, smoke cigarettes & pot.  Wow, I mean ALL of them...dude, I never really realized that...@least my closer friends are the ones that smoke, I guess not ALL of them smoke.

Wow, highschool is full of really corrupt people, I heard some of the vball ppl even do crack.

[quote author=Crazy mormon confused me link=topic=9823.msg95750#msg95750 date=1106158141]
Wow, highschool is full of really corrupt people, I heard some of the vball ppl even do crack.
[/quote]

The problem is....everything is getting worse.

It seems every year there's more younger kids that think their tough shit.  Younger kids drinking, smoking, doing drugs, having sex, etc.  And it seem like all these kids act like their older than they really are.  It's almost like an identity disorder, where they try to act double their age, but they really act 1/2 their age.  It shocked the hell out of me to hear a 6 yr old swearing at me.  Shit like that just didn't happen 15 years ago.

Someone needs to teach these kiddo's to cool it off.

Just for reference...I'm 21, been smoking pot and drinking (rare occurences) since I was about 15.  When I was 17 I started drinking a little more (with my parents even, but it's just a social thing).  I still smoke pot periodically, but only in the late spring/summer/early fall and not when I have to work/go to school.  I don't smoke cigarettes, although, I have a couple times when I was drunk.  These few occurences I can somewhat trace back to my exposure to second hand smoke (you can get addicted to that too, and I used to sometimes feel cravings for it, which is super-gross).

I don't really think pot in itself is addictive.  The people who are *addicted* to pot are just addicted to getting high, and really, any other drug could fill it's place.

As much as I love a nice cold beer on a hot summer day, I have to agree w/ Iago about making alcohol illegal.  From what I've seen, it's far more dangerous than pot.  When I drink I get more aggressive.  I refuse to drive, but some people are unable to make that type of rational decision.  When I'm stoned, I like to just sit around and chill to my favourite bands.  What's more dangerous?

But then, is that too extreme?  If alcohol is illegal, then maybe tobacco should be to.  I mean, hey lets smoke till we get cancer, and make others get it too because or 2nd hand smoke.  What about Caffiene?  Isn't that the single most addictive drug?  I know far more people that are addicted to caffiene than cigarettes or drugs.  Remember, one of the signs of an addiction is failing to recognize it.  How many people do you know that have to drink a pot of coffee everyday, or drink a bottle of pepsi, otherwise they won't function?  Far too many to count on me fingers and toes...that's for sure.

While we're slamming drugs, why not slam everything else?  Pollution, our air is very unhealthy.  The shit that they put in produce and meat to get higher yields.  The bullshit milk companies saying how milk is so good for you.  They couldn't be further from the truth.

So many err's in our ways...but where do you start to fix it all?  People are resistant to change, and most will do anything in their power to fight it...

I hope you guys had as much fun reading this as I did writing it   ;)

[quote author=Crazy mormon confused me link=topic=9823.msg95750#msg95750 date=1106158141]
Friends started dealing from about the age of 11. Somehow I took another root which was odd as I would be out with them every day. I sought of went to the computing side and they went to the junkie side.
except the 2 mormon ones who are clueless that all of this happens
[/quote]

I remember when I was clueless, back in the old days.  I rather miss that.

Now I find it funny when somebody told me, "My teacher said it smelled like pot.  How's HE know what THAT smells like?"  because it's so, like, natural that people do it.


But anyway, I think the problem is that people are going to keep doing stupid things and finding new ways to do stupid things, because people can't look after themselves.  So they make laws making stupid things illegal, but people don't follow the laws.  So what can you do? Make everything legal or make everything illegal -- in either case, people would just keep doing it.

In any case, moderation is the key to anything, but people suck at moderation and people suck at life.  They want to do stupid things. 

I really don't understand why people try things like Meth or Heroin, though.  So many people have such serious problems with them, and so many people die from them, yet people still start.  I just don't understand that.

Ohwell, the world sucks.  What can you do? :)

There was a kid outside my house the other day chasing an indian child yelling "Im gonna kill you, youblack bastard". I couldnt beleive it.

I enjoyed that krazy nuk, I find I share many of your views. And while iago has a more dictator out-of-your-reach viewpoint, I can't say that I totally disagree with him. I feel that everything should be legalised, and people use their own discretion and morals to do what they want, so long as it doesn't affect others. Freedom of choice, with harsher punishments for breaking laws. Eventually, the retards will weed themselves out, and society as a whole will grow better.

iago -- The problem isn't in trying, it's in lack of self control, it has nothing to do with drugs, everything to do with one's self. There is nothing wrong with trying things, you learn alot, and I feel that it can only make you a better person to experience things. Why will I try heroine eventually? Because people are addicted to it, because I might gain some insight on those who are addicted, because I can and I know I can control it. People who are addicted to drugs are addicted because of their personality.

Oh, but what if you can't controll the urge to have more heroin?  Odds are that there have been thousands of people that sad "I'll try it just this once" & they end up dead somewhere.  Why try it to begin with?  People die from it, they do stupid things because of it, why encourage that behavior just a little by trying it yourself?

Maybe he wants to feel what those people addicted to it feel, to experience new things. People that keep saying "theres no way to get off once you're addicted" just plain simple don't want to get off it. They made a choice to keep doing it.

Inorder to feel like the ppl that are addictted to it, you have to be addicted.  Why would you really want to 'feel addicted' to a drug that is harmful?

[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg95772#msg95772 date=1106172055]
I feel that everything should be legalised, and people use their own discretion and morals to do what they want, so long as it doesn't affect others. Freedom of choice, with harsher punishments for breaking laws. Eventually, the retards will weed themselves out, and society as a whole will grow better.
[/quote]

The problem is that they try to protect people from themselves, which you can't do.  Like if some 15 year old OD's and kills himself, they make a huge deal out of it, and create stricter laws which changes nothing. 

The problem might be that we value human life too much.  They should re-enact prohibition and poison bootlegged alcohol.  That would weed out all the people who don't follow the laws :)

[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg95772#msg95772 date=1106172055]
I enjoyed that krazy nuk, I find I share many of your views.
[/quote]
Thanks...I was bored, and that was a nice rant to pass time.

[quote]
And while iago has a more dictator out-of-your-reach viewpoint, I can't say that I totally disagree with him. I feel that everything should be legalised, and people use their own discretion and morals to do what they want, so long as it doesn't affect others. Freedom of choice, with harsher punishments for breaking laws. Eventually, the retards will weed themselves out, and society as a whole will grow better.
[/quote]
I'm not sure I follow you when you say "legalize everything".  Are you speaking purely of drugs?  Or absolutely everything?  The problem is you have to draw the line somewhere.  Mentioning "so long as it doesn't affect others" i presume is your line, but then, every action you make has an effect on many other people...positive and negative.  I say we should bring back Hammurabi's Code...that would be such a sweet way to carry out law enforcement.  And it would make people *think* before they do shit.  Or we can just put all the dumb fucks together on an island and have a new reality show called "Cannibal"

[quote]
iago -- The problem isn't in trying, it's in lack of self control, it has nothing to do with drugs, everything to do with one's self. There is nothing wrong with trying things, you learn alot, and I feel that it can only make you a better person to experience things. Why will I try heroine eventually? Because people are addicted to it, because I might gain some insight on those who are addicted, because I can and I know I can control it. People who are addicted to drugs are addicted because of their personality.
[/quote]
It's the same thing with pedophiles, necropheliacs (sp?), gamblers, etc.  Their not necessarily addicted to a drug.  But their psychological make-up dis-allows them from being able to make rational decisions.  This is also known as a disorder, so can you really blame someone for doing something because their sick?  I mean what if we brought back witch-hunting.  I know it's far-fetched, but it some ways, it's kind of the same thing.

By legalizing everything I meant drugs only. By not affecting someone, I mean violating their rights as humans in any way.

I see your points about mental disorders, but still stand by my statement that the retards will weed themselves out and society as a whole will be better.

Even then we wouldn't get rid of enough of the morons  :S  LOL
but i guess some is better than none

You should have to pass a competency test when you turn 18...if you're not competent you're not an American & you can go to France.

[quote author=Crazy mormon confused me link=topic=9823.msg95854#msg95854 date=1106191990]
You should have to pass a competency test when you turn 18...if you're not competent you're not an American & you can go to France.
[/quote]
Or Canada :\

France would be #1, then Canada.  Canadians aren't AS pointless as French people.

bah...we'll just dump all the morons into the united states..that's where they'll fit in the most.  :P

Canadians are competent, eh!

[quote author=KrAzY_NuK link=topic=9823.msg95865#msg95865 date=1106198599]
bah...we'll just dump all the morons into the united states..that's where they'll fit in the most. :P

Canadians are competent, eh!
[/quote]

All the morons are moving to Canada. Don't send them back!

I don't understand why "they" don't just kill the morons and harvest their organs to save the lives of good people.  Instead, in Canada, we just pity them, and in the US you make them president.

BURN!

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95880#msg95880 date=1106233719]
I don't understand why "they" don't just kill the morons and harvest their organs to save the lives of good people.  Instead, in Canada, we just pity them, and in the US you make them president.

BURN!
[/quote]

I'm gonna sit on that one for a while and let it sizzle
LOL

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95880#msg95880 date=1106233719]
I don't understand why "they" don't just kill the morons and harvest their organs to save the lives of good people. Instead, in Canada, we just pity them, and in the US you make them president.

BURN!
[/quote]

You pity morons but honor American draft dodgers.

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg95885#msg95885 date=1106243867]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95880#msg95880 date=1106233719]
I don't understand why "they" don't just kill the morons and harvest their organs to save the lives of good people. Instead, in Canada, we just pity them, and in the US you make them president.

BURN!
[/quote]

You pity morons but honor American draft dodgers.
[/quote]

Draft Dodgers? Or do you mean people being forced to fight in a war they don't believe in or support?

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95889#msg95889 date=1106244875]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg95885#msg95885 date=1106243867]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95880#msg95880 date=1106233719]
I don't understand why "they" don't just kill the morons and harvest their organs to save the lives of good people. Instead, in Canada, we just pity them, and in the US you make them president.

BURN!
[/quote]

You pity morons but honor American draft dodgers.
[/quote]

Draft Dodgers? Or do you mean people being forced to fight in a war they don't believe in or support?
[/quote]

It doesn't matter if they support the war or not, if you're drafted you're supposed to go to war, not to Canada. Unless of course we're invading Canada (but I'm pretty sure we wouldn't need drafted men to take you guys). Obviously I'm referring to Vietnam draft dodgers as we don't have a draft now.

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg95890#msg95890 date=1106246143]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95889#msg95889 date=1106244875]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg95885#msg95885 date=1106243867]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95880#msg95880 date=1106233719]
I don't understand why "they" don't just kill the morons and harvest their organs to save the lives of good people. Instead, in Canada, we just pity them, and in the US you make them president.

BURN!
[/quote]

You pity morons but honor American draft dodgers.
[/quote]

Draft Dodgers? Or do you mean people being forced to fight in a war they don't believe in or support?
[/quote]

It doesn't matter if they support the war or not, if you're drafted you're supposed to go to war, not to Canada. Unless of course we're invading Canada (but I'm pretty sure we wouldn't need drafted men to take you guys). Obviously I'm referring to Vietnam draft dodgers as we don't have a draft now.
[/quote]

So you're supposed to go off and murder people who you don't think deserve it? That's a little much to do for your country, if you ask me.  I don't like war to begin with, and like to think that there's nearly always a better way to deal with problems, but forcing people who don't want to fight to go to war is just horrible.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95910#msg95910 date=1106256410]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg95890#msg95890 date=1106246143]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95889#msg95889 date=1106244875]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg95885#msg95885 date=1106243867]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95880#msg95880 date=1106233719]
I don't understand why "they" don't just kill the morons and harvest their organs to save the lives of good people. Instead, in Canada, we just pity them, and in the US you make them president.

BURN!
[/quote]

You pity morons but honor American draft dodgers.
[/quote]

Draft Dodgers? Or do you mean people being forced to fight in a war they don't believe in or support?
[/quote]

It doesn't matter if they support the war or not, if you're drafted you're supposed to go to war, not to Canada. Unless of course we're invading Canada (but I'm pretty sure we wouldn't need drafted men to take you guys). Obviously I'm referring to Vietnam draft dodgers as we don't have a draft now.
[/quote]

So you're supposed to go off and murder people who you don't think deserve it? That's a little much to do for your country, if you ask me. I don't like war to begin with, and like to think that there's nearly always a better way to deal with problems, but forcing people who don't want to fight to go to war is just horrible.
[/quote]

You shouldn't put yourself before your state, imho.

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg95912#msg95912 date=1106257038]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95910#msg95910 date=1106256410]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg95890#msg95890 date=1106246143]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95889#msg95889 date=1106244875]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg95885#msg95885 date=1106243867]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95880#msg95880 date=1106233719]
I don't understand why "they" don't just kill the morons and harvest their organs to save the lives of good people. Instead, in Canada, we just pity them, and in the US you make them president.

BURN!
[/quote]

You pity morons but honor American draft dodgers.
[/quote]

Draft Dodgers? Or do you mean people being forced to fight in a war they don't believe in or support?
[/quote]

It doesn't matter if they support the war or not, if you're drafted you're supposed to go to war, not to Canada. Unless of course we're invading Canada (but I'm pretty sure we wouldn't need drafted men to take you guys). Obviously I'm referring to Vietnam draft dodgers as we don't have a draft now.
[/quote]

So you're supposed to go off and murder people who you don't think deserve it? That's a little much to do for your country, if you ask me. I don't like war to begin with, and like to think that there's nearly always a better way to deal with problems, but forcing people who don't want to fight to go to war is just horrible.
[/quote]

You shouldn't put yourself before your state, imho.
[/quote]
If you disagree with your country to leave and go to canada, I don't think you give much of a shit about your country

I respect the patriotism americans have, but I think it's forced down the throat of too many people. You care for your country, I'm sure others do too, forcing patriotism isn't right.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95889#msg95889 date=1106244875]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg95885#msg95885 date=1106243867]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95880#msg95880 date=1106233719]
I don't understand why "they" don't just kill the morons and harvest their organs to save the lives of good people. Instead, in Canada, we just pity them, and in the US you make them president.

BURN!
[/quote]

You pity morons but honor American draft dodgers.
[/quote]

Draft Dodgers? Or do you mean people being forced to fight in a war they don't believe in or support?
[/quote]

I think he means crazed hippies that started what  the original post of this thread was about stopping...however they started using things other than cigarettes.

There were legit ways to not be drafted back in the Vietnam war.  & now there is NO reason to not want to fight, these ppl joinned voluntarily.

No, what I was referring to is this article which I posted back in September. In case you guys thought I was saying Canada was honoring cowards refusing to fight in todays war. It'd be kind of hard, since all those fighting are volunteers.

I am a crazed hippie? Cool!

Now, things are great.  If Americans choose to, they can fight in the war.  Whether or not the war should have ever happened is a great topic for a different thread :)

But yeah, I have no problem with the American army now, but I do have a problem with drafts.  I think my country is great and all, I might even be willing to die for it, should it be threatened, but I wouldn't kill for it.  I wouldn't kill for anything.

Why did you start talking about Draft Dodgers, anyway?

You MIGHT be willing to die for your country?!...some patiotism you have there, just like Iago to turn on someone.

I wouldn't die for my country, I'd be just as happy living in the USA or Europe. To me, countries are just rainbow coloured pictures on a map.

heh, nice.  Where are you from?

Think of the reasons the U.S. has fought in its last wars.
Veitnam: Contain communism and show that the democratic party was not "soft" on communism.
Iraq: Get rid of the "weapons of mass destruction", and the U.S. public wanted to go out and get someone for the events of 9/11/01.

It seems to me like the U.S. is trying to police the world.

And the collition of the willing? Mostly third world countries with little or no standing army. Morocco, for instance, has no standing army but offered to send several thousand trained monkeys to find land mines.

I personally think although the U.S. IS doing good things for the world, there are problems IN the U.S. that should be taken care of first. Like the fact that you are more likely to be murderd in Washington D.C.  than killed in Iraq. How many soldiers have we lost? 2000 or something like that? How many Iraqi civilians have died at the hand of the U.S. army?

I am not quote "a crazed hippie". But I think nothing short of a decleration of war by another country, or an attack on U.S. soil,  would warrent going to war with another country.

I would be willing to fight in a war IF I belived it was for a good cause. But I do not belive policing the world, no matter how virtous the intent, is not something any country should do.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg95967#msg95967 date=1106275921]
Now, things are great.  If Americans choose to, they can fight in the war.  Whether or not the war should have ever happened is a great topic for a different thread :)[/quote]

Don't you think that the concept of "war" and "fighting for your country" are still glorified to the extent that the people they are enlisting don't know what their getting themselves into?

i personally think that invading any country is retarded.  We're supposed to be advancing civilization, not knocking their asses back to the stone age.

I have so much to say to those last two posts, mostly the word 'moron' or something like it, but we're getting really off topic. This should go in stupid arguments.

LOL....

I could argue different viewpoints of this for hours on end...I hope I don't start    :S

And I didn't use the word "moron" or anything like it in my last post    :P

Yeah, it's up to the Americans to police the world, because who else would?  I mean, obviously the Americans know what's best, right? It's not like there's crime or poverty in the US, so clearly they know best.  I'm glad that one country takes it upon itself to solve all the world's problems.  It's not like other countries can look after themselves or anything. 

LOL @ Iago!

It reminds me of those canvassers that came door to door last year askign for money for relief in Iraq or something.  I'm not the type that'll give money to any door to door canvasser.  I just dont' trust people....But these people were talking like their cause was the only cause in the world.  When I told them there was crime, and guns, and poverty in Canada and the US they denied it.

And it's funny that all of a sudden the US cares about Iraq, but their not bombing the hell out of Korea.

And so many people overlook the fact that there are many war torn countries with children being treated as slaves, and being raped, and killed every day.  Those type of stories would make the US (and the rest of the "worldly" people) look bad.  It's like if you ignore it, then it just doesn't exist.

but seriously, it's enough flogging the US.  We do it because it's so easy.  I'm sure everyone has approx. the same amount of fuck-ups.  It's just the US like like the loud noisy kid that always has to tell everyone what he's doing (like a top-secret nuclear investigation in some far-off country).  In reality, we're all to blame for our idoicy (and somewhat barbaric nature).

Maybe we don't go into N Korea because there might be other consequences other than us destroying an evil government.  Maybe China will step in like last time to help them out.  Maybe N Korea DOES have nuclear weapons.

[quote author=Crazy mormon confused me link=topic=9823.msg96017#msg96017 date=1106335061]
Maybe we don't go into N Korea because there might be other consequences other than us destroying an evil government.  Maybe China will step in like last time to help them out.  Maybe N Korea DOES have nuclear weapons.
[/quote]

It was thought that Iraq had WMDs too but that didn't stop us going in there.

Saddam Hussein didn't threaten to aniliate a large ally of ours, where lots of goods are manufactured, we like to call this country Japan.

[quote] Yeah, it's up to the Americans to police the world, because who else would? [/quote]

Definately not Canada.

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg96053#msg96053 date=1106350872]
Definately not Canada.
[/quote]

Nope, we have "respect" for other countries.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg96063#msg96063 date=1106354904]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg96053#msg96053 date=1106350872]
Definately not Canada.
[/quote]

Nope, we have "respect" for other countries.
[/quote]

We don't respect terrorists, sorry.

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg96074#msg96074 date=1106358537]
We don't respect terrorists, sorry.
[/quote]
We don't label ethnic groups, sorry.

[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg96085#msg96085 date=1106361352]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg96074#msg96074 date=1106358537]
We don't respect terrorists, sorry.
[/quote]
We don't label ethnic groups, sorry.
[/quote]

Lies. I've seen Canadians refer to blacks as 'niggers' isn't that a form of labeling?

But, I guess I know what you meant, you're saying I think that all Muslims are terrorists. Wrong! It's a peaceful religion, and true Muslims have even said that Osama and his cronies aren't true Muslims and that they're a disgrace to the religion. By labeling countries as terrorist countries, I'm referring to those that cooperate with them, such as pre-war Iraq. America doesn't negotiate with terrorists, and neither should any other country.

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg96074#msg96074 date=1106358537]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg96063#msg96063 date=1106354904]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg96053#msg96053 date=1106350872]
Definately not Canada.
[/quote]

Nope, we have "respect" for other countries.
[/quote]

We don't respect terrorists, sorry.
[/quote]

Wait, since when was Iraq "terrorists"?

It's funny how people are always kept afraid of some ethnic group, be it blacks, communists, terrorists, etc.  Having a good common fear of something is a great way to keep people from noticing internal problems!

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg96122#msg96122 date=1106411040]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg96074#msg96074 date=1106358537]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg96063#msg96063 date=1106354904]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg96053#msg96053 date=1106350872]
Definately not Canada.
[/quote]

Nope, we have "respect" for other countries.
[/quote]

We don't respect terrorists, sorry.
[/quote]

Wait, since when was Iraq "terrorists"?

It's funny how people are always kept afraid of some ethnic group, be it blacks, communists, terrorists, etc. Having a good common fear of something is a great way to keep people from noticing internal problems!
[/quote]

The definition of terrorist:

[quote] One who utilizes the systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve political objectives, while disguised as a civilian non-combatant. The use of a civilian disguise while on operations exempts the perpetrator from protection under the Geneva Conventions, and consequently if captured they are liable for prosecution as common criminals. [/quote]

Do I need to spoon feed you the rest, or can you kinda make the connection now?

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg96110#msg96110 date=1106375077]
Lies. I've seen Canadians refer to blacks as 'niggers' isn't that a form of labeling?
[/quote]
And you've never heard that in America?

Technically, I don't think communists are an ethic group.

[quote author=Falcon[anti-yL] link=topic=9823.msg96140#msg96140 date=1106414166]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg96110#msg96110 date=1106375077]
Lies. I've seen Canadians refer to blacks as 'niggers' isn't that a form of labeling?
[/quote]
And you've never heard that in America?
[/quote]
Not recently, unless you take into account the black ppl degrading themselves.

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg96126#msg96126 date=1106411276]
One who utilizes the systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve political objectives[/quote]

Hmm, that sounds exactly like another country I know, one that lives about an hour south of me :P

But TECHNICALLY we don't qualify to be terrorists because we're not in civilian clothes nor are we PURPOSELY using terror as a tatic.

[quote author=Crazy mormon confused me link=topic=9823.msg96145#msg96145 date=1106414522]
But TECHNICALLY we don't qualify to be terrorists because we're not in civilian clothes nor are we PURPOSELY using terror as a tatic.
[/quote]

America TOTALLY uses terror as a tactic.  And I don't think Bush is dressed up as a combatant while threatening other countries, but I realize that's taking the definition sideways.

And yeah, "ethnic group" was the wrong word, I meant "group of similar people" but that sounds lame.

We don't use terror as a tatic, it is a result of us liberating a country & terrorizing the Iraqi insurgents.

[quote author=Falcon[anti-yL] link=topic=9823.msg96140#msg96140 date=1106414166]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg96110#msg96110 date=1106375077]
Lies. I've seen Canadians refer to blacks as 'niggers' isn't that a form of labeling?
[/quote]
And you've never heard that in America?
[/quote]

Of course I have, but, uh, I never said that we didn't group ethnic people by certain names; but it was said that it doesn't go on in Canada.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg96143#msg96143 date=1106414353]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg96126#msg96126 date=1106411276]
One who utilizes the systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve political objectives[/quote]

Hmm, that sounds exactly like another country I know, one that lives about an hour south of me :P
[/quote]

I wasn't aware that countries 'live', but anyway, our political objective is to restore peace and order through the world. Just because you live in Canada, and have your mother country and the US to shelter you from what really goes on, doesn't mean these rogue nations do.

[quote]America TOTALLY uses terror as a tactic.[/quote]

um...how? The normal terrorists tend to attack people just because they're of a certain nationality, religion, etc. Our troops aren't even allowed to fire unless they've got a clear shot at an armed combatant.

Again, I request this topic be split, it's totally the wrong forum/thread!

Actually, I don't think that the Mid East countried COULD have a mother country, since humans basically came from that area, no?  Wouldn't it be more like the Mid east is the old senile grandparents that forget what they're fighting about & keep fighting anyway & the kids have to calm them down?

A lot of them were controlled by the United Kingdom. Who cares where we came from - that's not relevant in this discussion, Western European countries had stronger armies back when the world was developing and during their religious wars they nearly anniliated the muslims. And yea, those muslims were in the middle east.

That was in the AD years though, you're forgetting about Babylon & such, no?

The Ottoman empire was pretty powerful back then. But they're Islam.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg96148#msg96148 date=1106414991]
[quote author=Crazy mormon confused me link=topic=9823.msg96145#msg96145 date=1106414522]
But TECHNICALLY we don't qualify to be terrorists because we're not in civilian clothes nor are we PURPOSELY using terror as a tatic.
[/quote]

America TOTALLY uses terror as a tactic.  And I don't think Bush is dressed up as a combatant while threatening other countries, but I realize that's taking the definition sideways.
[/quote]

Not only does America use terror as a political tactic, but so does Canada, and many other countries throughout the world.

Another definition of Terrorism (from dictionary.com)
[quote]
the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimindation or coercion or instilling fear
[/quote]

And don't tell me that Bush didn't use the threat of violence ( 9/11 attacks ) to get re-elected.  He keeps referring to the fact that the USA is not safe until his terrorist crusade is complete.  He also tried to make it look like Kerry would not go after terrorists if he was elected.

Think about it.  Scaring the shit out of someone (and making them think that you're their one and only saviour) definately helps to get the votes.  Terrorism isn't just "blowing shit up".

Moral of the story: Don't play with big words, because they bite back  :(

The US WON'T be fafe until all the terrorists are gone...how would we be safe if the terrorists are still there!?

Kerry was too damn confusing about what he wanted, he's probably the one that made everyone think that he wouldn't go after terrorists.  He never stayed constant on his position about Iraq, whether or not to stay or if it was the right decision to begin with.

Bush didn't "scare the shot out anyone" & make them vote for him, government agencies saw a threat & are learning from their pre-9/11 mistakes & are warning people.

I didn't play with big words...
It started here:
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg96074#msg96074 date=1106358537]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg96063#msg96063 date=1106354904]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg96053#msg96053 date=1106350872]
Definately not Canada.
[/quote]

Nope, we have "respect" for other countries.
[/quote]
We don't respect terrorists, sorry.
[/quote]

& it became a debate whether or not the USA has a terroristic government.

Haha, Mr. Nuk actually made a lot of sense there, I never really thought about it that way.  Bush DID use the 9/11 attacks and threats of more attacks to help himself get re-elected.  You can't deny that he used the fear of terrorism to help him campaign which is, by definition, terrorism.  Hah.

And yeah, fear is a very common political tactic.  I'd call "Do things our way or we'll blow you up" a way of causing terror, no different from running a plane into a building.  The difference is, the US has power to blow stuff up, whereas the "terrorists" are fairly powerless, and are forced to resort to sneak attacks.  How else do you fight the US?  Because the US has the most power doesn't make all of its decisions right, it just makes it more difficult to fight it.

I DO recall both candidates saying that they will continue to keep fighting terroism, Kerry however changed his mind OFTEN so you could argue either sidee for him.  I also remember seeing an interview with Kerry where he was asked if he thought that the US would ever be as safe as it was however many years ago, he said no. 

Same thing as Bush did, they BOTH knew that terrorists are a threat & stated that something needed to be done, Kerry is the only one that couldn't make up his mind on WHAT to do though, Bush took action.

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg96458#msg96458 date=1106591753]
The US WON'T be fafe until all the terrorists are gone...how would we be safe if the terrorists are still there!?
[/quote]

hrrrmmmm...where's Noam Chomsky when you need him...
The reality is, I don't think "all the terrorists" will ever be gone.  In order to eliminate terrorism, you would have to first eliminate violence (and that's starting to sound like a chicken-egg relation).
Now, lets look at the churches (because their so much fun...:D).  Religion is another perfect example of terrorism.  "If you don't believe in god you will go to hell".  Well what happens in "Hell"?  As far as I've been told hell is a bad place where you will suffer for the rest of time.  I'm afraid of suffering, so that means I should believe in god, and i'll be safe?  Well, I'm atheist, so I don't buy into that kinda stuff, but the idea of having to believe in something otherwise you suffer IS a form of terrorism.  Not to mention it's also a shot against your freedom of speech and expression (but that belongs in a seperate thread).

[quote]
Kerry was too damn confusing about what he wanted, he's probably the one that made everyone think that he wouldn't go after terrorists.  He never stayed constant on his position about Iraq, whether or not to stay or if it was the right decision to begin with.
[/quote]
And Bush wasn't confusing at all?

[quote]
Bush didn't "scare the shot out anyone" & make them vote for him, government agencies saw a threat & are learning from their pre-9/11 mistakes & are warning people.
[/quote]
Are you saying that Bush didn't scare anyone?  Are you afraid of terrorists attacking the USA?  Yeah, I thought so.  Bush used that idea to instill the notion that the USA isn't safe.  Then he offered himself as a saviour by declaring a war on terrorism.  Has the USA been attacked since?  (BTW, I have this really cool keyboard that keeps bears and elephants away.  Asking $500 firm....it's the same logic).

I think you need to face this issue with a little more of an open mind.  Your defending the USA, yet I'm not attacking it.  I merely stated a point "People throughout the world use Terror as a politcal tactic".  I even outrightly stated my own country of residence to eliminate any idea that I was making an attack on one nation.  Then I used the example of the US election because just about everybody knows about it, and that's the road this thread has been travelling down.

[quote]
I didn't play with big words...
[/quote]
Sorry....That was meant to be a joke to lighten the topic a little bit.

[quote author=KrAzY_NuK link=topic=9823.msg96467#msg96467 date=1106594289]
(but that belongs in a seperate thread).
[/quote]

Yes, because this entire political discussion belongs in this thread so perfectly! :-P

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg96482#msg96482 date=1106598909]
[quote author=KrAzY_NuK link=topic=9823.msg96467#msg96467 date=1106594289]
(but that belongs in a seperate thread).
[/quote]

Yes, because this entire political discussion belongs in this thread so perfectly! :-P
[/quote]Word, I'll quit unless this part gets moved over.

Semi-on topic, I think I know why dude QUIT dating girls & either become gay or just sit alone......it goes hand in hand w/women being confusing & impossible to understand.

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg96496#msg96496 date=1106603466]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg96482#msg96482 date=1106598909]
[quote author=KrAzY_NuK link=topic=9823.msg96467#msg96467 date=1106594289]
(but that belongs in a seperate thread).
[/quote]Word, I'll quit unless this part gets moved over.

Semi-on topic, I think I know why dude QUIT dating girls & either become gay or just sit alone......it goes hand in hand w/women being confusing & impossible to understand.

Yes, because this entire political discussion belongs in this thread so perfectly! :-P
[/quote]
[/quote]

now i'm confused  :S

Yeah, I didn't scroll down far enough when posting & I ended up posting before the end quote thing.....my pda makes stuff small & hard to read, my bad

Back on topic, I am trying to quit again. I have not a cig for 10 hours.

Wait a minute, you un- quit?!...how could you do that to me?

Yes, I un-quit a while back. But now I am quitting again.

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg96512#msg96512 date=1106609083]
...how could you do that to me?
[/quote]

You're the one that molested me.

I forgot about that, sorry!

Better be....

I'm back on the reefer too :-\ Exams and family have got me stretched thin.

[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg96545#msg96545 date=1106625559]
I'm back on the reefer too :-\ Exams and family have got me stretched thin.
[/quote]
*laughs*

I have to put up with exams and family, and I'm not smoking weed. Why are you dropping yourself that low as to pick up an old habit again, eh?

Last....spring? semester I had AP Calc test, AP History test, AP music theory class, car accident & sat there jsut enjoying being not dead....I thought I was doing pretty good.

[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg96545#msg96545 date=1106625559]
I'm back on the reefer too :-\ Exams and family have got me stretched thin.
[/quote]

People have gone through worst without resorting to drugs. *weak*

Har, yes, I'm weak. Actually, I took yesterday off from going to the gym and was feeling pretty sick, it does have it's purposes (and serves them quite well).

[quote author=Newby link=topic=9823.msg96546#msg96546 date=1106626544]
I have to put up with exams and family, and I'm not smoking weed. Why are you dropping yourself that low as to pick up an old habit again, eh?
[/quote]
We're not all in the same situation :) Picking up an old habbit again? Hardly, it's a quick, temporary, easy solution, and I'm all out now :P

My smoke log:

23rd: 18 smokes
24th: 2 smokes (this is the day I started trying to quit)
25th: 1 smoke

Future smoke plans:

26th: 1 (But hopefully none)
27th: NONE --- OR I WILL TAKE MY LIFE (and everyone elses')

23rd: 18?!?!  that is like 1.5 packs!..isn't it?

Were you pretending to be a train that day?

18 is nothing I nopeople who are smoking around 3 packs aday.

up here in canada, our packs are 25.  I knew of quite a few people that smoked at least a pack a day.  My uncle used to smoke up to 3 some days...but then he quit!  :D

OMG!...aren't these things like $5 a pack or so after taxes?

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg96660#msg96660 date=1106699738]
OMG!...aren't these things like $5 a pack or so after taxes?
[/quote]

$5? Are you kidding?  It's about $11/pack here.

OMG!....3 packs a day = what?...$33 Canadian monies...w/e that = in American I'm not sure, but OMG!.

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg96698#msg96698 date=1106710814]
OMG!....3 packs a day = what?...$33 Canadian monies...w/e that = in American I'm not sure, but OMG!.
[/quote]

Somewhere around usd$25.

$25 a day, that is just nuts

A pack of camel lights in Wisconsin is $3.14 with taxes.

[quote author=Meh - (S-1-0-0) link=topic=9823.msg96609#msg96609 date=1106688432]
18 is nothing I nopeople who are smoking around 3 packs aday.
[/quote]

I do not happen to be one of those people.  :P Every time I tell someone how many cigs I smoke a day they tell me "Oh, thats nothing! I know people who smoke X packs a day!" I really do not care how many cigs other people smoke.

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg96728#msg96728 date=1106745316]
A pack of camel lights in Wisconsin is $3.14 with taxes.

[quote author=Meh - (S-1-0-0) link=topic=9823.msg96609#msg96609 date=1106688432]
18 is nothing I nopeople who are smoking around 3 packs aday.
[/quote]

I do not happen to be one of those people.  :P Every time I tell someone how many cigs I smoke a day they tell me "Oh, thats nothing! I know people who smoke X packs a day!" I really do not care how many cigs other people smoke.
[/quote]

That's cool, cuz why should you.

BTW.. Congrats on the effort.  I've seen how hard it is to quit when my ex-gf tried to quit like 5 or 6 times.  But she's an inconsiderate depressive bitch w/ major baggage (most of which she doesn't know she has).

[quote author=KrAzY_NuK link=topic=9823.msg96737#msg96737 date=1106749058]
BTW.. Congrats on the effort.  I've seen how hard it is to quit when my ex-gf tried to quit like 5 or 6 times.  But she's an inconsiderate depressive bitch w/ major baggage (most of which she doesn't know she has).
[/quote]

I'm sure she thinks the same of you. Or she really is an inconsiderate depressive bitch with major baggage...?

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg96850#msg96850 date=1106792838]
[quote author=KrAzY_NuK link=topic=9823.msg96737#msg96737 date=1106749058]
BTW.. Congrats on the effort.  I've seen how hard it is to quit when my ex-gf tried to quit like 5 or 6 times.  But she's an inconsiderate depressive bitch w/ major baggage (most of which she doesn't know she has).
[/quote]

I'm sure she thinks the same of you. Or she really is an inconsiderate depressive bitch with major baggage...?
[/quote]

Well, she has to have issues in the first place if she's dating him....

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg96870#msg96870 date=1106797931]
[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg96850#msg96850 date=1106792838]
[quote author=KrAzY_NuK link=topic=9823.msg96737#msg96737 date=1106749058]
BTW.. Congrats on the effort.  I've seen how hard it is to quit when my ex-gf tried to quit like 5 or 6 times.  But she's an inconsiderate depressive bitch w/ major baggage (most of which she doesn't know she has).
[/quote]

I'm sure she thinks the same of you. Or she really is an inconsiderate depressive bitch with major baggage...?
[/quote]

Well, she has to have issues in the first place if she's dating him....
[/quote]
Zing.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg96870#msg96870 date=1106797931]
[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg96850#msg96850 date=1106792838]
[quote author=KrAzY_NuK link=topic=9823.msg96737#msg96737 date=1106749058]
BTW.. Congrats on the effort.  I've seen how hard it is to quit when my ex-gf tried to quit like 5 or 6 times.  But she's an inconsiderate depressive bitch w/ major baggage (most of which she doesn't know she has).
[/quote]

I'm sure she thinks the same of you. Or she really is an inconsiderate depressive bitch with major baggage...?
[/quote]

Well, she has to have issues in the first place if she's dating him....
[/quote]

Ouch...
Reasons we're not going out anymore:
  1. I didn't want to move out w/ her while i was living at home for free and had other major bills to pay (owe my parents like $4k, plus i owed a bunch on my car too).
  2. She cheated on me w/ a guy that she met on the bus 5 days beforehand.  And then kept seeing him behind my back.

Hence, I have every right to call her an inconsiderate bitch, and a whore, and whatever else i so choose.
Depressive because depression runs in her family, and she was always bitching about how depressed she was about everything.  Nothing anyone would do could make her smile (except for me...).
Baggage, because she's always depressed, and carries a lot of emotional baggage.....I hope she tries to kill herself!

And Ron...shut up  :P ....When have you ever been with a girl? (And sitting outside the junior high watching them get off of school doesn't count)

[quote author=KrAzY_NuK link=topic=9823.msg96918#msg96918 date=1106843483]
  2. She cheated on me w/ a guy that she met on the bus 5 days beforehand.  And then kept seeing him behind my back.
[/quote]

Woah, you CAN pick up chicks on the bus? I always thought it was the wrong kind of atmosphere, and people were in the wrong state of mind.  Hmm!

[quote]
And Ron...shut up  :P ....When have you ever been with a girl? (And sitting outside the junior high watching them get off of school doesn't count)
[/quote]

It's like you know me :(

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg96929#msg96929 date=1106846162]
[quote author=KrAzY_NuK link=topic=9823.msg96918#msg96918 date=1106843483]
  2. She cheated on me w/ a guy that she met on the bus 5 days beforehand.  And then kept seeing him behind my back.
[/quote]
[/quote]

Apparently so...LOL...It's never worked for me though

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg96929#msg96929 date=1106846162]
Woah, you CAN pick up chicks on the bus? I always thought it was the wrong kind of atmosphere, and people were in the wrong state of mind.  Hmm!

[quote]
And Ron...shut up  :P ....When have you ever been with a girl? (And sitting outside the junior high watching them get off of school doesn't count)
[/quote]

It's like you know me :(
[/quote]

Isn't it crazy!?

So you've tried this out Kanuck?...picking up girls on the bus

The girls on the bus are hos, hos, hos...

Shit, I don't remember that part of the song...

I wish I would've though ;)

Also, from Experience, band trips can get people in the mood to do some stuff that doesn't normally happen during a school activity.
NOTE: I'm reffering to mid school-high school trips involving totally sober people.

A group of 20 or more high school students, all totally sober??? That is hard to believe.

MID-high school... ranging from 7th to 12th grade generally.  It is on a bus with chaperones, I think it'd be WAY hard to get even the slightest bit buzzed on a bus with @ least 3 chaperones.

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg96952#msg96952 date=1106857389]
So you've tried this out Kanuck?...picking up girls on the bus
[/quote]

No..i haven't...seriously!
I just pick up chicks off the net

[quote author=KrAzY_NuK link=topic=9823.msg97092#msg97092 date=1106896167]
[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg96952#msg96952 date=1106857389]
So you've tried this out Kanuck?...picking up girls on the bus
[/quote]

No..i haven't...seriously!
I just pick up chicks off the net
[/quote]
Off the netbus?

Harr. You hack little girls' computers and hook up with them from there!

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg97025#msg97025 date=1106875507]
MID-high school... ranging from 7th to 12th grade generally. It is on a bus with chaperones, I think it'd be WAY hard to get even the slightest bit buzzed on a bus with @ least 3 chaperones.
[/quote]
Maybe to smoke pot or drink, you'd be able to get away with almost anything else.

I imagine it would be pretty damn easy to get drunk on a bus, even with chaperones on the bus.

Same here...bottle of pepsi, 1/2 filled w/ rum or rye...no problemo!
Some gum to mask the smell..and everybody's laughin!

Or, people could stop being so damn stupid with alcohol? That would be pretty cool. Then I would not get calls from my friends at two in the morning telling me that they need a ride home, and they are 30 minutes away from my house....

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg97143#msg97143 date=1106945669]
Or, people could stop being so damn stupid with alcohol? That would be pretty cool. Then I would not get calls from my friends at two in the morning telling me that they need a ride home, and they are 30 minutes away from my house....
[/quote]

It's much better that they're asking for a ride than driving themselves, at least.  I don't mind picking up friends.

Yea I wouldn't mind giving a drunk friend whos responsible enough to call me for a ride, its better than seeing them get in trouble or getting hurt.

For sure!
Lol..plus i can always call my parents

but drinking is so over-rated..

[quote author=KrAzY_NuK link=topic=9823.msg97237#msg97237 date=1106984834]
but drinking is so over-rated..
[/quote]

Haha, I agree.  Last time I drank was May.  The time before that, I don't even remember. 

lol...I only drink socially.
Binging is stupid...

I had 2 beer last night
and i'm currently havign a rum and coke

I've only drank once my whole life, well more than 1 beer at a time.

Has anyone noticed this thread will not stay on topic for more than 4 or 5 posts?

But anyway I have not had a smoke for 1 1/2 days now.

One more post and I have 0x80 posts!!!

We can't all post about your smoking every time.  But shh, it's a good topic :)

And good job, btw

I must admit how I enjoy watching the topic change though.

and you are how old?

i'm 21, so i've been "legal" to drink for 3 years...
not like it really makes a difference anyways

[quote author=KrAzY_NuK link=topic=9823.msg97395#msg97395 date=1107078604]
and you are how old?

i'm 21, so i've been "legal" to drink for 3 years...
not like it really makes a difference anyways
[/quote]
Me? 17.

I'm going on 6 days without pot, easy stuff. I find that if you hit the 3 day mark the desire goes away.

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg97389#msg97389 date=1107072740]
Has anyone noticed this thread will not stay on topic for more than 4 or 5 posts?

But anyway I have not had a smoke for 1 1/2 days now.

One more post and I have 0x80 posts!!!
[/quote]All you have to do is keep on unquitting then quitting...then we'll be able to talk about your quitting.

So far I have started, quit, unquit, ununquit, unununquit, ununununquit, and now unununununquit.

And I named ununundium.

You've unquit 3 times?... maybe?

This thread did not start with my first attempt...

Ooops... I also [s]ununununununun[/s]quit.

The problem is, sometimes I **forget** that I've quit, wonder where my smokes are, then bum one off someone.

Edit: The p2p craze, eXeem. Discuss.

There's already a topic (or two) on eXeem.

Fine.

Anime is cool. Discuss.

Anime sucks.

How's the non-smoking?

Anime is a bunch of horny cartoon characters with jacked up features...how can that be cool?

While talking to a friend(BIG pot head) I asked "Why was cannabis banned to begin with?" Just curioues as to if anybody knows. I dont but will search google. It must have offended someone high up.

I think I remember reading somewhere that mexicans brought it to the states because it helped them deal with the stress of their jobs, and americans thought it made you crazy, so they banned it.

It was to get Mexican immigrants (spelling?) out of Texas and New Mexico in the early 1900's.

And anime is the best. Well, Family Guy beats the shit out of everything animated so... yeah.

I don't like Anigay, or Anime for that matter.

Anime sucks

STFU I love anime. Excel Saga, Love Hina, Evangelion, I LOVE IT!

[code]
if (show.type == anime)
{
        if(show.goodness == good)
        {
                  cout << "I LOVE IT!\n";
        }
}
else if (show.name == "Family Guy")
{
        cout << "I LOVE IT!\n";
}
[/code]

There. You see? I love anime and family guy.

What that proves I don't know but hey, everyone likes diffrent things.[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg97669#msg97669 date=1107211521]
I don't like Anigay, or Anime for that matter.
[/quote]

Who says I like gay anime... IE: Pokemon, *emon, all American anime...

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg97687#msg97687 date=1107215378]
STFU I love anime. Excel Saga, Love Hina, Evangelion, I LOVE IT!

[code]
if (show.type == anime)
{
        if(show.goodness == good)
        {
                  cout << "I LOVE IT!\n";
        }
}
else if (show.name == "Family Guy")
{
        cout << "I LOVE IT!\n";
}
[/code]

There. You see? I love anime and family guy.

What that proves I don't know but hey, everyone likes diffrent things.[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg97669#msg97669 date=1107211521]
I don't like Anigay, or Anime for that matter.
[/quote]

Who says I like gay anime... IE: Pokemon, *emon, all American anime...
[/quote]

So from that, it's safe to assume that if it's not family guy, and it's not anime, then you don't like it?


And btw, the reason it's still banned here is because when they talked about legallizing it, the American Government threatened all sorts of trade sanctions and stuff, so Canada was forced to drop the idea.

Either way, i'm glad they did.  :)

That is just a part of my "Do I like it?" function. Here is a little more:

[code]
if (show.name == "Star Trek"
{
      cout << "I LOVE IT!\n";
}
if (show.goodness > good)
{
      cout << "I LOVE IT!\n";
}
else if (show.goodness > mediocre)
{
      cout << "I Like It!\n";
}
else if (show.goddness == mediocre)
{
      cout << "It is OK.\n";
}
else if (show. goodness <= bad)
{
      cout << "EWWW! Get it away!\n";
}
[/code]

As you can see, I like anything with a goodness of >= mediocre.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg97693#msg97693 date=1107216029]
And btw, the reason it's still banned here is because when they talked about legallizing it, the American Government threatened all sorts of trade sanctions and stuff, so Canada was forced to drop the idea.
[/quote]

And that is why America sucks.

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg97687#msg97687 date=1107215378]
Who says I like gay anime... IE: Pokemon, *emon, all American anime...
[/quote]
Maybe he meant Yaoi? Heh heh.

Maybe because it has similar effects to..INDIAN WORD FOR STUFF THEY SMOKE... & they were killing indians @ the time.


*! Peyote !*  That is the INDIAN WORD FOR STUFF THEY SMOKE

CrAz3D, I think you are showing massive rebundance.

What time are we talking about?

Edit... I feel dumb...

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg97740#msg97740 date=1107227637]
Maybe because it has similar effects to..INDIAN WORD FOR STUFF THEY SMOKE... & they were killing indians @ the time.


*! Peyote !* That is the INDIAN WORD FOR STUFF THEY SMOKE

iago is hot!
[/quote]

Would you quit changeing the subject?

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg97759#msg97759 date=1107262930]
CrAz3D, I think you are showing massive rebundance.

What time are we talking about?

Edit... I feel dumb...

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg97740#msg97740 date=1107227637]
Maybe because it has similar effects to..INDIAN WORD FOR STUFF THEY SMOKE... & they were killing indians @ the time.


*! Peyote !* That is the INDIAN WORD FOR STUFF THEY SMOKE

iago is hot!
[/quote]

Would you quit changeing the subject?
[/quote]

(bold text) is obvious, but I don't understand how it got quoted.

Back to the subject at hand.. umm, America sucks.  No, that wasn't it.  Hmm....

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg97740#msg97740 date=1107227637]
Maybe because it has similar effects to..INDIAN WORD FOR STUFF THEY SMOKE... & they were killing indians @ the time.


*! Peyote !*  That is the INDIAN WORD FOR STUFF THEY SMOKE
[/quote]

Note that peyote is legal under the American Indian Religious Freedom Act for American Indians (illegal for non-Natives).  Most people do not feel a sensation of being "high" unlike marijuana nor are hallucinations common.  So I don't know that it has similar effects.

And people wonder why the indians had visions. :P

And people wonder why the world hates america...

no, people don't realize that everybody hates america :P

Americans are all high and mighty, seemingly without realizing that most of the rest of the world hates them

-- South Park (very vaguely)

True. But why don't they focus their hate on the south?

I don't hate America.

Nor do I...I don't like how the rest of the world assumes things, it makes you & me look like asses...however that works.

It is the Americans fault. For example, when is the last time something good about the government got more than 30 seconds of news coverage? Us Americans only focus on the bad things in this country, but we never try to fix them.

We need a president like FDR to turn this country around.

Why would we focus on the good things? Isn't focusing on bad things a first step to fixing them? You have to recognize whats wrong before you can fix it.

But my point is only the first step is taken.

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg97822#msg97822 date=1107298340]
It is the Americans fault. For example, when is the last time something good about the government got more than 30 seconds of news coverage? Us Americans only focus on the bad things in this country, but we never try to fix them.

We need a president like FDR to turn this country around.
[/quote]

The Inauguration got more than 30 seconds of news coverage, that was a good thing.

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg97858#msg97858 date=1107313155]
[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg97822#msg97822 date=1107298340]
It is the Americans fault. For example, when is the last time something good about the government got more than 30 seconds of news coverage? Us Americans only focus on the bad things in this country, but we never try to fix them.

We need a president like FDR to turn this country around.
[/quote]

The Inauguration got more than 30 seconds of news coverage, that was a good thing.
[/quote]

Depends how you look at it! :D

But back to the point.. HOW'S THE QUITTING?

GOOD!!! NO SMEES!

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg97805#msg97805 date=1107294129]
no, people don't realize that everybody hates america :P[/quote]

i don't *hate* america...
i more *pity* them...LOL

[quote author=KrAzY_NuK link=topic=9823.msg97894#msg97894 date=1107366599]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg97805#msg97805 date=1107294129]
no, people don't realize that everybody hates america :P[/quote]

i don't *hate* america...
i more *pity* them...LOL
[/quote]

moron

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg97899#msg97899 date=1107373269]
[quote author=KrAzY_NuK link=topic=9823.msg97894#msg97894 date=1107366599]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg97805#msg97805 date=1107294129]
no, people don't realize that everybody hates america :P[/quote]

i don't *hate* america...
i more *pity* them...LOL
[/quote]

moron


[/quote]

Good arguments, both of you ;)

How bout this: I neither pity nor hate America, I realize that we as a country are in a downward spin that will either reverse itself or continue downward until the rest of the world gets pissed off and America gets invaded (more likely).

Edit: Yay I am a full member now!

So you lied, or are you just indecisive? First you had pity for America, now you don't. What changed your mind?

Invaded by who? Heh.

When did I have pity? I might of said "I hate America", which than would be partly true.

If America gets invaded, they'd destroy the world defending themselves. 

I think that we should start trying to get America to disarm its nuclear weapons, though.

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg97928#msg97928 date=1107383678]
When did I have pity? I might of said "I hate America", which than would be partly true.

[/quote]

Got you confused with Krazy, sorry.

iago: We'll never diarm, having nuclear weapons brings power and control, and us being the leading super power can't afford to risk losing that status. But you're right, if the entire world invaded us we'd probably destroy the world.

Actually if the whole world banded together and attacked, America=fucked.

[quote author=Falcon[anti-yL] link=topic=9823.msg97958#msg97958 date=1107388609]
Actually if the whole world banded together and attacked, America=fucked.
[/quote]

Send in some hot foreign chicks and they'll be double-fucked

If the U.S. goes to war with another country (and the U.S. is the aggressor), I am moving to Japan. Supposing I am 18 and have lots of money.

Fuck it. I'm moving to the moon.

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg97925#msg97925 date=1107383267]
So you lied, or are you just indecisive? First you had pity for America, now you don't. What changed your mind?

Invaded by who? Heh.
[/quote]CANADA!.. those crazy kanucks are JUST waiting until we have our backs turned.  Ever see Canadian Bacon?... yeah, that is foreshadowing...I KNOW they are gonna attack with nukes!

See? Everyone has nukes now. Ever watch The End Of The World flash animation? EXACTLY! Thats why the best place to go is the moon.

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg98015#msg98015 date=1107408890]
See? Everyone has nukes now. Ever watch The End Of The World flash animation? EXACTLY! Thats why the best place to go is the moon.
[/quote]I bet we could populate the moon in like 25 years

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg98025#msg98025 date=1107410382]
[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg98015#msg98015 date=1107408890]
See? Everyone has nukes now. Ever watch The End Of The World flash animation? EXACTLY! Thats why the best place to go is the moon.
[/quote]I bet we could populate the moon in like 25 years
[/quote]
That's what they said 25 years ago.

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg98005#msg98005 date=1107405871]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg97925#msg97925 date=1107383267]
So you lied, or are you just indecisive? First you had pity for America, now you don't. What changed your mind?

Invaded by who? Heh.
[/quote]CANADA!.. those crazy kanucks are JUST waiting until we have our backs turned. Ever see Canadian Bacon?... yeah, that is foreshadowing...I KNOW they are gonna attack with nukes!
[/quote]

When they were filming 'The Day After Tommorow' the US military donated 6 or so Apache helicopters. Officials in Canada had to reassure residents of where they were filming (Toronto I think) that they were not being invaded by the United States.

LOL..that's hilarious....

But in today's world...who can you really trust?

Not the U.S. If we don't like you, we will invade you.

TeH u§ l3 t3h 1337n3§§!!! Pwning j00!

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg98051#msg98051 date=1107441193]
[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg98005#msg98005 date=1107405871]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg97925#msg97925 date=1107383267]
So you lied, or are you just indecisive? First you had pity for America, now you don't. What changed your mind?

Invaded by who? Heh.
[/quote]CANADA!.. those crazy kanucks are JUST waiting until we have our backs turned. Ever see Canadian Bacon?... yeah, that is foreshadowing...I KNOW they are gonna attack with nukes!
[/quote]

When they were filming 'The Day After Tommorow' the US military donated 6 or so Apache helicopters. Officials in Canada had to reassure residents of where they were filming (Toronto I think) that they were not being invaded by the United States.
[/quote]Donated or sold....?  I have a hard time believing the government would just give away multi-million dollar helicopters

I'm sure part of the movie went to renting them.

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg98005#msg98005 date=1107405871]
Ever see Canadian Bacon?
[/quote]
:D Yes, Yes I have. Hehe.

So... Anyone do anything interesting? I am currently at a magic shop 45 minutes from my house waiting for my brother to finish. It kinda sucks. It looks like I am going to be here for an hour or so.

While we're trying to fly off topic, Shout's signature hurts my eyes.

This is possibly one of the only replies where the subject is applicable.

I also have quit smoking cigarettes habitually.  It's been since summer of last year since I've had one.  I have had cigars since then, but hey, you don't inhale (the clinton defense!) with cigars.

[quote author=K link=topic=9823.msg98305#msg98305 date=1107600161]
This is possibly one of the only replies where the subject is applicable.

I also have quit smoking cigarettes habitually.  It's been since summer of last year since I've had one.  I have had cigars since then, but hey, you don't inhale (the clinton defense!) with cigars.
[/quote]

I thought the clinton defense was that you don't swallow.....


What I mean by that is, good job! :)

But I don't understand: what's the point if you don't inhale?

Clinton responded to the question "Have you ever smoke marijuana before" by saying "Yes, but I didn't swallow"?

Cigars are a status symbol, no?  There is no need to inhale if you have a good cigar..you look UBER cool!

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg98325#msg98325 date=1107619218]
But I don't understand: what's the point if you don't inhale?
[/quote]
They taste good, especially with beer.

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg98328#msg98328 date=1107619758]
Clinton responded to the question "Have you ever smoke marijuana before" by saying "Yes, but I didn't swallow"?
[/quote]

You're supposed to swallow marijuana? 

There's so much I don't know! :P

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg98325#msg98325 date=1107619218]
But I don't understand: what's the point if you don't inhale?
[/quote]
Inhaling cigars gets you way sick I hear.

[quote author=Newby link=topic=9823.msg98476#msg98476 date=1107703563]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg98325#msg98325 date=1107619218]
But I don't understand: what's the point if you don't inhale?
[/quote]
Inhaling cigars gets you way sick I hear.
[/quote]
The only friend I know who has inhaled cigar smoke got high off it, then again the room was hotboxed with all manner of things so it might not have just been that. Either way, it can't be good for you, but he didn't get sick.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg98466#msg98466 date=1107681248]
[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg98328#msg98328 date=1107619758]
Clinton responded to the question "Have you ever smoke marijuana before" by saying "Yes, but I didn't swallow"?
[/quote]

You're supposed to swallow marijuana? 

There's so much I don't know! :P
[/quote]That was in refference to your saying [quote author=iago]I thought the clinton defense was that you don't swallow.....[/quote]

& I think you can swallow it.  You make brownies with it ;)

But in reply to the question "Have you ever smoked marijuana", it doesn't really fit. I have a hard time figuring out what that whole thing means.

[color=red]Y[/color][color=blue]o[/color][color=pink]u[/color] [color=green]d[/color][color=orange]o[/color][color=white]n[/color][color=blue]'[/color][color=pink]t[/color] [color=pink]l[/color][color=orange]i[/color][color=blue]k[/color][color=yellow]e[/color] [color=red]c[/color][color=orange]o[/color][color=yellow]l[/color][color=green]o[/color][color=blue]r[/color][color=purple]s[/color] [color=yellow]i[/color][color=purple]a[/color][color=red]g[/color][color=green]o[/color][color=grey]?[/color]

Edit: Highlight for easier reading.

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg98502#msg98502 date=1107719889]
[color=red]Y[/color][color=blue]o[/color][color=pink]u[/color] [color=green]d[/color][color=orange]o[/color][color=white]n[/color][color=blue]'[/color][color=pink]t[/color] [color=pink]l[/color][color=orange]i[/color][color=blue]k[/color][color=yellow]e[/color] [color=red]c[/color][color=orange]o[/color][color=yellow]l[/color][color=green]o[/color][color=blue]r[/color][color=purple]s[/color] [color=yellow]i[/color][color=purple]a[/color][color=red]g[/color][color=green]o[/color][color=grey]?[/color]

Edit: Highlight for easier reading.
[/quote]

Haha, I highlighted it before I read your edit :)

Does my signature cause you less pain now?

I wanted to steer the topic from pot because it was talked about on page 7 or something.

I had pizza for supper.

So, are you a non-smoker yet!?

I am.

I am a non-smoker. Cheer!

All bow down to the almight shout! Actully, don't. I don't like praise.  :P

[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg98550#msg98550 date=1107744176]
I am.
[/quote]

I meant Shout; to whom I say, "omg you're my hero! *praisepraisepraise*"

Although j0k3r's good too, 'cept I talk to him off the forum so I don't need to say anything here :)

iago, I love your praise. But no one elses.

Quit for the last time?

Yes. I sold the rest of my 3 cartons to my friend and bought nicotine gum with the money. Then when I am done with the gum, I shall be free from nicotine.

good job! want a cookie? :P

Yes.

I do too.

Are these good cookies?  If so I'll start smoking so I can quit for one.

If I don't get a cookie I will start again!  :P

*shrug* here, have a couple Google cookies

.google.com TRUE    /  FALSE  2147368449  PREF    ID=5e87148861c359eb:CR=1:TM=1100395302:LM=1104889129:C2COFF=1:S=FiJYIPTk2lzG8mLT
.google.ca  TRUE    /  FALSE  2147368452  PREF    ID=576fe3c448e6803a:FF=4:LD=en:NR=10:TM=1100395302:LM=1107661140:S=phte8Q77YXACxp3C

Eww, canadian cookies.

Those were the best cookies ever!

No google.de cookies? Ohh well, I'll just have to get my german fix somewhere else..

In Germany mabye?

You can only access german cookies from german!?... & hre I've been eating swis chocolate!

Damn German cookie smugglers... bringing that trash into the U.S., screwing it up even worse than it is... (not to rehash old topics)

But swiss chocolates are pefectly legal.

Good, cause THEY were good.  (so were the blonde swedish girls that came  ::) )

They are legal, but they have AIDS.

I am getting drawn to smoking. Its not funny. I love the feeling I get from walking past someone smoking regular. I just want one. So far i have resisted due to money problems. Its not funny.

[quote author=Meh - (S-1-0-0) link=topic=9823.msg99086#msg99086 date=1107993056]
I am getting drawn to smoking. Its not funny. I love the feeling I get from walking past someone smoking regular. I just want one. So far i have resisted due to money problems. Its not funny.
[/quote]I knows how ya feel dood.  My grandma smoked like das chimney so I like smelling cig smoke...My friends thought I were weird cuz o dat!

I always thought cigs smelled like shit (and I still do), even though both my parents are heavy smokers. When I started, I forced myself to do it for the image, even though it tasted like ass. Looking back, it was the stupidest thing I have ever done.

Besides my ex, but that is a diffrent story.

[quote author=Meh - (S-1-0-0) link=topic=9823.msg99086#msg99086 date=1107993056]
I am getting drawn to smoking. Its not funny. I love the feeling I get from walking past someone smoking regular. I just want one. So far i have resisted due to money problems. Its not funny.
[/quote]

Fight it, and stay away.  Don't be dumb.  You'll end up hating yourself if you get hooked, and it's easy enough to convince yourself that you're "just having one" until it's too late. 

Dodge the bullet! *throws self in front of Meh*

**Watches iago fall to the ground like an idiot, laying in a puddle of oily water in the gutter on 83rd st,  and Meh go into a strip club.**

Btw, I am going to kill someone for the nicotine under their fingernails. I am shaking from nicotine widthdrawl. ARG.

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg99117#msg99117 date=1108004566]
**Watches iago fall to the ground like an idiot, laying in a puddle of oily water in the gutter on 83rd st,  and Meh go into a strip club.**
[/quote]What's the name of this place, I might wanna go there

It's called 'iago danceing naked', and its in Toronto. On 83rd st.

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg99120#msg99120 date=1108004988]
It's called 'iago danceing naked', and its in Toronto. On 83rd st.
[/quote]So why is he out cold in the street? 

Toronto, hmm, is that in Kanuck land?

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg99096#msg99096 date=1107996058]
[quote author=Meh - (S-1-0-0) link=topic=9823.msg99086#msg99086 date=1107993056]
I am getting drawn to smoking. Its not funny. I love the feeling I get from walking past someone smoking regular. I just want one. So far i have resisted due to money problems. Its not funny.
[/quote]I knows how ya feel dood.  My grandma smoked like das chimney so I like smelling cig smoke...My friends thought I were weird cuz o dat!
[/quote]

I know that feeling too...it sucks.  I think it's weird too...
But it's also caused me to start smoking one night when i was drinking alot.  Fortunately I didn't keep smoking the next day.

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg99096#msg99096 date=1107996058]
[quote author=Meh - (S-1-0-0) link=topic=9823.msg99086#msg99086 date=1107993056]
I am getting drawn to smoking. Its not funny. I love the feeling I get from walking past someone smoking regular. I just want one. So far i have resisted due to money problems. Its not funny.
[/quote]I knows how ya feel dood.  My grandma smoked like das chimney so I like smelling cig smoke...My friends thought I were weird cuz o dat!
[/quote]
Problem with smoking in my family is most who smoked has had a serioues stroke. My Grampa smoke from 14 till about 60 when he had a heartattack, then a stroke at 71. My Grandad smoked from about 20. He had a heartattack and has just recoverd from a stroke. Both my Nana and Grandma smoked then quit and they are ok. My auntie smoked at least 40 a day up until about 10 years ago. And she is still really bad from her stroke. My mum smoked through out college and is fine. It has been hard for me to resist as much as I have, when I used to roll my Grampas cig's when i was about 7 years old, as he had a job. Worst thing I have ever done.

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg99136#msg99136 date=1108008886]
[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg99120#msg99120 date=1108004988]
It's called 'iago danceing naked', and its in Toronto. On 83rd st.
[/quote]So why is he out cold in the street? 

Toronto, hmm, is that in Kanuck land?
[/quote]

Yes, didn't you know? Toronto is the capital of Canada.

J'all have one of them there Capeetalls?  Well how about them apples.

Side note, those stop smoking patches, couldn't you get addicted to those too?...just instead of cigs?

I don't know how much the patches are, but the gum is $50 for 40 peices. ~10 pc/day (one for every two I smoked) so about $56 per week in gum.

As opposed to smoking, ~20 cigs/day, 20 is 3.19~3.50 so ~$22.33 a week in cigs.

It is cheaper to keep smoking in the short run.

Gotta think long term though...lung replace ment, holde-in-the-throat install, new voice box

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg99197#msg99197 date=1108072215]
Gotta think long term though...lung replace ment, holde-in-the-throat install, new voice box
[/quote]

Pfft, in Canada that's all free.


And btw, Toronto isn't the capital of Canada, that's just a common mistake made by Americans.  Ottawa is our actual capital.

Don't y'all have 2, like France?

But in Canada it also isn't as good as health care here.  We pay, but it is better.

And look at our country swirl down the non-metric measured toilet.

* cough *

George Bush

* cough *

* cough *
* cough *
* cough ** cough ** cough ** cough *
* cough ** cough ** cough ** cough ** cough ** cough ** cough ** cough *

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg99198#msg99198 date=1108073769]
And btw, Toronto isn't the capital of Canada, that's just a common mistake made by Americans.  Ottawa is our actual capital.
[/quote]

By my calculations, only 1.2% of Americans give a fuck what Canada's capital is.

Clever attack on W there shout. The whole *cough* thing really threw us for a curve for a second!

[quote author=Hazard link=topic=9823.msg99337#msg99337 date=1108162048]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg99198#msg99198 date=1108073769]
And btw, Toronto isn't the capital of Canada, that's just a common mistake made by Americans.  Ottawa is our actual capital.
[/quote]

By my calculations, only 1.2% of Americans give a fuck what Canada's capital is.

Clever attack on W there shout. The whole *cough* thing really threw us for a curve for a second!
[/quote]

Could that be because Americans are self-centered egotistical assholes who don't give a shit about the rest of the world?  Or am I just missing something?

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg99360#msg99360 date=1108171124]
[quote author=Hazard link=topic=9823.msg99337#msg99337 date=1108162048]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg99198#msg99198 date=1108073769]
And btw, Toronto isn't the capital of Canada, that's just a common mistake made by Americans.  Ottawa is our actual capital.
[/quote]

By my calculations, only 1.2% of Americans give a fuck what Canada's capital is.

Clever attack on W there shout. The whole *cough* thing really threw us for a curve for a second!
[/quote]

Could that be because Americans are self-centered egotistical assholes who don't give a shit about the rest of the world?  Or am I just missing something?
[/quote]

Doesn't look like anything is missing at all.  Maybe someone else sees something we don't?

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg99360#msg99360 date=1108171124]
[quote author=Hazard link=topic=9823.msg99337#msg99337 date=1108162048]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg99198#msg99198 date=1108073769]
And btw, Toronto isn't the capital of Canada, that's just a common mistake made by Americans. Ottawa is our actual capital.
[/quote]

By my calculations, only 1.2% of Americans give a fuck what Canada's capital is.

Clever attack on W there shout. The whole *cough* thing really threw us for a curve for a second!
[/quote]

Could that be because Americans are self-centered egotistical assholes who don't give a shit about the rest of the world? Or am I just missing something?
[/quote]

Nobody cares about Canada period. Except maybe Canada.

Cambodia cares about Canada.

Btw, iago is mean! Dumb windows automatically enabling tcp/ip services...

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg99371#msg99371 date=1108177966]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg99360#msg99360 date=1108171124]
[quote author=Hazard link=topic=9823.msg99337#msg99337 date=1108162048]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg99198#msg99198 date=1108073769]
And btw, Toronto isn't the capital of Canada, that's just a common mistake made by Americans. Ottawa is our actual capital.
[/quote]

By my calculations, only 1.2% of Americans give a fuck what Canada's capital is.

Clever attack on W there shout. The whole *cough* thing really threw us for a curve for a second!
[/quote]

Could that be because Americans are self-centered egotistical assholes who don't give a shit about the rest of the world? Or am I just missing something?
[/quote]

Nobody cares about Canada period. Except maybe Canada.
[/quote]

That's a very American attitude to have, and it's one of the reasons that the rest of the world hates Americans :P

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg99380#msg99380 date=1108183906]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9823.msg99371#msg99371 date=1108177966]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg99360#msg99360 date=1108171124]
[quote author=Hazard link=topic=9823.msg99337#msg99337 date=1108162048]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg99198#msg99198 date=1108073769]
And btw, Toronto isn't the capital of Canada, that's just a common mistake made by Americans. Ottawa is our actual capital.
[/quote]

By my calculations, only 1.2% of Americans give a fuck what Canada's capital is.

Clever attack on W there shout. The whole *cough* thing really threw us for a curve for a second!
[/quote]

Could that be because Americans are self-centered egotistical assholes who don't give a shit about the rest of the world? Or am I just missing something?
[/quote]

Nobody cares about Canada period. Except maybe Canada.
[/quote]

That's a very American attitude to have, and it's one of the reasons that the rest of the world hates Americans :P
[/quote]

Did we not go over how America sucks in this thread already?

Since no one disagreed, nobody cares about Canadians, Americans are pricks.... let's move on.

I got my license last week, so far everyday a friend has asked me to go smoke a joint with them, haven't gone yet (and don't plan to).

[quote author=j0k3r link=topic=9823.msg99401#msg99401 date=1108213167]
I got my license last week, so far everyday a friend has asked me to go smoke a joint with them, haven't gone yet (and don't plan to).
[/quote]

Rock on! :)

Sorry to fly back on topic, but my gf says she is going to quit smoking too!

Good for her. :)

[quote author=shout link=topic=9823.msg99428#msg99428 date=1108231895]
Sorry to fly back on topic, but my gf says she is going to quit smoking too!
[/quote]You're getting back on topic?!... wtf are you thinking

wtf am I thinking?

I asked you, I think I did.

I am thinking of icecream, and cookies, and flowers, and peanuts, and the circus, and SRP, [s]and getting back on topic[/s], and dead babies, and eating people, and ...

I find that you can't just quit old habbits, you have to replace them.

Replace them w/?... music!

If we get 4 more posts this will be the third longest thread on the forum, only beat by 'tell us now' and 'the most boring thread ever'

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg99480#msg99480 date=1108241454]
Replace them w/?... music!
[/quote]

I have! I DDR!

I have an idea! You can pick up your habit and quit again, then it'll be the 3rd longest thread!

Or I coud do it 2^32 times and it would be the longest!

That is alot of times, no?

[quote author=Shout link=topic=9823.msg99514#msg99514 date=1108261125]
If we get 4 more posts this will be the third longest thread on the forum, only beat by 'tell us now' and 'the most boring thread ever'

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg99480#msg99480 date=1108241454]
Replace them w/?... music!
[/quote]

I have! I DDR!
[/quote]

Wtf DDR! You Asians are all the same ;)

I laugh at your foolishness.

[color=red]*Shout laughs*[/color]

Fool!

4S14N R 73H 1337N3SS

What is DDR?

Either a type of ram, or Dance Dance Revolution, which is the homosexual dancing arcade game that you generally see a croud of Asians around for some reason.

It's cause they have the foot-eye coordination to do it.  We played that (on xbox) @ my friends apartment (which is upstairs), his downstairs neighbors got ticked...LOL

They spell things different in Kanuck land?  i.e. croud    :P ::)

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg99721#msg99721 date=1108404352]
They spell things different in Kanuck land?  i.e. croud    :P ::)
[/quote]

Nah, just incorrectly

I played a DDR style arcade game in Japan....no i'm too fat to dance, so i wouldn't do that, but the game had a turn-table that you could scratch w/, and 2 other buttons that you had to push...I wish I could be a DJ w/ my new skillz

OMG I AM TALKING ABOUT THE RAM!!~!!

Anyway, why is Dance Dance Revolution homosexual? Because I can get up in front of people and not be held back by the contraints of society? [s]Or because I am prancing about like an idiot to annoyingly repetitive songs?[/s]

Which also reminds me, I hate apples.

Why do you hate apples?  I don't like apples themseleves so much, but apple sauce & apple butter is good.

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg99718#msg99718 date=1108402574]
Either a type of ram, or Dance Dance Revolution, which is the homosexual dancing arcade game that you generally see a croud of Asians around for some reason.
[/quote]
Cause they're homosexual? lol

Cant you just quit? I mean if I can stop myslef from starting when I really want to surely you can stop if you truley want to.

I am weak of will. Mind control devices work well on me.

DDR is fun. I just got back (I stuck $5 in the game, I'm trired now) from it and... it was fun... and completly non-homosexual. The homosexual stuff happend when I got to iago's house.

[quote author=Shout link=topic=9823.msg100149#msg100149 date=1108614877]
I am weak of will. Mind control devices work well on me.

DDR is fun. I just got back (I stuck $5 in the game, I'm trired now) from it and... it was fun... and completly non-homosexual. The homosexual stuff happend when I got to iago's house.
[/quote]

OH! Do tell!
---Who said that?

Meh, why not actually start then try quitting, see if quitting is harded than not starting

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg100259#msg100259 date=1108682755]
[quote author=Shout link=topic=9823.msg100149#msg100149 date=1108614877]
I am weak of will. Mind control devices work well on me.

DDR is fun. I just got back (I stuck $5 in the game, I'm trired now) from it and... it was fun... and completly non-homosexual. The homosexual stuff happend when I got to iago's house.
[/quote]

OH! Do tell!
---Who said that?

Meh, why not actually start then try quitting, see if quitting is harded than not starting
[/quote]

Are we talking about smoking, or DDR?

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg100278#msg100278 date=1108686790]
[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg100259#msg100259 date=1108682755]
[quote author=Shout link=topic=9823.msg100149#msg100149 date=1108614877]
I am weak of will. Mind control devices work well on me.

DDR is fun. I just got back (I stuck $5 in the game, I'm trired now) from it and... it was fun... and completly non-homosexual. The homosexual stuff happend when I got to iago's house.
[/quote]

OH! Do tell!
---Who said that?

Meh, why not actually start then try quitting, see if quitting is harded than not starting
[/quote]

Are we talking about smoking, or DDR?
[/quote]Good questiong, I guess my suggestion applies either way.  I meant smoking though

There is one major diffrence between DDR and smoking: ummm...

Nevermind that.

But I will quit DDR when I get bored of that.

OH! I thought of a driffrence! One is for dry doornails, and the other is the Jesus Patrol Bus System.

Anyway, the homosexual stuff that happend at iago's house is available here.

That IS pretty homo?

i have never taken a puff or a drink or a snort or a drug not even pepto bismol

[quote author=sray390 link=topic=9823.msg100733#msg100733 date=1108955501]
i have never taken a puff or a drink or a snort or a drug not even pepto bismol
[/quote]

Well I ... fine, you win.  But I've never taken pepto bismol either, something about drinking pink :/

[quote author=sray390 link=topic=9823.msg100733#msg100733 date=1108955501]
i have never taken a puff or a drink or a snort or a drug not even pepto bismol
[/quote]You don't take advil or tylenol?  That is jacked.

I've begun to think about hangin out with my friends that DO do this more.  Maybe try it.

[quote author=sray390 link=topic=9823.msg100733#msg100733 date=1108955501]
i have never taken a puff or a drink or a snort or a drug not even pepto bismol
[/quote]
That won't help you live forever.

itll help me live  ;)

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg100763#msg100763 date=1108964661]
[quote author=sray390 link=topic=9823.msg100733#msg100733 date=1108955501]
i have never taken a puff or a drink or a snort or a drug not even pepto bismol
[/quote]You don't take advil or tylenol?  That is jacked.

I've begun to think about hangin out with my friends that DO do this more.  Maybe try it.
[/quote]

You mean the Advil-taking crowd? Some bad asses, they are.

I personally don't like medication much.  I get it from my parents, and plus when I was young I was constantly on penicillan, or some variation.  I avoid taking Advil or other unnecessary drugs unless I absolutely have to.

Back to the point, good for you :)

Yes, "advil" is what my friend "delivers" to his "friends."

Why would you deliver advil? I like snorting octupi and used tampons.

[quote author=Shout link=topic=9823.msg100832#msg100832 date=1109006057]
Why would you deliver advil? I like snorting octupi and used tampons.
[/quote]That is just SO wrong, so so wrong

You have no idea how right you are craz3d. No idea.

Yeah. Just a little.

{[Hello Kitty]}
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So, Shout, you a non-smoker yet? :)

YES!

I gotz my skool to pay 4 teh p4tch3s, 4nd n0w 1 1337 5|-|17.

[quote author=Shout link=topic=9823.msg101332#msg101332 date=1109218544]
YES!

I gotz my skool to pay 4 teh p4tch3s, 4nd n0w 1 1337 5|-|17.
[/quote]

:D

How long's it been?

About 6 days. I am going to kill everyone I know for the nicotine under their fingernails.

And I got a job.

Your schol paid for the patches!?  What kind of school?

What kind of job did you get there eh?

[quote author=Shout link=topic=9823.msg101380#msg101380 date=1109256812]
(I have stopped smoking for) About 6 days.[/quote]
Really, six days?  I find that hard to believe...

Well, not quite... but I am down to like three or four a day.

[quote author=Shout link=topic=9823.msg101524#msg101524 date=1109309071]
Well, not quite... but I am down to like three or four a day.
[/quote]

Stop it, damnit!! :P

Almost.... Today I only smoked 2.

Your never going to stop. For shame.:(

[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg100796#msg100796 date=1108996651]
I get it from my parents, and plus when I was young I was constantly on penicillan, or some variation. I avoid taking Advil or other unnecessary drugs unless I absolutely have to.

Back to the point, good for you :)
[/quote]

The most influential antibiotic of our time, and I'm allergic to it.  Sucks to be me.  I get whooping cough and I have to take some weird antibiotic 'cause I'll swell up and die from penicillin.

Good for you. I kinda wish I was allegic so I would never of started.

My little cousin mentioned that today.  "I'm allergic to smoke so if I try smoking I'll die".  I'm pretty sure that's not true, but if it stops him from trying it (he's 12), then all the better!

[quote author=Shout link=topic=9823.msg101778#msg101778 date=1109478844]
Good for you. I kinda wish I was allegic so I would never of started.
[/quote]K was reffering to penicilin, not cigarettes.

I like some cigarette smoke smells, reminds me of my grandma

Hmm, pot good?  Doesn't cause cancer, no hangover, makes you easily amused & more imaginative, are there any bad side effects like from smoking?

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg101810#msg101810 date=1109488271]
Hmm, pot good?  Doesn't cause cancer, no hangover, makes you easily amused & more imaginative, are there any bad side effects like from smoking?
[/quote]

I don't know where that came from, but eh? It seems to me that the biggest problem is that it causes laziness.  But that's a whole other thread, I wouldn't want to send this thread off topic.

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg101810#msg101810 date=1109488271]
Hmm, pot good?
[/quote]
Depends on the person, usually yes. 

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg101810#msg101810 date=1109488271]
Doesn't cause cancer
[/quote]
The hell it doesn't. Marijuana smoke is 10x as strong as cigarrette smoke. It may have traces of chemicals/pestisides in it that may also cause cancer.

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg101810#msg101810 date=1109488271]
no hangover, makes you easily amused & more imaginative, are there any bad side effects like from smoking?[/quote]
It depends on your defitinition of a hangover, you're usually semi stoned for awhile even after you've come down. Your thoughts are sometimes warped, and as K and iago mentioned you may get paranoid and lethargic. Your ability to learn is greatly hindered, to the point where you almost can't learn (depending on use). When I was smoking daily I'd understand abstract information being taught to me very easily, but it would usually be gone or fuzzy the next day, and the next week totally gone. Scientists say your mind goes over information at night and that's how you remember, I think that's the most impacted. You can also develope a mental addiction to it (I say physical is possible, but most people would say no).

On that note, I haven't had any weed since new years :)

[quote author=K link=topic=9823.msg101723#msg101723 date=1109461396]
[quote author=iago link=topic=9823.msg100796#msg100796 date=1108996651]
I get it from my parents, and plus when I was young I was constantly on penicillan, or some variation. I avoid taking Advil or other unnecessary drugs unless I absolutely have to.

Back to the point, good for you :)
[/quote]

The most influential antibiotic of our time, and I'm allergic to it.  Sucks to be me.  I get whooping cough and I have to take some weird antibiotic 'cause I'll swell up and die from penicillin.
[/quote]
I get the saem kind of problem with penicilin. If I take it I cant eat anything for days and can only drink a teaspoon of water every hour otherwise ill throw up.

Pot has less poisons in it, doesn't it?

[quote author=Blaze - (S-1-0-0) link=topic=9823.msg101855#msg101855 date=1109530865]
Pot has less poisons in it, doesn't it?
[/quote]
If it's all naturally grown, but growers sometimes spray it to keep it healthy.

We already talked about pot twice in this thread.

Hurry up and quit or dye please. This has gone on long enough. :P

I am dying my hair blue...

Really?  Hope it turns out better than the last attempt  ;D

Yes. No more shit-green hair.

Hmm, maybe I have a bad memory, OK?  :-[

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg102175#msg102175 date=1109741616]
Hmm, maybe I have a bad memory, OK?  :-[
[/quote]

Haha! Craz3d can't remember stuff!  :P

[quote author=Shout link=topic=9823.msg102199#msg102199 date=1109781840]
[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg102175#msg102175 date=1109741616]
Hmm, maybe I have a bad memory, OK?  :-[
[/quote]
....? I fail to see the amusing part of that
Haha! Craz3d can't remember stuff!  :P
[/quote]

[quote author=muert0 link=topic=9823.msg95456#msg95456 date=1105917222]
I wouldn't eat a raw bud... it can be used to spice meat dishes, you can make tea with it, or you can put it in foods that mask the flavors like chocolate cakes or brownies. Some good indicas taste good just sauted or you can cook them in butter and save the butter for cooking.
[/quote]

We did that for thanksgiving and mixed it with the butter, it came out real nice. However, the brownies were a bit disapointing.

Speaking of this thread, has Shout finished quitting yet?

You know he will never stop quiting then starting again. ::)

:'(

Nope. The school has still not givin me my patches. It's pissing me off.

You suck! :P

[quote author=Shout link=topic=9823.msg104665#msg104665 date=1111311307]
:'(

Nope. The school has still not givin me my patches. It's pissing me off.
[/quote]Why are you relying on someone else to do it for you?  Do you not have the mental capacity to do it yourself?

Somebody procrastinating about giving up smoking? Nah!

:(

Thats right, feel bad about it. Thats a good step towards quiting.

Shout, instead of getting them from the school, get your own.

Or why dont you threaten your school for them ;) That could always work.

[quote author=QwertyMonster link=topic=9823.msg104807#msg104807 date=1111439676]
Shout, instead of getting them from the school, get your own.
[/quote]

I did look into getting patches not from the school, and my insurance will pay for them. I have to go to the doctor to get a perscription because I am under 18.

[quote author=QwertyMonster link=topic=9823.msg104807#msg104807 date=1111439676]
Or why dont you threaten your school for them
[/quote]

Remember, I live [color=red]A[/color][color=white]m[/color][color=lightblue]e[/color][color=red]r[/color][color=white]i[/color][color=lightblue]c[/color][color=white]a[/color][color=red]![/color] If I threaten anyone, I am a [color=yellow]terrorist[/color]! Then all the [color=red]Republicans[/color] will go to [color=orange]orange alert[/color] and shoot me with there recently legal [color=green]automatic weapons.[/color]

Ohhh Canada...

[quote author=Shout link=topic=9823.msg104939#msg104939 date=1111509285]
[quote author=QwertyMonster link=topic=9823.msg104807#msg104807 date=1111439676]
Shout, instead of getting them from the school, get your own.
[/quote]

I did look into getting patches not from the school, and my insurance will pay for them. I have to go to the doctor to get a perscription because I am under 18.

[quote author=QwertyMonster link=topic=9823.msg104807#msg104807 date=1111439676]
Or why dont you threaten your school for them
[/quote]

Remember, I live [color=red]A[/color][color=white]m[/color][color=lightblue]e[/color][color=red]r[/color][color=white]i[/color][color=lightblue]c[/color][color=white]a[/color][color=red]![/color] If I threaten anyone, I am a [color=yellow]terrorist[/color]! Then all the [color=red]Republicans[/color] will go to [color=orange]orange alert[/color] and shoot me with there recently legal [color=green]automatic weapons.[/color]
[/quote]

funniest thing i've read in a while.

[quote author=Shout link=topic=9823.msg104939#msg104939 date=1111509285]
[quote author=QwertyMonster link=topic=9823.msg104807#msg104807 date=1111439676]
Shout, instead of getting them from the school, get your own.
[/quote]

I did look into getting patches not from the school, and my insurance will pay for them. I have to go to the doctor to get a perscription because I am under 18.

[quote author=QwertyMonster link=topic=9823.msg104807#msg104807 date=1111439676]
Or why dont you threaten your school for them
[/quote]

Remember, I live [color=red]A[/color][color=white]m[/color][color=lightblue]e[/color][color=red]r[/color][color=white]i[/color][color=lightblue]c[/color][color=white]a[/color][color=red]![/color] If I threaten anyone, I am a [color=yellow]terrorist[/color]! Then all the [color=red]Republicans[/color] will go to [color=orange]orange alert[/color] and shoot me with there recently legal [color=green]automatic weapons.[/color]
[/quote]
Maybe you could ask to be shot, then you wouldn't have to worry about quitting?

I started

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg107234#msg107234 date=1112580325]
I started
[/quote]

Please tell me you're joking

April Fools ;D ;D
:-\ :'(

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9823.msg107247#msg107247 date=1112583906]
April Fools ;D ;D
:-\ :'(
[/quote]

*checks calendar*

You're 2 days late :P

or am I lying about it being a joke?

:P

*bump*

Omg I quit for real. One and a half months.

GJ eh?

What did you quit again?...

The subject of the second longest [size=1pt]real[/size] thread on the forum...

Cigerettes of course.

okey dokey

Good job. 

Nice Shout. :)

Time to quit life, Shout

[quote]
« Reply #407 on: [u]July 05[/u], 2005, 03:14 am »
[/quote]

I think you should take your own suggustion.

You're so hateful, Shout :(

I started :(?

You started crazed? Quit the smoking, and start buying condoms instead! :P

[quote author=QwertyMonster link=topic=9823.msg126170#msg126170 date=1125441478]
You started crazed? Quit the smoking, and start buying condoms instead! :P
[/quote]

For once, I 100% agree with you. =p

I hope you're joking..

I started..

I re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re started.

I smoked a few drags off 1 cigarette, I by far have not become a smoker

Tripple slap.

CrAz3D: Your girlfriend isn't gonna wanna make out with you if you have stinky smokers breath.

Wuz gunna say that

I kiss my girlfriend who has stinky smokers breath.

Because you do too.

I wouldn't date a smoker.

Neither would i trust. I hate smokers, and that icky, smelly, stinky horrible breathe. :-X

2 drags & I'm a smoker?...:(

She doesn't like beer & still kisses me after I drink...mm, beer, sounds good right now.  Yay clarinet/sax/random people campout next weekend!  2 nights of drunken fun, just need to figure out how to get 'stuff' there...I don't think it is legal for me to drive with no one that is 21 & have alcohol (esp since I have to drive through a border patrol checkpoint)

Then Oct. 1 there is another campout, whoo...maybe I'll smoke natural stuff there.  Anyone know anything fun to smoke that might exist naturally @ a lake or in the mountains (not weed, although I can find it in the mountains)

poison ivy.

gl hf

AHH THIS HAS TO DIE

locked plzkthx