Heres a breif conversation, just to help get the point out. Naturally, I underlined a couple key lines.

[23:54:59] SuJaK joined the channel using Starcraft: Brood War (16 wins).
[23:55:00] <SuJaK> SKywing are you there?
[23:55:04] <Hostile[vL]> Yes
[23:55:08] <SuJaK> He is?
[23:55:11] <Hostile[vL]> I am
[23:55:13] <SuJaK> o sorry
[23:55:19] <SuJaK> Skywing can i join?
[23:55:27] Software joined the channel using Starcraft: Brood War (2170 wins, ladder rating #1361, highest ladder rating #1361).
[23:55:33] <Hostile[vL]> How old are you sujak
[23:55:37] <SuJaK> 15...
[u][23:55:52] <Hostile[vL]> come back when youre 18 or as smart as yoni[/u]
[23:56:00] <SuJaK> Ouch...
[23:56:07] <SuJaK> 18 sc will be dead
[23:56:13] <SuJaK> how smart is Yoni ?
[23:56:33] <Hostile[vL]> people said sc would be dead 3 years ago too
[23:56:39] <Hostile[vL]> but it isnt is it
[23:56:48] <SuJaK> Users are down to 57k
[u][23:56:58] <SuJaK> But by the time im 18 ill already know how to program.[/u]
[23:56:59] <Hostile[vL]> and yoni is estimated to be 100 times smarter than you are
[23:57:07] <SuJaK> Really?
[23:57:11] <SuJaK> I find that hard to belive...
[23:57:13] Software left the channel.
[23:57:28] <Hostile[vL]> Thats the point, so hence come back when you know how to program
[23:57:36] <SuJaK> Okay
[23:57:38] <Hostile[vL]> :p
[23:57:41] <SuJaK> I just wanted to join to get helped
[23:57:45] <SuJaK> and not banned.. when i ask question
[23:57:46] <SuJaK> bye bye
[23:57:48] SuJaK left the channel.
[23:58:15] <Hostile[vL]> ... I'm glad he admitted that, I would've never guessed that why he wanted to join.

[quote author=Hostile link=board=2;threadid=7148;start=0#msg64093 date=1086670929][23:58:15] <Hostile[vL]> ... I'm glad he admitted that, I would've never guessed that why he wanted to join.[/quote]

I never would have thought that they would let somebody into their clan that makes typos while posting a subtle flame. Good job, asshole, you sure showed him. Want to know who I thought this post was making fun of? You.

[quote author=warz link=board=2;threadid=7148;start=0#msg64099 date=1086676136]
[quote author=Hostile link=board=2;threadid=7148;start=0#msg64093 date=1086670929][23:58:15] <Hostile[vL]> ... I'm glad he admitted that, I would've never guessed that why he wanted to join.[/quote]

I never would have thought that they would let somebody into their clan that makes typos while posting a subtle flame. Good job, asshole, you sure showed him. Want to know who I thought this post was making fun of? You.
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But you're not vL, so you don't see the joke. This was funny. Funny because it's a typical example of the wrong reasons for trying to join, something that happens far too often. The fun lies in recognizing and saying "ah, yes, that's the way they all are....".

We want people who add to the clan. Saying that you want to join so you can get free help and ask questions without any risk of getting banned is not the way to go. I thought that would be obvious if you knew vL. But I suppose that guy didn't.

I'm not in vL and I recognized that Adron. ;D

The same goes for getting a job in the real world. When they ask you what you why they should hire you, you don't say "So I can learn ... whatever". That's definately part of it, but you want to tell them what you have to offer them. "Hard worker" sounds a lot better than "willing to learn".

[quote author=Hostile link=board=2;threadid=7148;start=0#msg64093 date=1086670929]
[23:56:59] <Hostile[vL]> and yoni is estimated to be 100 times smarter than you are
[23:57:07] <SuJaK> Really?
[23:57:11] <SuJaK> I find that hard to belive...
[/quote]
More than 100x.

[quote author=Falcon[anti-yL] link=board=2;threadid=7148;start=0#msg64236 date=1086734582]
[quote author=Hostile link=board=2;threadid=7148;start=0#msg64093 date=1086670929]
[23:56:59] <Hostile[vL]> and yoni is estimated to be 100 times smarter than you are
[23:57:07] <SuJaK> Really?
[23:57:11] <SuJaK> I find that hard to belive...
[/quote]
More than 100x.
[/quote]

Good job, way to suck up!

[quote author=warz link=board=2;threadid=7148;start=0#msg64099 date=1086676136]
[quote author=Hostile link=board=2;threadid=7148;start=0#msg64093 date=1086670929][23:58:15] <Hostile[vL]> ... I'm glad he admitted that, I would've never guessed that why he wanted to join.[/quote]

I never would have thought that they would let somebody into their clan that makes typos while posting a subtle flame. Good job, asshole, you sure showed him. Want to know who I thought this post was making fun of? You.
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What? I forgot the word "is" between that and why? I've seen you make worse, so check yo self bitch.

I see a fight coming. Time for the "OOOOOOOOO" "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" and the "you gonna let him say that to you?"

What about the ever popular, "you got served!"

No need to dance back. I've got him in check.

or "you took it!" :P

as far as I can see, people DO try to join vL for the wrong reason. it's a bunch of programmers / techies / funny people, and people want their source, their help, etc...

I pester Skywing with my dumbass questions enough--dont need membership in vL for that ;)

As for source--why would you need it? write your own, or ask for it--if you're a member, you're probably capable of writing the program on your own...

I stick around 'cause you folks crack me up... This thread especially because it's so damn true. And, to be honest, I'm not gonna ask outright to join--if I get an invitation, fine, but the reasons I'd want to join are that I know everyone here, am friends with everyone, and they all are nagging me to...

Too many damn americans think there has to be gain from everything. (If you don't follow this philosophy and are american, dont take offense... but it's a trend I've seen everywhere here... I don't know how it is outside of the US 'cause I'm a sheltered nose.)

[quote author=warz link=board=2;threadid=7148;start=0#msg64300 date=1086758119]
No need to dance back. I've got him in check.
[/quote]

Thats pathetic... I'm surprised I didn't get an, "I know you are but what am I?!"

Flame and flame alike. (Is this a flame too?)

Round an round we go...

[quote author=Hostile link=board=2;threadid=7148;start=0#msg64350 date=1086801719]
[quote author=warz link=board=2;threadid=7148;start=0#msg64300 date=1086758119]
No need to dance back. I've got him in check.
[/quote]

Thats pathetic... I'm surprised I didn't get an, "I know you are but what am I?!"
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He'll just keep digging for it until he gets something out of me that he can poke at. Too bad, Hostile. Get on my level.

What level is that? The level where you flame me for forgetting a two letter word and try to act cool about it? You could just leave our forums, or for that matter we could get rid of you since you are and always have been useless.