In my opinion they were very powerful. Especially Zell Millers, I was very impressed by both Miller and Cheney. Miller's words were very stern and his face added to the seriousness. Cheney's was awesome too, but I still enjoyed Miller's much more. I really think those speeches combined could easily make the swing voters that watched start leaning more to the right.

Thoughts? (I'd prefer comments from people who actually watched it as opposed to those who didn't.) :P

Off Topic:
In addition, this afternoons speech by Kerry made me laugh a few times. It seems Kerry is for the war again, and for buying the stuff he voted against now. He's now planning to send 47,000 more troops out around the world, oh how his opinions are changing. He's got a ton of plans for America, I'd like to know how he's planning to pay for them.

Zell Miller is a Republican on most issues. I think he's just a Democrat to protest partisan issues.

I'm watching MSNBC now, this is hilarious...Zell Miller seems pretty angry.

[quote]This is your program, and I'm a guest on it, so I'm trying to be as nice as I can, but I wish I was a little bit closer so I could get up in your face.[/quote]

[quote author=Maddox link=board=2;threadid=8519;start=0#msg78651 date=1094095024]
Zell Miller is a Republican on most issues. I think he's just a Democrat to protest partisan issues.
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Conversely, John McCain is a Democrat on most issues.

[quote]G_G[/quote]--Newby

[quote author=MyndFyre link=board=2;threadid=8519;start=0#msg78657 date=1094095268]
[quote author=Maddox link=board=2;threadid=8519;start=0#msg78651 date=1094095024]
Zell Miller is a Republican on most issues. I think he's just a Democrat to protest partisan issues.
[/quote]

Conversely, John McCain is a Democrat on most issues.

[quote]G_G[/quote]--Newby
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Social issues.

I'd recommend everybody turn on MSNBC, this is hilarious.

[quote]GET OUT OF MY FACE! IF YOU'RE GOING TO ASK ME A QUESTION, LET ME ANSWER IT. I WISH WE WERE BACK IN THE DAY WHEN I COULD CHALLENGE YOU TO A DUEL[/quote]

[quote]Senator, can I ask you a question? No no, you ask me a question and then don't give me a chance to answer it, you just talk over me. Well, let me ask you this. Are you gonna shut up if you ask me it?[/quote]

Damn, missed it.

[quote author=Maddox link=board=2;threadid=8519;start=0#msg78663 date=1094095573]
Damn, missed it.
[/quote]

Hopefully this will be uploaded somewhere. Miller was (rightfully) avoiding a yes or no question, but it was hilarious nonetheless. Chris Matthews got owned, either way.

Edit: Here is a transcript of Miller's speech. There's a video on msnbc.com (go to news videos) I haven't found a video of Miller's interview but if I do I'll post it!

Have you watched the cbs coverage, its great! Agenda setting at its finest, they covered the dnc well, and did not cover the guys running up and down the street dressed like flipper or the protesters there, yet they are focusing more on the protestoers then the nrc now. They are showing their true colors right now, trying to deamonize bush.

[quote author=peofeoknight link=board=2;threadid=8519;start=0#msg78669 date=1094096147]
Have you watched the cbs coverage, its great! Agenda setting at its finest, they covered the dnc well, and did not cover the guys running up and down the street dressed like flipper or the protesters there, yet they are focusing more on the protestoers then the nrc now. They are showing their true colors right now, trying to deamonize bush.
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I think the protesters hurt John Kerry more than help him.

Protestors are anything but peaceful, at least when they're surrounded by people who disagree with their views. It really shows these peace loving patriots true colors, eh?

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=board=2;threadid=8519;start=0#msg78675 date=1094096866]
Protestors are anything but peaceful, at least when they're surrounded by people who disagree with their views. It really shows these peace loving patriots true colors, eh?
[/quote] oh yes, those pw vids show those liberal hords in their true colors.

[quote author=peofeoknight link=board=2;threadid=8519;start=0#msg78680 date=1094097779]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=board=2;threadid=8519;start=0#msg78675 date=1094096866]
Protestors are anything but peaceful, at least when they're surrounded by people who disagree with their views. It really shows these peace loving patriots true colors, eh?
[/quote] oh yes, those pw vids show those liberal hords in their true colors.
[/quote]

I can't say it's only the left though. Today at the Youth convention, a group of lefties breached security and got in the middle of everybody and raised their signs. The conservatives pushed one of the gusy - but these were people aged 16-18 which, imo, is a lot different than a 40 year old pushing a 17 year old as shown in pw videos.

speaking of protest warriors, here are some shots of the new york trip (operation liberty rising.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1205247/posts

Edit:

[img]http://forum.protestwarrior.com/avatars/6565551314136b578e0398.jpg[/img]

In general though, conservatives seem to be more taim then libs.

Here's Zell's interview by Chris Matthews for those intrested:

Video: http://63.241.29.233/7/114/1243/127385964230000000/ak-msnbc.msnbc.com/video/100/n_matthews_miller_040901.asf

Transcript: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5892840/

He's very dodgey about the Kerry voting record question lol...

:P Ah he's never going on that show again

Edit: Not very, Kerry!

Zell is a beast.
[quote]That was a metaphore, do you know what a metaphore is?[/quote]

No he said metafur. Heh.

I challenge you to a duel....

I watched the Governor Pataki and President Bush's speeches last night. Pataki even gave us a "This one's for the Gipper" quotes and I believe that President Bush's speech was a knockout. He needed a huge speech to get into the minds of the undecided voters, between 6% and 8% of the vote, and he did it last night. Bravo zulu to an excellent job from the RNC.

Bush's speech was indeed very good. Everyone was worried about how he would say it (he even mentioned his problem with speaking coherently.) In my opinion, he did supurb. As far as I remember he made no grammatical errors (passed his dialect) and only fumbled on a few words - but everybody does that from time to time.

It's also great the diversity of speakers they had at the RNC. They had a speaker that appealed to almost every voting group - immigrants/minorities/women/democrats. The TV cameras also focused on the minorities present a lot! There were certainly more African-Americans at the RNC than the DNC - at least that were shown. Which, I guess it goes to show the uneducated people that the Republican party is made up of more than just racist, rich, white people. :)

His speach was great. I loved how he mixed in humor, especially when he was criticizing lurch.

Did you see the protestor getting kicked out of the RNC by the bouncers?

[quote author=peofeoknight link=board=2;threadid=8519;start=15#msg78887 date=1094226413]Did you see the protestor getting kicked out of the RNC by the bouncers?
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Yea, Bush laughed! :P

His sign said bush lied people died, lol.

[quote author=peofeoknight link=board=2;threadid=8519;start=15#msg78894 date=1094228182]
His sign said bush lied people died, lol.
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His? It looked like a girl to me...were there two people the SS escorted out?

Oh, I just caught a glimps of it, might have been a woman. I thought it was a black male though. Maybe I was looking at one of the bouncers or something.

I watched the replay again this afternoon, it was a woman. She did put up a struggle..well tried. Didn't really have a chance against 7+ secret service agents.

[img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040903/capt.rnc16609030257.cvn_bush_protest_rnc166.jpg[/img]

I didn't think those were the secret service. I just thought they had lots of special bouncers there to keep protesters and people acting uncivilized out of the area. I want one of those ball caps.

Thye look retarded wearing a baseball cap with a suit. And that lady looks scary.

[quote author=peofeoknight link=board=2;threadid=8519;start=15#msg79024 date=1094280449]
I didn't think those were the secret service. I just thought they had lots of special bouncers there to keep protesters and people acting uncivilized out of the area. I want one of those ball caps.
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The Secret Service oganized security, and you could pretty much tell who was SS and who wasn't on TV. I'm assuming that was the Secret Service, too.