Valhalla Legends Forums Archive | Battle.net Bot Development | BNLS is down?

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Myndfyr
[12:50:13 PM] [BNLS] Error 10060: The attempt to connect timed out
[12:50:13 PM] [BNLS] This error means that the server is not accessible due to internet problems. Try again later.
[12:50:13 PM] All connections closed.


I rebooted into a different OS with the same result. Any thoughts?
August 28, 2004, 7:50 PM
The-Rabid-Lord
Its down :P
August 28, 2004, 7:52 PM
MindArchon
[quote author=Meh link=board=17;threadid=8429;start=0#msg77807 date=1093722730]
Its down :P
[/quote]

It was down last night.
August 28, 2004, 8:09 PM
hismajesty
It's not down, it's just unreachable.
August 28, 2004, 8:10 PM
UserLoser.
Someone is SYN flooding or packeting or whatever you call it to valhallalegends.com. And just about 10 minutes ago, they did it to userloser.net. *Extremely* lame
August 28, 2004, 8:22 PM
LordNevar
It's amazing what people will do that obviously have no live's.
August 28, 2004, 8:33 PM
The-Rabid-Lord
The forums must have just had it too, as they were unreachable. ???
August 28, 2004, 8:34 PM
Newby
[quote author=UserLoser. link=board=17;threadid=8429;start=0#msg77812 date=1093724567]
Someone is SYN flooding or packeting or whatever you call it to valhallalegends.com.
[/quote]
Denial of Service. Otherwise called a DDoS or DoS attack. :)
August 28, 2004, 8:58 PM
LW-Falcon
Is it Bsd again?
August 28, 2004, 10:52 PM
ChR0NiC
Apparently www.valhallalegends.com still works as a connection server, just not bnls.valhallalegends.com, what did Skywing do to deserve this? All he did was provide an easy connection system FOR FREE !! Probably forked over some big bucks for that death server as well. And what does he get in return? DOS Attacked?
August 28, 2004, 10:57 PM
LordNevar
Can I get an "AMEN"!!!!! ;D
August 28, 2004, 11:00 PM
Quarantine
No Amen... but you get a w3rd.
August 28, 2004, 11:04 PM
hismajesty
[quote author=ChRoNiC link=board=17;threadid=8429;start=0#msg77867 date=1093733865]
Apparently www.valhallalegends.com still works as a connection server, just not bnls.valhallalegends.com, what did Skywing do to deserve this? All he did was provide an easy connection system FOR FREE !! Probably forked over some big bucks for that death server as well. And what does he get in return? DOS Attacked?
[/quote]

It had nothing to do with BNLS. The resident lamer got pissed becuase he was banned from op [vL].
August 28, 2004, 11:07 PM
bethra
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=board=17;threadid=8429;start=0#msg77872 date=1093734444]
[quote author=ChRoNiC link=board=17;threadid=8429;start=0#msg77867 date=1093733865]
Apparently www.valhallalegends.com still works as a connection server, just not bnls.valhallalegends.com, what did Skywing do to deserve this? All he did was provide an easy connection system FOR FREE !! Probably forked over some big bucks for that death server as well. And what does he get in return? DOS Attacked?
[/quote]

It had nothing to do with BNLS. The resident lamer got pissed becuase he was banned from op [vL].
[/quote]

So Skywing knows who is doing this bullshit?
August 29, 2004, 12:39 AM
hismajesty
Yes. Among lots of other people, I mean, he isn't really a modest guy.
August 29, 2004, 12:51 AM
NetNX
Hail Skywing!
August 29, 2004, 2:48 PM
LizArD
Still down.. =( Cant they somehow block off the DDoS attack or something, I dunno though, i've never been DDoS'd before..
August 29, 2004, 3:06 PM
TangoFour
Sure they can - by pulling out the network cable of the server computer - renders the DDoS completely ineffective (then again, so will the server be)
August 29, 2004, 3:48 PM
Quarantine
Possible Legal Actions ? I mean doesn't this Server cost money to run and him just crashing the service with a DoS attack isn't it illegal?
August 29, 2004, 4:33 PM
LizArD
yeah sue them bastards ;D
August 29, 2004, 5:22 PM
TangoFour
Sue who exactly? They'd need to know the real identity of the person responsible
August 29, 2004, 9:49 PM
LizArD
oh no, someone acted like a smartass on me :'(

if they're DDoS'ing you I have a feeling you can get their IP somehow, maybe contact their ISP? maybe get their ISP to ban them? I dont know.
August 29, 2004, 10:06 PM
The-Rabid-Lord
The guy who did will have masked his ISP. vL know who did it same as me :P
August 29, 2004, 10:07 PM
Arta
Not exactly on topic but nevermind:

DDoS attacks are very hard to trace back to the attacker, because:

1. The attack does not originate from the attacker's computer. It is distributed across many hosts commonly called 'zombies'.
2. The attack does not require that a connection is established, and does not require any response to packets sent to the target. This means that the source IP addresses of all the packets sent to the target can be spoofed.

I once read somewhere that you can trace spoofed packets back to the host that sent them by figuring out what routers the packet traversed on it's journey to the target, but I have no idea how one might actually accomplish that. If anyone knows, I'd be interested to hear about it.
August 30, 2004, 5:33 AM
Myndfyr
Or, in a reflexive attack, the SYN packet of a SYN, SYN/ACK, ACK connection sequence is sent with a spoofed IP in the headers to many different high-bandwidth reflection servers. These servers in turn send the SYN/ACK traffic to the IP address (the spoof) which is the target machine, and they'll keep doing it until a timeout, because they think that a connection is being initiated. But, when a machine receives a SYN/ACK packet without having first sent SYN, it discards the packet and never responds.
August 30, 2004, 9:02 AM
iago
[quote author=Warrior link=board=17;threadid=8429;start=15#msg77986 date=1093797206]
Possible Legal Actions ? I mean doesn't this Server cost money to run and him just crashing the service with a DoS attack isn't it illegal?
[/quote]

I was talking to Arta a couple days ago about potential legal action that can be taken. The problem is, the laws for the Internet are pretty slack, and it is generally very difficult to do anything. We'd have to get his identity, link him to the bots, and prove that money was lost as a result. Doing that is basically impossible.

To whoever said to pull the network cable -- that's basically what they did, in a way.
August 30, 2004, 11:45 AM
TangoFour
[quote author=LizArD link=board=17;threadid=8429;start=15#msg78038 date=1093817191]
oh no, someone acted like a smartass on me :'(

if they're DDoS'ing you I have a feeling you can get their IP somehow, maybe contact their ISP? maybe get their ISP to ban them? I dont know.
[/quote]

The first D in DDoS stands for "distributed" - which means the attacker isn't using his own IP address, but several - read Arta's post for a more detailed description.

[quote]To whoever said to pull the network cable -- that's basically what they did, in a way.[/quote]

Crude but effective
August 30, 2004, 12:47 PM

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