Ah, now that I got this damn Package manager working... what are some apps / progs that a linux user can't live without, list some cool stuff whether it;s desktop enhancement or just programs.

If you don't already have "The GIMP", "Gaim", "Firefox", or "Thunderbird", I suggest you get 'em all.

(I realize half of those are probably not on the package manager, but they're still leet)

And that AMOR (Amusing Waste of Resources) is indeed amusing. :)

I prefer to use konqueror when I am on linux just because it has built in spell checking. Fire fox is my browser of choice on windows.

Wine sucks but I suggest you get it.

All of those are probably already on his computer. And it's not that hard to get an extension for firefox that checks spelling.

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I prefer to use konqueror when I am on linux just because it has built in spell checking. Fire fox is my browser of choice on windows.

Wine sucks but I suggest you get it.
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I noticed that Konqueror has spellchecking the first time I used it to post on the vL forums. I couldn't figure out why in the world words were being underlined! :P

Wine + Photoshop > the gimp

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Wine + Photoshop > the gimp
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Wine in general sucks.

Also, free software > commercial software.

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[quote author=Maddox link=board=2;threadid=8801;start=0#msg81697 date=1095991284]
Wine + Photoshop > the gimp
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Wine in general sucks.

Also, free software > commercial software.
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Free software that can't compare to comercial software sucks.

[quote author=Newby link=board=2;threadid=8801;start=0#msg81698 date=1095991373]
[quote author=Maddox link=board=2;threadid=8801;start=0#msg81697 date=1095991284]
Wine + Photoshop > the gimp
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Wine in general sucks.

Also, free software > commercial software.
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Photoshop can be free software too.

Damn, I should have stated legally. :P

And why does W.I.N.E. suck?

Because it's slow and barely ever works. Plus it's ugly.

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Because it's slow and barely ever works. Plus it's ugly.
[/quote] yeah, half the crap I try to run with it gives me an error message. You can never game from it because of the lag, etc.

I've never had any problems with it but I've never really tried to run anything big from it.

What do you mean it's ugly? It looks the exact same as windows 2000!!

I once posted some screenshots to prove that point, but I don't know where they are..

And if you have SuSE pro I can't really think of anything you could need that didn't come with the install unless you just did a default install.

If he did a default install, the first thing I recommend is "gcc".

gcc is in the default install of SuSE pro. Personal is the one that doesn't have shit.

What makes SuSE professional better than personal - havent really read about the differences.

Personal is missing a lot of items because of licensing issues. That's why it cost a little bit to get the SuSE pro disc or you can do a FTP install. If you have personal and would like Pro I can point you to a good tutorial I found on installing it by FTP. It only took me an hour to do a full install by FTP.

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What do you mean it's ugly? It looks the exact same as windows 2000!!

I once posted some screenshots to prove that point, but I don't know where they are..
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GTK, one of the common toolkits, has a crappy refresh rate, crappy repaint handling, and is all around slow at drawing. Qt is encumbered by licensing issues and is also slow as hell and has a crappy refresh rate (but it's repaint handling is better).

Not to mention that almost all Linux apps are horribly not polished. They often resize the window without resizing components, not lined up correctly, and are loaded with spelling errors.

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Not to mention that almost all Linux apps are horribly not polished. They often resize the window without resizing components, not lined up correctly, and are loaded with spelling errors.
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Name some of these applications ?

K anything is not polished (KOffice, KDE configurer)
OpenOffice is slow
AbiWord is not polished

Gaim screwed up my buddy list too.

[quote author=$t0rm link=topic=8801.msg82285#msg82285 date=1096311843]
K anything is not polished (KOffice, KDE configurer)
OpenOffice is slow
AbiWord is not polished

Gaim screwed up my buddy list too.
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It sounds to me like a problem with your computer, not with the software.

What I meant was, how is "K anything" not polished ? How is AbiWord not polished ? Which applications are loaded with spelling errors, which ones don't resize components, and which ones don't "line up correctly" ?

Also, have you ever compared the benchmarks for OpenOffice with other Office suites ? Or have you ever benchmarked it yourself ? Or are you just guessing ? Gut instinct ? I didn't know it was slow, and I'd be thankful if you could enlighten me.

I also wouldn't mind knowing where you're getting your information about GTK's crappy refresh rate, crappy repaint handling, and over all slowness at drawing.