Driving is fun so I figure here works out best.


Car survery:


1) Cheap insurance v more expensive insurance?
2) 20mpg v 25mpg (city/street)
3) 200hp v 170?
3) Not AS reliable v mechanically reliable?
4) Cheap parts to fix or expensive auto shop bills?
5) 1999 Pontiac Firebird v 1996 Acura Integra GS-R?


Please answer these questions as I am conducting a survey of people's tastes.

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1) Cheap insurance v more expensive insurance?
Cheap
2) 20mpg v 25mpg (city/street)
25mpg
3) 200hp v 170?
200hp
3) Not AS reliable v mechanically reliable?
reliable
4) Cheap parts to fix or expensive auto shop bills?
cheap
5) Pontiac Firebird v Acura Integra?
firebird
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I just updated survey thing.  1996 integra & '99 firebird

Go for a car made in 2000 or later. I wouldn't put money into something almost five years old. Not when you can purchase a good quality brand car for under 12k and get payments of only like 250/mo.

Like we recommened on madz, go with the one your dad wants you to get. It's brand new and obviously less of a hassle.

But hyundai has no power, no looks, no thirll.  What is the point in that?...

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9415.msg87278#msg87278 date=1099535014]
Driving is fun so I figure here works out best.


Car survery:


1) Cheap insurance v more expensive insurance?
2) 20mpg v 25mpg (city/street)
3) 200hp v 170?
3) Not AS reliable v mechanically reliable?
4) Cheap parts to fix or expensive auto shop bills?
5) 1999 Pontiac Firebird v 1996 Acura Integra GS-R?


Please answer these questions as I am conducting a survey of people's tastes.
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I would stick with american iron or a honda or toyota. The reason why is american Iron and honda and toyota have great parts networks.

I drive a 98' buick lesabre. It was owned by an old lady so it only had 35,000 on it. It is fast as hell though. Once I get into second gear I just blow everything away. People feel bad when they loose a drag race to an old person car  :P

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But hyundai has no power, no looks, no thirll. What is the point in that?...
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no headaches

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I would stick with american iron or a honda or toyota. The reason why is american Iron and honda and toyota have great parts networks.

I drive a 98' buick lesabre. It was owned by an old lady so it only had 35,000 on it. It is fast as hell though. Once I get into second gear I just blow everything away. People feel bad when they loose a drag race to an old person car  :P
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An Acura, bear in mind, IS a Honda. I'd take the Integra in a heartbeat. No way I'm putting myself behind the wheel of a Pontiac.

And for some reason, car companies seem to feel that 80-year-old ladies need cars with 300 horsepower. It's one of life's great mysteries.

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[quote author=quasi-modo link=topic=9415.msg87483#msg87483 date=1099652516]
I would stick with american iron or a honda or toyota. The reason why is american Iron and honda and toyota have great parts networks.

I drive a 98' buick lesabre. It was owned by an old lady so it only had 35,000 on it. It is fast as hell though. Once I get into second gear I just blow everything away. People feel bad when they loose a drag race to an old person car  :P
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An Acura, bear in mind, IS a Honda. I'd take the Integra in a heartbeat. No way I'm putting myself behind the wheel of a Pontiac.[/quote] An acura is a more expencive honda that is probable more complex mechanically. I am not exactly sure what the inner workings of an acura look like, but I am better it is a bit more complex and refined then honda. This could mean the car is harder to service. But this is just what I would think. Anyone know what the mechaninics of an acura are?
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And for some reason, car companies seem to feel that 80-year-old ladies need cars with 300 horsepower. It's one of life's great mysteries.
[/quote] It is, but I have avoided quite a few tickets I think in my buick. I mean I blasted past a state trooper yesterday because I was passing a truck (I went in the far right lane), then when I got back into the middle lane I saw a speed trap in the middle. Scared the crap out of me, I got right back into the right land and hit the breaks. I have not gotten a speeding ticket yet, I have been driving for about 2 years now. I ran a red light one time and a cop saw it and followed me with the lights off and I had to get on the freeway to loose him one time.

No, an Acura IS a Honda. Acura is wholly owned and run by the Honda company. Acura was created to market higher-performance Hondas in the United States, where Honda is normally associated with low end cars like the Civic and family cars like the Accord. If you go to Japan, you'll see Honda Integra, Honda NSX, etc. rather than Acura. They are literally the same cars.

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=9415.msg87278#msg87278 date=1099535014]
1) Cheap insurance v more expensive insurance?
2) 20mpg v 25mpg (city/street)
3) 200hp v 170?
3) Not AS reliable v mechanically reliable?
4) Cheap parts to fix or expensive auto shop bills?
5) 1999 Pontiac Firebird v 1996 Acura Integra GS-R?
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1)  Inexpensive, great insurance (USAA Premium - available only to officers and families of US military)
2)  18mpg / 28mpg  (city / hwy)
3)  300hp
3)  Super-reliable
4)  Expensive
5)  2004 Volvo S60 R

Hope this helps :)

But seriously, go with the firebird.  A 2004 Firebird blew me away, passed me as I hit 5th gear at 120mph, went by me like I was sitting still.  Doubt he was stock, it drove and sounded like 440hp or more.

Firebirds are shit to drive IMO. I have driven one before... it just drove like a damn brick with wheels. That might have just been that one, but from what I have seen they are built chinsier then the camara. I do not really like either car that much  :-X. If I had to choose I

Seriously?... that bad to drive?  My father doesn't want me to get it because of its huge nose & also the fact that for like the same price I can get a brand new '04 Mustang. (which i think just may happen)

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No, an Acura IS a Honda. Acura is wholly owned and run by the Honda company. Acura was created to market higher-performance Hondas in the United States, where Honda is normally associated with low end cars like the Civic and family cars like the Accord. If you go to Japan, you'll see Honda Integra, Honda NSX, etc. rather than Acura. They are literally the same cars.
[/quote] I knew acura was owned by honda, but I thought the mechanics is different. I thought they put all of their fancy stuff on the acuras. Like cadillac is owned by GM, but the mechanics of a cadillac are very different then the mechanics of a chevy. Cadillac has that power shifiting stuff where power can be shifted from one wheel to another to help you keep control of the car, I think that is called the north star system or something. I thought they put stuff like that into acuras that they do not put into hondas. I guess I thought wrong....

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Seriously?... that bad to drive?  My father doesn't want me to get it because of its huge nose & also the fact that for like the same price I can get a brand new '04 Mustang. (which i think just may happen)
[/quote] They are good power wise, I just do not find them comfortable at all. I mean I know a camaro is going to cost more, but a camaro feels a lot nicer. Besides the suspention and the interior they are the same car though. If you just want the power the firebird will work for you though.

yeah. get a new 8-cyl mustang and .01 mpg!
get a small car. a stickshift. my '93 240SX gets awesome gas mileage, and its a quick little car.
i haven't measured it yet, but i believe my tank holds 15 something gallons.
if i'm working on a saturday night (delivering food!), i drive about 60 miles. i use less than a quarter tank if i shift around 2500 rpm.

The new stang looks sweet as hell. I don't like the look of the older ones, but the new one is awesome. personally I like the 3000gt and the 300zx (I do not like the 350).

3000gt is a Mitsubishi

2004 Mustang is like 5g less than an '05

'04 is still @ about 14,600, can talk them down SOME I assume.  05 is totally revamped from 04.  Almost nothing is same.  The base model (4.0l V6) has 10 more horses than the 3.8l V6 04.  The handling is nicer, nicer everything in general

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The new stang looks sweet as hell. I don't like the look of the older ones, but the new one is awesome. personally I like the 3000gt and the 300zx (I do not like the 350).
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My dad had an '87 300zx, he sold it earlier this year unfortunately.

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3000gt is a Mitsubishi
[/quote] I know, but I still like it. Does not mean I would buy one. I like a lot of BMWs too :P. I also am a fan of the aston martin db9 and a the v12 vanquish.

My acura CL had the same engine as the accord. Really not much differencr at all. And it was pretty easy to work on. I changed the alternator at around 120k miles but I had a problem with the transmision. At 99,999 miles I had it changed under warranty for free. So the warrant y I paid $1000 for was well worth it since the transmission was $4,000 to replace. But, at 150k miles it had to be changed again. I don't think the transmission was made for the power the engine put out.