For my English final I have to debate on random drug testing. I'm not sure what role I'll take in the debate yet (attacker, stater, defender, etc.). Anyways, I was just wondering if any people here have been randomly tested (whether an athlete or not) and wouldn't mind either explaining the process, what happened, and how you felt about it by reply, forum PM, instant message, e-mail, etc. It would be helpful so that I can use examples in my debate. Also, it'd be helpful of you make some explanations on your view/stand-point on the subject.

Thanks!

I think it depends on whether or not a) you do drugs and b) if you know that you might be, at some point, tested.

Since I don't do drugs (and I have a feeling that this might turn into a debate about this -- let's try not to do that again), I have no problem with it.

I was randomly drug tested at my school by probation officers last year. They sit at the table outside the main office and randomly pick out people and give them a cup and make them go to the bathroom and piss in it(yes they watch you do it). Then they ask you if you've ever done drugs and they usually look at your eyes and the spores on your tongue at this time because your eyes turns red and the spores on your tongue gets larger when you're high. After the questioning they stick a reader thing into the cup and make you stand there and they start to explain about what a line across THC or other stuff means and what no line means. After the five minutes it takes to do that they look at the results and if it turns out negative then they escort you to your class. If it turns out positive, they take you to the principal's office and give you a ticket for public intoxication. In our school district if you're charged with public intoxication at school you will have to attend an alternative school for the remaining of that semester or at least 50 days. I don't really mind them because I don't do drugs, I hope this helps you and good luck on your final. :)

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I was randomly drug tested at my school by probation officers last year. They sit at the table outside the main office and randomly pick out people and give them a cup and make them go to the bathroom and piss in it(yes they watch you do it). Then they ask you if you've ever done drugs and they usually look at your eyes and the spores on your tongue at this time because your eyes turns red and the spores on your tongue gets larger when you're high. After the questioning they stick a reader thing into the cup and make you stand there and they start to explain about what a line across THC or other stuff means and what no line means. After the five minutes it takes to do that they look at the results and if it turns out negative then they escort you to your class. If it turns out positive, they take you to the principal's office and give you a ticket for public intoxication. In our school district if you're charged with public intoxication at school you will have to attend an alternative school for the remaining of that semester or at least 50 days. I don't really mind them because I don't do drugs, I hope this helps you and good luck on your final. :)
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More help than a lot of the pointless crap on the internet. Thanks. :)

Just because you have THC in your system doesn't mean you're intoxicated. How can that be classified as 'Public Intoxication?' THC stays in your system for roughly 30 days, and the effects don't _fully_ go away ~3 days iirc. All that test proves is that you've done x drug in the last y days. And when you say watch you pee in the cup, do they actually...fully watch or can you at least turn around? :P

I have no idea why its classified as public intoxication and no, they just stand at the door and make sure you don't fill the cup with half water. ;D

do they let you go into a stall? They could put toilet water in the cup :p.

I didn't get to go in a stall :o, and toilet water? ewww :P

If I did drugs and was being tested I would do whatever it took to not be caught, even if it meant sticking my hand in a toilet.

Be for it - I so wish they did that at my school on the sports teams.. I can't stand all the kids who drink/smoke on the baseball team - if theyu gave random drug test, there would be about 5 left out of the 18 on the team and i'd be one of them who's left

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=0#msg61795 date=1085513050]
If I did drugs and was being tested I would do whatever it took to not be caught, even if it meant sticking my hand in a toilet.
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What about your head? In a soiled toilet?

My school does tests for varisty sports, but I know for a fact that if they did _random_, like LW's school, there would be a hell of alot of kids in trouble.

Kids should be not doing drugs because they're worried about their body or some other reason, though, not fear of being caught. It's just like spanking a child - ask a kid why they shouldn't yell and scream at the store, and they might say because they get spanked (or even punished) if they do. So in a way, random drugs tests might force less people to do drugs, but it wouldn't be for the right reasons.

It's just like stealing -- "Why don't you steal?" "Because if I get caught I'm in trouble" -- that's totally the wrong reason. "Why don't you steal?" "Because it's a sin" -- that's also the wrong reason. You shouldn't steal because it's morally wrong. If I stole anything (I never have, but that's besides the point), I would feel terrible knowing that somebody else has lost something because of me.

I lost my point somewhere, but hopefully I said something useful there :)

I am personally against random drugs test, and drug test in general. I can understand a place of buisness doing a drugtest to see if a worker is comptent and reliable, but after that if they are doing a good job who cares if they are doing drugs?

As for the school scenario that is ridcoulous, unless it is a private school I consider a drug test a violation of my privacy, what buisness does the school have knowing what drugs I use.

Because drugs are illegal.

[quote author=Forged link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=0#msg61815 date=1085516400]
I am personally against random drugs test, and drug test in general. I can understand a place of buisness doing a drugtest to see if a worker is comptent and reliable, but after that if they are doing a good job who cares if they are doing drugs?

As for the school scenario that is ridcoulous, unless it is a private school I consider a drug test a violation of my privacy, what buisness does the school have knowing what drugs I use.
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Typically drug testing is done to athletes only. I think it's a federal violation of public schools to drug test someone who is not taking part of a non-required public school function, such as sports.

I think it is as well Mephisto, unless you're in private school it's invasion of privacy. I could be wrong though... :-\

I don't go to a private school, maybe its different in different school districts?

[quote author=Falcon[anti-yL] link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=15#msg61826 date=1085517924]
I don't go to a private school, maybe its different in different school districts?
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I don't know. At first I thought your school system was violating your constituional right, however then I started to realize that the right to privacy may not be protected while in a Government building (school) since random searches are legal and such..for the safety of the whole.

I think his doing drugs is not a direct threat to the school district unless he is intoxicated at that moment. I assume if someone really felt like it the school district could get in trouble for it.

My school doesn't drug test our athletes because our coaches like to win :P

[quote]Because drugs are illegal. [/quote]

Your point? The school is not my babysitter, it is not their job to see if I do drugs.

My point is you can't get away with stuff just by saying "Its none of your business." And explain to me how people that do drugs perform better than people that don't in sports?

[quote author=Falcon[anti-yL] link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=15#msg61835 date=1085520443]
My point is you can't get away with stuff just by saying "Its none of your business." And explain to me how people that do drugs perform better than people that don't in sports?
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When they talk about drug testing in sports, they're not talking about recreational drugs; they're talking about various forms of steroids or performance enhancing stimulants, etc.

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[quote author=Falcon[anti-yL] link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=15#msg61835 date=1085520443]
My point is you can't get away with stuff just by saying "Its none of your business." And explain to me how people that do drugs perform better than people that don't in sports?
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When they talk about drug testing in sports, they're not talking about recreational drugs; they're talking about various forms of steroids or performance enhancing stimulants, etc.
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In our school they kick people off of the teams or ban them from their current non-required activities if they test positive for any drugs such as marijuana...

Steroids are for lazy people that don't work out.

I was just thinking about this today.

I wouldn't bother doing the test, I'd go right ahead and tell them what they'd find. This recent weekend was a long weekend for canadians, and I did do some "naughty" things. Whenever I work out, I take a supplement (not a steroid, but whatever).

What I do on my own time and the choices I make are none of their concern. If I was so incapable of making decisions that the government had to make them for me, I would belong in a "special care" center.

[quote author=Falcon[anti-yL] link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=15#msg61844 date=1085521467]
Steroids are for lazy people that don't work out.
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Yeah, cause popping steroids and then watching TV is going to make you huge.

[quote] And explain to me how people that do drugs perform better than people that don't in sports? [/quote]
I never said it did, but that doesn''t mean that altheletes don't do drugs...

[quote]Steroids are for lazy people that don't work out. [/quote]

You obviouslly have no concept of how they work...

Forged, if you want to beef up all you have to do is buckle down and work hard. Steroids are for pussies.

The fact is if you have nothing to hide, you have no real reason to object.

Sort of what Hazard said.

They should be required, I mean if you aren't a drug user, there's nothing to worry about. It's fun to get out of class for 10-15 minutes and have to piss in a cup. :)

[quote author=Newby[yL] link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=15#msg61883 date=1085536589]
Sort of what Hazard said.

They should be required, I mean if you aren't a drug user, there's nothing to worry about. It's fun to get out of class for 10-15 minutes and have to piss in a cup. :)
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It shouldn't take you 10-15 minutes to piss in a cup.

If you had to wait in line with your entire class and got in the back it would. :)

I doubt a random test would get your entire class.

[quote]Forged, if you want to beef up all you have to do is buckle down and work hard. Steroids are for pussies.[/quote]

I don't use steroids or support their use. All I was saying is it takes a little more than just baning a fat steroid shot and sitting on your ass for them to be effective.

[quote]The fact is if you have nothing to hide, you have no real reason to object. [/quote]

I guard my privacy closelly, that and as a drug user I really don't see why it is my schools buisness to see what I do on the weekends.

[quote author=Forged link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=15#msg61834 date=1085519943]
Your point? The school is not my babysitter, it is not their job to see if I do drugs.
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Of course, 5 years from now when you're a crackhead who can't get a job, you'll go whining to the unemployment office, begging for some welfare check that I'll have to pay for because you're the ass who decided that it's not anyone's business but yours if you do drugs.

I know this because my aunt was a crackhead. Literally.

There ought to be accountability somewhere. Ideally it would be the parents. But if I'm going to have to pay anyway, I'd rather them stop you from taking drugs in the first place than foot your welfare bill for the rest of your understandably short life.

So smoking pot and doing the occasional tab or line makes me a fucking crackhead who will never get a job...

What ever floats your boat guy.

According to WebMD pot makes you smarter, when used in moderation (less than 5 joints a week will raise your IQ roughly 5.8 points.) However, when abused (greater than 5 joints/week) it drops about 3.2ish points. There's also no proof that pot is a gateway drug, meaning it's not a truthful statement that he'll 100% become a crackhead. The THC when it binds to the receptors is beleived to condition them, possibly preparing it for harder drugs..but it's not proven. It's beleived that Marijuana is just used first since it's easier to get for most kids than say heroin or cocaine. So, saying that he'll never get a job etc. is a bit of a stretch but doing it certainly doesn't help. (just a few things I learned while writing a paper. ;D)

I'm 18 I started smoking pot when I was 12, if I wanted crack I could get it. If I was going to become a crackhead it would have happend by now...

You probably have wasted alot of your money on pot I'm guessing?

hmm, the idea of it being a gateway drug is interesting. I was talking to somebody on IRC recently who mentioned that most people start smoking weed while drunk -- so is alcohol actually the gateway drug that should be banned?

I have a family member (indirectly, confusing relationship) that lived with my dad for awhile, and he had serious druge problems. I got him a job at a great place where I worked, and he ended up totally fucked it up because of getting stoned. It made me look really bad, and he can go to hell.

But back to the point of schools being babysitters - it seems to me that they are. They look after you for 6 to 8 hours a day for most of the week - if they let you do anything you wanted, there would be problems. It seems like they should have some responsibility for what happens to you, seeing as though your parents entrust you to them for the better part of your teenage life.

And back to my original point -- the reason schools do drug tests and suspend people for doing drugs is to scare them. People shouldn't not do drugs because they're scared to do them, just like you shouldn't break other laws, not for fear of punishment but because it's the right thing to do. I'm perfectly happy without drugs, and I don't see how others can't be.

[quote author=Falcon[anti-yL] link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=30#msg61910 date=1085542508]
You probably have wasted alot of your money on pot I'm guessing?
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Yeah, but I would have waisted it on something else anyway...

random drug tests suck. alcohol generally does lead to smoking weed, if weed is readily offered while you're drunk. smoking weed doesnt turn you into a crack head. smoking weed doesn't eliminate all good job opportunities. i dont think weed is even addicting (IMO). now i hear yayo if rather addicting, but ive never tried it, so i wouldnt know.

The schools aren't using the test to help kids out it seems. They are just taking the kids who smoke pot and sticking them with other kids who smoke pot or other drugs. Which is giving the kids easier access to the drugs that really screw their life up. They need to keep the kids in a regular school and try to educate them instead of pushing them to the side.
To the kids who are writing a few lines or a little E wont hurt me don't be stupid. One line of cocaine might not be digging to deep of a hole for you because it might not be the drug for you, but once you try some crystal or some heroin it'll probably suck you in.
Oh well tweak fucked up a good part of my life I started smokin pot at 10 and crystal at 15. When I was 18 I was smokin a ball a day and me and a friend jacked a car. He shot the owner of the car and I ended up going through two years of trial, five grand on a lawyer, and five years probation that I've finished 2.5 years of. O well I guess the point is don't think the drugs won't fuck your life up.

[quote author=warz link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=30#msg61933 date=1085547492]
random drug tests suck. alcohol generally does lead to smoking weed, if weed is readily offered while you're drunk. smoking weed doesnt turn you into a crack head. smoking weed doesn't eliminate all good job opportunities. i dont think weed is even addicting (IMO). now i hear yayo if rather addicting, but ive never tried it, so i wouldnt know.
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llello :P. It can be addicting, but my friends who do it will either binge on it and be sick of it for a month or so or use it recreationally, not habitually.

You get a physical dependence if you use it too mcuh, but not if it's used in moderation. Or so I've read...

About the alcohol thing: Yes, and most crimes commited that have been by a person under the influence of marijuana happened while the person was also under the influence of alcohol/some other drug.

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[quote author=Falcon[anti-yL] link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=30#msg61910 date=1085542508]
You probably have wasted alot of your money on pot I'm guessing?
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Yeah, but I would have waisted it on something else anyway...
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I've saved my money and used it on stuff like university, computer, etc.


Somebody was saying somewhere else here that, although weed isn't addicting, people get addicted to the feeling of being high. *shrug*

[quote]I've saved my money and used it on stuff like university, computer, etc.[/quote]

My parents bought me my car, and are going to pay for my college...
I have a job so if I actually need something I cam buy that instead of drugs...

[quote]Somebody was saying somewhere else here that, although weed isn't addicting, people get addicted to the feeling of being high. *shrug* [/quote]

Yeah.

[quote author=Forged link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=45#msg61963 date=1085574179]
[quote]I've saved my money and used it on stuff like university, computer, etc.[/quote]

My parents bought me my car, and are going to pay for my college...
I have a job so if I actually need something I cam buy that instead of drugs...
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My parents couldn't afford either, so I'm on my own in terms of finances. I get to live with them, and they buy me food, but that's where it ends. I've paid for 100% of my university so far (about $3000/year) on my own.

The way my friend explained the 'addicted to the high feeling' is way simple, yet makes sense.

The little endorphine producers normally produce endorphine & it travels to the endorphine receptors, which eventually sends it back, or something of the sort that it gets reused. What pot does is kills some of the producers (IIRC) so that from doing that same amount of weed, you'll never be that high ever again. Eventually you have to be *high* just to be normal.

I don't believe that's right.

It is right. If you use too much you have to go to bigger drugs ti get the same high as when you started. I dont use drugs but thats what I have been told.

Woah woah, not bigger DRUGS, bigger AMOUNTS.

You don't start bumping heroin cause you want the high you got when you smoked pot.

That wont always work. How do you think people go on to heroin and stuff. Because Pot doesnt work for them any more.l

...which makes it a 'gateway' drug.

Exactley. I "Had" a friend who was really clever, then oneday he smoked some pot and now i dont know what he on. I talk to him when I see him but scince he started using I havnt hung out with him.

[quote author=The-Rabid-Lord link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=45#msg61979 date=1085593477]
That wont always work. How do you think people go on to heroin and stuff. Because Pot doesnt work for them any more.l
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No, it's because once they smoked pot they became horrible drug crazed fiends who are going to hell and/or prison. Your "facts" seem awfully like you got them from a middle school drug scare class.

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[quote author=The-Rabid-Lord link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=45#msg61979 date=1085593477]
That wont always work. How do you think people go on to heroin and stuff. Because Pot doesnt work for them any more.l
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No, it's because once they smoked pot they became horrible drug crazed fiends who are going to hell and/or prison. Your "facts" seem awfully like you got them from a middle school drug scare class.
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Yes but off of a guy who did drugs.

[quote author=K link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=45#msg61987 date=1085594796]
[quote author=The-Rabid-Lord link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=45#msg61979 date=1085593477]
That wont always work. How do you think people go on to heroin and stuff. Because Pot doesnt work for them any more.l
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No, it's because once they smoked pot they became horrible drug crazed fiends who are going to hell and/or prison. Your "facts" seem awfully like you got them from a middle school drug scare class.
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I didn't get mine there, I failed my middle school drug test

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=30#msg61901 date=1085540196]
According to WebMD pot makes you smarter, when used in moderation (less than 5 joints a week will raise your IQ roughly 5.8 points.) [/quote]
According to recent developments we have determined that people who inhale car exhaust on a regular basis(although don't abuse it!) are 5 times less likley to have cancer!

All joking aside, people who don't abuse drugs (as much) are generally smarter to start with.

Could this be the chicken/egg paradox? Maybe people aren't dumb because they do drugs, but they're dumb so they do drugs! :)

Smoking weed builds a tolerance. I wouldn't say weed is addicting, unless its killer shit and you really never felt a high like that before. I've done weed before, a couple months back. It wasn't addicting at all, I plan to go to Canada over the summer and do it again (good shit down in BC and its cheaper plus my cousins get hooked up.) Although, I think cigge's are real bad, there addicting. If you are a person in control, doing drugs such as Weed or even drinking wont mess you up.

In a usual joint you add tobacco to it, so it is addicting.

But then you're addicted to nicotine, not the weed.

But you also like the high so its just a circle.

[quote author=The-Rabid-Lord link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=60#msg62114 date=1085646041]
In a usual joint you add tobacco to it, so it is addicting.
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I have never added tobbaco to a joint, and never met anyone who has...

What kind of pot do you but in it. The resin or skunk. It should have tobbaco in it to hold it together.

[quote author=The-Rabid-Lord link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=60#msg62114 date=1085646041]
In a usual joint you add tobacco to it, so it is addicting.
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Let's see... No? By that comment I'm guessing you've never actually smoked//been around weed in your life. Adding tobacco to a joint? That's retarded. I've never heard of anyone doing that.

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[quote author=The-Rabid-Lord link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=60#msg62114 date=1085646041]
In a usual joint you add tobacco to it, so it is addicting.
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Let's see... No? By that comment I'm guessing you've never actually smoked//been around weed in your life. Adding tobacco to a joint? That's retarded. I've never heard of anyone doing that.
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I've heard of that before, and I'm sure there's a good reason for it. Perhaps they just like tobacco? :)

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[quote author=The-Rabid-Lord link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=60#msg62114 date=1085646041]
In a usual joint you add tobacco to it, so it is addicting.
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Let's see... No? By that comment I'm guessing you've never actually smoked//been around weed in your life. Adding tobacco to a joint? That's retarded. I've never heard of anyone doing that.
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Yes I have. Kids smoke it on the school bus and I hang around people whove done it and all of them put tobacco in it. If you want me to tell you in detail how to make a joint I will.

Kids that smoke on the school bus are just asking to get a ticket.

Its good cos u get a small high without much risk :P

I use to add tabacco to my joints. Then I realized:

I could just smoke a joint, and then smoke a cigarette. Saves me time..

All of you people saying that nobody adds tobacco to joints need to experience some new ways to smoke, man. You're all telling me youve never smoked a good blunt? My favorite ones are hollowed out cigars with the pot in them. So it is tobacco and weed. If you do want to try, I suggest swisher sweets. Theyre cheap and tasty.

I have been toled this is good. Get a cigar dip the end in brandy and then in weed. It is meant to be cool.

If you wanna get really stoned in a few hits get red devil.

Let's think.

#1: Smoking a mix of tobacco and marijuana will get you addicted.

Maybe... to tobacco. That doesn't mean marijuana is (physically) addictive. I have a lot of major stoner friends; some of them smoke (cigarettes), a lot of them don't. And I've never heard or seen any of them mix tobacco in with marijuana.

#2: Blunts:

When you hollow out your favorite cigar (black and mild, swisher sweet, whatever), you're hollowing it out. That's taking the tobacco out. It still tastes/smells like the cigar because of the paper. Trust me, I've seen enough people make blunts to know.

#3: Topic:

This topic sucks.

[quote]What kind of pot do you but in it. The resin or skunk. It should have tobbaco in it to hold it together. [/quote]
Resin is already smoked pot, and skunk is a type of pot. Pot doesn't need anything to hold it together. Maybe you are talking about a secret agent which is a cigerate with pot in it to mask the smell...

resin isnt already smoked pot. already smoked pot= ashes.

All of my Pot head friends put tobbaco in to hold the joint together. I have never hered of a joint without tobbacco.

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resin isnt already smoked pot. already smoked pot= ashes.
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It is the resido left over after you smoke.
There for it is already smoked pot.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=resin
[quote]used principally in lacquers, varnishes, inks, adhesives, synthetic plastics, and pharmaceuticals.[/quote]
eww....?

It is also like rosin, which is used to make surfaces slicker...like a string instrument's bow

You're better off at Urban Dictionary

[quote]the greasy build-up on that forms on the inner surfaces of weed paraphernalia after smoking. It can be scraped off and smoked as if it were hash. smoking resin is not as good as hash though, and this frugal practice is looked down on in some circles as being ghetto, or the last resort of a kid with no weed.[/quote]

lol, that definition makes more sense, but is funny?...ish

What you do is heat it with a lighter and crumble it onto the tobacco. Thats what you usually get here in Wales.

People in Wales probably don't get nearly as high as people here in Texas, than, if you're smoking a majority of tobacco over pot.

My friend came into an English exam stoned out of his head. He could barley walk. Its quite funny cos he talks weird and thinks everythings cool and amazing, even the fact hes in school :P. Hes a bit like Ozzy Osbourne as he shakes a lot due to drugs except hes only been taking a few months.

[quote author=The-Rabid-Lord link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=45#msg61979 date=1085593477]
That wont always work. How do you think people go on to heroin and stuff. Because Pot doesnt work for them any more.l
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Pardon my french, but that's just a load of bollocks.

[quote author=Arta[vL] link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=75#msg62348 date=1085762364]
Pardon my french, but that's just a load of bollocks.
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How do you say that? People dont just suddenly decide to go on heroin.

[quote author=Arta[vL] link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=75#msg62348 date=1085762364]
[quote author=The-Rabid-Lord link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=45#msg61979 date=1085593477]
That wont always work. How do you think people go on to heroin and stuff. Because Pot doesnt work for them any more.l
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Pardon my french, but that's just a load of bollocks.
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Haha, your english words crack me up :D

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[quote author=Arta[vL] link=board=2;threadid=6953;start=75#msg62348 date=1085762364]
Pardon my french, but that's just a load of bollocks.
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How do you say that? People dont just suddenly decide to go on heroin.
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Really isn't worth arguing about anymore, but...

The reason people do heroin beffundles me, I don't think it is because they smoke weed. I smoke weed and it has never given me the desire to do heroin.

I have seen someone come down from heroin and it wasn't very pretty.

What can be funny about someone going cold turkey? It must be horrible. I like passive blow smoking :D

I think but not sure that if you try and cold turkey heroin you can die.

A come down is not quitting, it is what happens when the high is over.

Ok i didnt read it properly sorry.