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Money.

Money.

Money.

Money.

Money

Both?

Falcon, read: Money or fame?

Neither.

[quote author=Newby link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=0#msg76709 date=1093143984]
Falcon, read: Money or fame?
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If you have one, then you also have the other.

real useful to reply with your poll response.

Money.

I posted because mine wasn't on the poll. :P

A huge penis - 12-15 inches

Money or fame?
True.

[quote author=Falcon[anti-yL] link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=0#msg76723 date=1093148528]
[quote author=Newby link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=0#msg76709 date=1093143984]
Falcon, read: Money or fame?
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If you have one, then you also have the other.
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That's not true. Lots of people have fame but not money. Not sure of a good example right now.. Perhaps Mike Tyson? Or Ted Bundy?

If you have money, you can probably get fame if you like, but having fame there's no guarantee that you can get money for it.

Mike Tyson doesn't have money?

Heh, nevermind I found this while looking to see if he was broke. I don't really watch the news though. It's kinda sad that he made an average of $10 million dollars a fight and he's broke now...
[quote]That is only slightly better than the average purse Tyson has drawn in Nevada. According to athletic commission records, Tyson has earned $169.55 million in 16 fights in the state since 1986. That's an average of $10.6 million per fight.[/quote]
http://www.happinessonline.org/MoralCode/RoleModel/p6.htm

[quote author=Adron link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=15#msg76765 date=1093169602]
If you have money, you can probably get fame if you like, but having fame there's no guarantee that you can get money for it.
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People like to see Famous People, so companys will pay famous people to star in their commercials or be spokespeople for them.

[quote author=j0k3r link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=15#msg76773 date=1093179103]
[quote author=Adron link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=15#msg76765 date=1093169602]
If you have money, you can probably get fame if you like, but having fame there's no guarantee that you can get money for it.
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People like to see Famous People, so companys will pay famous people to star in their commercials or be spokespeople for them.
[/quote]

There's absolutely no guarantee for that. Look at the examples I mentioned, as far as I know, not wealthy people.

[quote author=jigsaw link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=0#msg76747 date=1093160297]
A huge penis - 12-15 inches
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[quote author=iago link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=0#msg76752 date=1093160930]
Money or fame?
True.
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You both rock <3

Money. And I'd use it to get fame!

[quote author=Adron link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=15#msg76780 date=1093185112]
There's absolutely no guarantee for that. Look at the examples I mentioned, as far as I know, not wealthy people.
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I see no examples. If you're talking about money = fame that's not necessarily true either, depending on your definition of money and fame. You have to be among the top 50 richest people to get recognized just for being rich.

[quote author=j0k3r link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=15#msg76808 date=1093194438]
[quote author=Adron link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=15#msg76780 date=1093185112]
There's absolutely no guarantee for that. Look at the examples I mentioned, as far as I know, not wealthy people.
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I see no examples. If you're talking about money = fame that's not necessarily true either, depending on your definition of money and fame. You have to be among the top 50 richest people to get recognized just for being rich.
[/quote]

I'm talking about "Mike Tyson" and "Ted Bundy", whom I mentioned as examples of famous (or infamous) people lacking "lots of money".

I didn't invent that joke:

[14:31:44] Ron: Is there a good public Biginteger, or did you guys write your own?
[14:32:30] Yoni @ ALSA!: yes, there is a good public biginteger, or us guys wrote our own

Ah, well you're picking on the few individuals who mess it up for themselves. There are always exceptions, just because you have money doens't mean you can get fame. I can't give any examples, because then my examples would be wrong :P

[quote author=j0k3r link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=15#msg76858 date=1093204938]
Ah, well you're picking on the few individuals who mess it up for themselves. There are always exceptions, just because you have money doens't mean you can get fame. I can't give any examples, because then my examples would be wrong :P
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Haha, well, you're not convincing me ;)

I think anyone that has money can buy fame, but fame doesn't always sell. Particularly, a lot of our female athletes are pretty well known, yet don't get loads of money for their trouble.

[quote author=Adron link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=15#msg76868 date=1093208938]
[quote author=j0k3r link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=15#msg76858 date=1093204938]
Ah, well you're picking on the few individuals who mess it up for themselves. There are always exceptions, just because you have money doens't mean you can get fame. I can't give any examples, because then my examples would be wrong :P
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Haha, well, you're not convincing me ;)

I think anyone that has money can buy fame, but fame doesn't always sell. Particularly, a lot of our female athletes are pretty well known, yet don't get loads of money for their trouble.
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And the ones that do are called "sell outs" :)

To use the "Board Game of Life" ratings, there are 3 things: fame, fortune, and happiness. Personally, I prefer happiness over the others. Right now I don't have enough money (enough to live off of and buy neat stuff), I'm not that famous (just within my group of friends, on and offline), and I'm very happy (life is good). So I think that's the most important thing.

Money. I'd use it to get stuff, and fame.

Who the hell wants fame? Not even famous people want it. They want the money, and despise the publicity.

[quote author=Grok link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=15#msg76952 date=1093234655]
Who the hell wants fame?
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Exactly my words. I was thinking "Who the hell would waste money for publicity? They'll fake stories about you, invade your privacy, all so they can get promoted at their jobs.". :/

To me there are different kinds of fame. "stardom" fame which includes movie/pop stars and such, these people tend to have lots of dirt dug up on them and are covered in tabloids/talk radio or such. Then there is "fake" fame in which the person is mostly known because they are covered in the news media, examples would be mark hacking, scott peterson, bush, kerry, most politicians. Finally you have what id call real fame, people who are known by a large group of people for something good/bad that they have done that wasn't "made a story" out of by the news media. Examples for this to me would include Bill Gates, Linus Torvalds, the olympians of your country who won/lost and didn't use drugs.
Anyways id go for the money.

[quote]Bill Gates, Linus Torvalds
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Bill Gates is famous because he's rich. If he didn't have such a strangle hold on the market, he wouldn't be famous.

Linus Torvalds, on the other hand, made some fantastic contributions to the world. He did a lot of work, and never asked for anything in return. He's the closest to a Hero that I have.

Other names that come to mind are Dennis Ritchie and Richard Stallman.

[quote author=iago link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=30#msg76970 date=1093246872]
[quote]Bill Gates, Linus Torvalds
[/quote]

Bill Gates is famous because he's rich. If he didn't have such a strangle hold on the market, he wouldn't be famous.

Linus Torvalds, on the other hand, made some fantastic contributions to the world. He did a lot of work, and never asked for anything in return. He's the closest to a Hero that I have.

Other names that come to mind are Dennis Ritchie and Richard Stallman.
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Bill Gates has "public" fame.
Linus Torvalds, Dennis Ritchie and Richard Stallman only have "geek" fame. An average person has never heard of any of them (especially the last two).

And yes, this is probably because Bill Gates is "rich" famous.

[quote author=Yoni link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=30#msg76984 date=1093263149]
Bill Gates has "public" fame.
Linus Torvalds, Dennis Ritchie and Richard Stallman only have "geek" fame. An average person has never heard of any of them (especially the last two).

And yes, this is probably because Bill Gates is "rich" famous.
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That's very similar to sports heroes. There's all kinds of great heroes in sports, that I've never heard of.

I would imagine it's like that in every field. There are people who are famous, for what they do, and others who do it know about them.

If I had to pin the lable of "hero" on sombody I believe it would have to be either Eisenhower or Lance Armstrong.

[quote author=Hazard link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=30#msg77086 date=1093311162]
If I had to pin the lable of "hero" on sombody I believe it would have to be either Eisenhower or Lance Armstrong.
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Muhammed Ali.
John Elway.

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[quote author=Hazard link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=30#msg77086 date=1093311162]
If I had to pin the lable of "hero" on sombody I believe it would have to be either Eisenhower or Lance Armstrong.
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Muhammed Ali.
John Elway.

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Matt Groening
William Shatner

(kidding, of course)

[quote author=iago link=board=35;threadid=8295;start=30#msg77125 date=1093335803]
Matt Groening
[s]William Shatner[/s]
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Not kidding :P

Money -> Fame.

Although you need to have a lot of money.

I love your signature SNiFFeR.