Valhalla Legends Forums Archive | Politics | Average IQ by state, and who they voted for

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Vicious
http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm

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November 4, 2004, 5:18 PM
Myndfyr
That simply indicates that Bush makes it easier for people to understand what he's saying than Kerry does.

We talked about these kinds of things in my Psych and Int'l Relations class.  Kerry has more of what is called "cognitive complexity," which means he considers more things at a time than Bush does when calculating a cost-benefit analysis.  The drawbacks to this include potentially taking more time to calculate a cost-benefit, and factoring things that do not have an actual bearing on the outcome.  The drawback for Bush is that he ends up relying more on heuristics and other assumptions when calculating cost-benefit, which can be okay, but increase odds of miscalculation; however, the bonus is that he comes to conclusions generally faster, which is important in an emergency.

Bush also formulates sentences in a Subject->Verb->Object sort of way, which is easy for people to digest.  Kerry likes to add all kinds of extra conditionals and dependent clauses, in a manner similar to what I'm doing right now.  It makes you sound intelligent, but it can alienate people, and it's harder to keep up.  That doesn't mean that either person is incorrect; it simply means the Bush campaign was able to reach more people.

Did you hear that of the 18 candidates for Congress that the NRA supported, 14 were elected, whereas of the 27 supported by MoveOn.org, only 5 were elected?  :P
November 4, 2004, 5:59 PM
hismajesty
Yay for Virginia being the smartest Bush state. :D
November 4, 2004, 7:36 PM
DrivE
That would be like posting "States that at one time seceeded from the Union, and who they voted for." Coincidence.
November 4, 2004, 8:58 PM
Stealth
Additionally, questionably-sourced. Also doesn't take into account immigrant population, especially in places like Florida and Texas. An important fact that many overlook this time around is that some 42% of the hispanic vote went to Bush, compared with 35% in 2000 (which at the time was unheard-of in national elections).
November 4, 2004, 11:36 PM
LW-Falcon
There was no way in hell of Kerry getting Texas.
November 5, 2004, 12:08 AM
peofeoknight
I would like to know how they got this statistic. Was that a question in those wonderful exit polls? What is your iq?
November 5, 2004, 3:55 AM
Yoni
Above link is utter crap and anyone who disagrees owes me 1 point of IQ.

EDIT: If you STILL disagree please click on the first link on the Google search for the query "average iq by state":
http://americanassembler.com/features/iq_state_averages.htm

By the way, IQ in general is bullshit, but that discussion is off-topic in this forum...
November 5, 2004, 4:17 AM
zorm
Being bored I decided to make a new chart using the smartest state data from 2003.
[code]
Rank State Voted

1. Massachusetts - Kerry
2. Vermont - Kerry
3. Connecticut - Kerry
4. Montana - Bush
5. New Jersey - Kerry
6. Maine - Kerry
7. Pennsylvania - Kerry
8. Wisconsin - Kerry
8. Iowa - Bush
10. New York - Kerry
11. Nebraska - Bush
12. Minnesota - Kerry
13. Indiana - Bush
14. Wyoming - Bush
15. Kansas - Bush
16. Rhode Island - Kerry
17. Virginia - Bush
18. Maryland - Kerry
19. Delaware - Kerry
20. Michigan - Kerry
21. North Carolina - Bush
22. Ohio - Bush
23. Alaska - Bush
24. North Dakota - Bush
25. Utah - Bush
26. New Hampshire - Kerry
27. Illinois - Kerry
28. Missouri - Bush
29. West Virginia - Bush
30. Idaho - Bush
31. South Dakota - Bush
32. Oregon - Kerry
33. Washington - Kerry
34. Texas - Bush
35. Colorado - Bush
36. Georgia - Bush
37. Kentucky - Bush
38. Arkansas - Bush
39. Oklahoma - Bush
40. Florida - Bush
41. South Carolina - Bush
42. Tennessee - Bush
43. Hawaii - Kerry
44. California - Kerry
45. Arizona - Bush
46. Alabama - Bush
47. Louisiana - Bush
48. Mississippi - Bush
49. Nevada - Bush
50. New Mexico - Bush
[/code]

As you can see there really isn't a pattern.
November 6, 2004, 1:56 AM
Newby
If the average citizen in the United States is "stupid", we don't need someone that they can't understand leading the country.

Just let this Bush vs Kerry shit die.
November 6, 2004, 2:42 AM
hismajesty
[quote]17. Virginia - Kerry[/quote]

Lies. Our 13 votes have not gone to a Democrat since Johnson in 1964.
November 6, 2004, 11:50 AM
vonLandenhausen
har har har
i knew it
November 6, 2004, 1:41 PM
zorm
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=9419.msg87610#msg87610 date=1099741856]
[quote]17. Virginia - Kerry[/quote]

Lies. Our 13 votes have not gone to a Democrat since Johnson in 1964.
[/quote]

Oops, error on my part. I was thinking it was still in KerryLand.
November 6, 2004, 7:00 PM
Vicious
[quote author=Zorm link=topic=9419.msg87574#msg87574 date=1099706192]
using the smartest state data from 2003.
[/quote]


Where's that from?
November 10, 2004, 6:40 AM
DrivE
[quote author=Vicious link=topic=9419.msg88202#msg88202 date=1100068832]
[quote author=Zorm link=topic=9419.msg87574#msg87574 date=1099706192]
using the smartest state data from 2003.
[/quote]


Where's that from?
[/quote]

I'd assume a place less biased than your source.
November 10, 2004, 12:07 PM
Vicious
I don't care. That wasn't much of an answer.
November 10, 2004, 3:56 PM

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