http://www.battlecenter.net/sueing.png
http://www.battlecenter.net/sueing2.png

i scanned these because i got these in today

WTF BULLSHIT well see what blizzard thinks of this

You need a life.

Not much you can do now but 'cease and desist'

Common sense leads me to the conclusion you are wrong. I would not doubt if Blizzard is aware of this, but that is beside the point. I don’t think you quite understand what is going on here. You illegally broke into and stole property of vL. I recommend you do what the letter says right away, for your sake.

From my understanding, Grok left a link on a page which shouldn't have been there, and Denial did nothing but click on it?

"Intellectual Property" unless they had a legally registered copyright, that is not going to hold up in court. Make them litigate!
In two days, unless otherwise persuaded, I will submit the source code of "BNLS" to battle.net. Lets see who gets sued then.

You are very incorrect. If they can establish that they were the original authors (which would probably not be incredibly difficult), then that's all they need in court. You seem to not understand copyright law. Registering a patent is not a requirement to hold copyright on something - it is merely a formality which can make it easier to protect one's property.

Is battlecenter.net down? Does anyone have these screenshots uploaded anywhere else?

denial your owned...
GG
maybe thriller can take over for you

[quote author=Noodlez link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=0#msg52915 date=1080778184]
From my understanding, Grok left a link on a page which shouldn't have been there, and Denial did nothing but click on it?
[/quote]

Under our current computer crime laws, if the information was supposed to be protected you have indeed commited a crime. Big senate scandal because some Democrats forgot to password protect their shared folder and republicans were reading party information which they should not have had access to.

Do you think Denial will get a lawyer and try to defend himself, or just listen to what hes told? Even if he did get a lawyer wouldnt his chances be very slim.

Five letters: O W N E D

Sorry Denial, but maybe you shouldn't have mentioned it?

[quote author=Mitosis link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=0#msg52924 date=1080779679]
Do you think Denial will get a lawyer and try to defend himself, or just listen to what hes told? Even if he did get a lawyer wouldnt his chances be very slim.
[/quote]


They wouldn't even be slim.

Everyone that knows anything about copyright laws knows they are being broken. Not only have copyright laws been broken, Denial illegally broke into and stole vL's property.

Just because all he did was click on a link, does not mean it is not illegal. Let's say he would have scanned the site and found a vulnerability that would have allowed him access by some other means. There is no difference, because they are both unintentional ways of gaining access to protected data, hence illegal.

If you guys really think there is no evidence just take a look at these forums. Denial has admitted numerous times to doing it. Some of you may have noticed that the moderators have not erased these posts. Moderators who I might add have done an excellent job of keeping these forums free of these kinds of illegitimate posts. Now why do you think that is?

Do you really think that vL’s BNLS is illegal? Is that why you think it was ok for you to break in and steal their stuff? Why do you think it hasn’t gotten shut down yet? I am sure BNLS is just as popular and well known as some of the other programs out there that have received legal notification from Blizzard.

Once again I think you should take this situation a little more seriously, and do what the letter says. Once you get in the system you stay in the system. I don’t think you want that happening because you decided to be cool one day.

All I have to say is: LMAO!

[quote author=Tuberload link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=0#msg52914 date=1080777212]
Common sense leads me to the conclusion you are wrong. I would not doubt if Blizzard is aware of this, but that is beside the point. I don’t think you quite understand what is going on here. You illegally broke into and stole property of vL. I recommend you do what the letter says right away, for your sake.
[/quote]
I believe Blizzard tolerates BNLS for two reasons: 1.) it is not abused extensively; while there are many, many bots out there that utilize BNLS, vL 1.) doesn't give out the source code, and 2.) reserves the right to discontinue access for users using BNLS bots.

[quote author=DaRk-FeAnOr link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=0#msg52916 date=1080778334]
"Intellectual Property" unless they had a legally registered copyright, that is not going to hold up in court. Make them litigate!
In two days, unless otherwise persuaded, I will submit the source code of "BNLS" to battle.net. Lets see who gets sued then.
[/quote]
No Feanor, you're wrong; intellectual property is protected by The 1978 Copyright Act of the United States.

Copyright is the right to prevent others from copying a work of authorship. "Copyright protection subsists . . . in original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression." 17 U.S.C. §102(a) (emphasis added). To be "original" a work must have been independently created by the author (not copied from a previous work) and must exhibit some minimal degree of creativity. A work is "fixed" if it is in a sufficiently permanent, tangible medium from which the work "can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated." Id.

The owner of a copyright enjoys a number of exclusive rights. The Copyright Act enumerates the following:

[list]
[*]The right "to reproduce the copyrighted work."
[*]The right "to prepare derivative works based upon the copyrighted work."
[*]The right "to distribute copies or phonorecords of the copyrighted work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership."
[*]The right "to perform the copyrighted work publicly."
[*]The right "to display the copyrighted work publicly."
17 U.S.C. §106.
[/list]
Registration
A copyright owner can register his or her copyright in the U.S. Copyright Office at any time during the term of the copyright protection. While copyright protection arises immediately upon the creation and fixation of a copyrightable work (emphasis mine), registration offers a number of benefits (list removed).

http://profs.lp.findlaw.com/infringe/infringe_4.html

Feanor, no, you can't have my C# code for authentication to BNLS since you're being such a jackass. I would highly recommend that you read and investigate before shooting your mouth off again.

Cheers.

well i find this pretty funny

[quote]

[7:08:30 PM] <Wu~En][g(v)a~uW> /whisper yoni[vl] i so want you to sue denial's ass, he is the definition of a immature little prick who's mad at the world cause he got fucked in the ass

[quote][/quote][/quote]

Dear To whom this may concern, I have been informed that i can sue you guys for harrassment if this continues i will counter-sue you for harrassment

[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52939 date=1080782091]
Dear To whom this may concern, I have been informed that i can sue you guys for harrassment if this continues i will counter-sue you for harrassment
[/quote]

Whoop-die doo. You can also counter-sue them for spilling hot coffee on you. Doesn't mean you'll win. :P

[edit]This should be moved to the fun forum ;) [/edit]

Nothing will come of this. A settlement will be reached or a plea will be made and miniscule if any damages will be awarded. I'm suprised you all are getting so worked up over something that is basically a game.

[quote author=Hazard link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52942 date=1080782636]
Nothing will come of this. A settlement will be reached or a plea will be made and miniscule if any damages will be awarded. I'm suprised you all are getting so worked up over something that is basically a game.
[/quote]

Wow, is Hazard being the voice of reason? Is this right?

roflmfao denial

[quote]

Dear To whom this may concern, I have been informed that i can sue you guys for harrassment if this continues i will counter-sue you for harrassment

[/quote]

i have seen you harass the vl members on SEVERAL occasions about there source code and how they are "nerds". Even if you delete your posts, i have taken screenshots! Anyways, what kind of judge would sue someone because they harassed someone who really is what they said you are, your just to stupid to see it?

;)

[quote author=Myndfyre link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52940 date=1080782277]
[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52939 date=1080782091]
Dear To whom this may concern, I have been informed that i can sue you guys for harrassment if this continues i will counter-sue you for harrassment
[/quote]

Whoop-die doo. You can also counter-sue them for spilling hot coffee on you. Doesn't mean you'll win. :P

[/quote]

As stupid as it sounds, he can do it.

And Myndfyre I might point out that it has been done and millions of dollars have been won.

Harrasment? I dont see them making useless post's on your crappy forum

[quote author=iago link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52943 date=1080782728]
[quote author=Hazard link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52942 date=1080782636]
Nothing will come of this. A settlement will be reached or a plea will be made and miniscule if any damages will be awarded. I'm suprised you all are getting so worked up over something that is basically a game.
[/quote]

Wow, is Hazard being the voice of reason? Is this right?
[/quote]

I just call them like I see them.

[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52939 date=1080782091]
Dear To whom this may concern, I have been informed that i can sue you guys for harrassment if this continues i will counter-sue you for harrassment
[/quote]

uh.... harrasment > copyright laws??
not quite buddy. ur screwed

[quote author=Freakez link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52951 date=1080783993]
[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52939 date=1080782091]
Dear To whom this may concern, I have been informed that i can sue you guys for harrassment if this continues i will counter-sue you for harrassment
[/quote]

uh.... harrasment > copyright laws??
not quite buddy. ur screwed
[/quote]
It worked in "American Beauty"

[quote author=BaDDBLooD link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52944 date=1080782742]
i have taken screenshots!
[/quote]

lmao :)

[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52939 date=1080782091]
Dear To whom this may concern, I have been informed that i can sue you guys for harrassment if this continues i will counter-sue you for harrassment
[/quote]
Sue whom? The members of the vL board? That won't do anything to your legal trouble for BNLS. :)

You guys suck unban Denial NOW


YOU GUYS SUCK

[quote author=Freakez link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52951 date=1080783993]
[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52939 date=1080782091]
Dear To whom this may concern, I have been informed that i can sue you guys for harrassment if this continues i will counter-sue you for harrassment
[/quote]

uh.... harrasment > copyright laws??
not quite buddy. ur screwed
[/quote]

Thats not the point. The appearance of inpropriety could sway a judge or, should it escalate, which it wont, a jury.

And your idea is flawed, as far as harassment being less important than copyright laws. For instance, if you are stalking somebody it is probably a little more important than stealing somebody's tomato sauce recipe.

[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52939 date=1080782091]i will counter-sue you for harrassment[/quote]

[quote author=DenialOwnzYou link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52957 date=1080785187]You guys suck unban Denial NOW


YOU GUYS SUCK [/quote]

[quote][20:09:56] DenialOwnzyou has joined the channel.
[20:10:03] <DenialOwnzyou> Hi You guys suck
[20:10:43] <DenialOwnzyou> loser
[20:10:49] <DenialOwnzyou> SUCK
[20:10:50] <DenialOwnzyou> SUCK SUCK SUCK
[20:11:03] <DenialOwnzyou> wtf is raihan?
[20:11:05] <DenialOwnzyou> is he in vl?
[20:11:24] <Hostile[vL]@Azeroth> .ban denial* here we go
[20:11:24] DenialOwnzyou was banned by [vL] (here we go).
[20:11:25] DenialOwnzyou has left the channel.
[20:12:11] DenialOwnsYou has joined the channel.
[20:12:14] <DenialOwnsYou> WE SHALL OVERCOME
[20:12:24] <DenialOwnsYou> WE ART TEH LEET
[20:12:34] <DenialOwnsYou> SHup vl kid
[20:12:36] <Hostile[vL]@Azeroth> .setuser *denial* +B
[20:12:36] DenialOwnsYou has left the channel.
[20:12:36] DenialOwnsYou was banned by [vL] (Autoban).
[20:12:57] D3nialOwnsYou has joined the channel.
[20:12:59] <D3nialOwnsYou> ROXERS
[20:13:02] <[vL]> Channel protection enabled by Grokkers@Botnet
[20:13:06] D3nialOwnsYou has left the channel.
[20:13:06] D3nialOwnsYou was banned by [vL] (channel protection).
[20:17:58] DenialOwnzyou has joined the channel.
[20:18:01] <DenialOwnzyou> WE R ROXERS
[20:18:51] DenialOwnzyou was banned by [vL] (ban evasion).
[20:18:51] DenialOwnzyou has left the channel.
[20:19:02] DenialOwnzyou was banned by [vL] (ban evasion).[/quote]

Who's harassing who?

You don't have any proof that that was him, Kane. :-\

I hope Denial is punished. Thieves deserve punishment.

[quote author=Zakath link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=0#msg52919 date=1080778624]
You are very incorrect. If they can establish that they were the original authors (which would probably not be incredibly difficult), then that's all they need in court. You seem to not understand copyright law. Registering a patent is not a requirement to hold copyright on something - it is merely a formality which can make it easier to protect one's property.
[/quote]



Also I would like to add that If someone is found liable for copyright infringement, federal law provides for civil remedies that may include substantial monetary payment, injunctive relief and liability for attorney's fee incurred in bringing an action. Criminal penalties may be imposed if someone willfully infringes a copyrighted work, even if no profit is derived from the activity. This type of crime is punishable by up to five years imprisonment, up to $250,000 in fines, or both. *MosDef*

In other words Dave. Good luck to you. You just keep yourself praying that Skywing and Yoni drop the charges.

btw ModDef, take a look at the main page :)

[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=15#msg52939 date=1080782091]
Dear To whom this may concern, I have been informed that i can sue you guys for harrassment if this continues i will counter-sue you for harrassment
[/quote]

It's much harder to prove harassment online then it is to prove copyright law infrigement. Plus your little hassment stunt won't work.

Can someone put up those pics in jpg format?
I cant see png on the skool comp.

[quote author=iago link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=30#msg53054 date=1080836136]
btw MosDef, take a look at the main page :)
[/quote]

Hahaha! That was a great joke. You had me fooled. Nice one guys. Thank you iago.

i hate everybody that took part in this
lick me

Took some time to come up wit all the logs?

[quote author=Fr0z3N link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=0#msg52913 date=1080776875]
Not much you can do now but 'cease and desist'
[/quote]

I thought it was cease to exist.

Oh god damn it. :-X

[quote author=Arsenic link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=30#msg53125 date=1080865726]
[quote author=Fr0z3N link=board=2;threadid=6098;start=0#msg52913 date=1080776875]
Not much you can do now but 'cease and desist'
[/quote]

I thought it was cease to exist.
[/quote]

Re-reading your cited quote, I understand what you are saying now. My gut reaction, though, was to reply solely with:

All your base are belong to us!