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Denial
I have passed along the bnls source code to my trusted friend feanor since skywing or grok will not reply to anything say if you continue to ignore me this will be sold on ebay

We now have a non-bnls server up called EASN Which support war3 as well as all clients
March 29, 2004, 4:44 AM
Noodlez
whats the point of making another server ;o
March 29, 2004, 4:49 AM
DaRk-FeAnOr
It will also be included into a re-compiled version of bnetauth.dll
March 29, 2004, 4:50 AM
o.OV
[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52348 date=1080535443]
I have passed along the bnls source code to my trusted friend feanor since skywing or grok will not reply to anything say
[/quote]

Heh. that is pretty pointless.

Though I don't like the idea of remote hashing..
If I had to use remote hashing
I would just stick with BNLS
since EASN is just another remote hashing server.
Same damn thing cept BNLS is more promising
since it's administrators
are more aware of changes
and are quick to update + do a better job since it is their coding.

Add-On:

[quote author=DaRk-FeAnOr link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52350 date=1080535838]
It will also be included into a re-compiled version of bnetauth.dll
[/quote]

A new "bnetauth" that includes
war3 hashing support is a definite plus.
Don't forget to change the name of the DLL.

[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52348 date=1080535443]
if you continue to ignore me this will be sold on ebay
[/quote]

You won't be able to auction the source off on EBAY.
I don't believe anyone would pay for it especially if a new "bnetauth" with war3 support is going to be released.
March 29, 2004, 4:53 AM
VeLi
Wow, can you say pointless? Who in the right mind would ever trust Dave? Lol, he cant program shit. Yet, again it is COMPLETELY pointless, people dont like change.
March 29, 2004, 4:55 AM
Vicious
Instead of using BNLS by the trusted Skywing, use the server by the dishonest Denial! 8)
March 29, 2004, 4:59 AM
Denial
Actually The Server will be hosted by Eurijk thank you very much the creator of zds bot


EASN and eurijk's will be 2 different servers because feanor who is is people might not trust him but eurijk everyone trusts him because hes cool
March 29, 2004, 5:04 AM
Newby
[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52348 date=1080535443]We now have a non-bnls server up called EASN Which support war3 as well as all clients
[/quote]
EASN has been around longer then the time you have had the BNLS source.
March 29, 2004, 5:10 AM
o.OV
[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52355 date=1080536689]
Actually The Server will be hosted by Eurijk thank you very much the creator of zds bot


EASN and eurijk's will be 2 different servers because feanor who is is people might not trust him but eurijk everyone trusts him because hes cool
[/quote]

Get Eurijk to post the news on http://newds.zefga.net.
And even if Eurijk is hosting it..
It doesn't have any advantage over BNLS does it?
I doubt it..
March 29, 2004, 5:12 AM
Denial
No were adding war3 support to it should be done by the 3rd of april as soon as feanor stops bitching
March 29, 2004, 5:13 AM
ChR0NiC
[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52355 date=1080536689]
Actually The Server will be hosted by Eurijk thank you very much the creator of zds bot

EASN and eurijk's will be 2 different servers because feanor who is is people might not trust him but eurijk everyone trusts him because hes cool
[/quote]

[quote author=o.OV link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52360 date=1080537172]
Get Eurijk to post the news on http://newds.zefga.net.
And even if Eurijk is hosting it..
It doesn't have any advantage over BNLS will it?
I doubt it..
[/quote]

The only advantages would be variety of servers. Which might from time to time be advantagous but nothing out of the ordinary.

[quote author=o.OV link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52352 date=1080536003]
You won't be able to auction the source off on EBAY.
I don't believe anyone would pay for it especially if a new "bnetauth" with war3 support is going to be released.
[/quote]

I agree, I only use BNLS for it's W3 support. Or if an update was done and I am not currently aware of it. But once I figure out what the update is, I usually switch back to local hashing.

Edit: But perhaps if someone would like to host their own server for less knowledgable bot writers and make it very easy for them to get connected, and do personal projects with it. Then I could see someone buying it. I might even bid myself :P :P

Edit2: Unfortunately I was told the source is in C++ and I do not yet know that language, and will not until next year when I learn it in school. So I would have a source I could do nothing with until that time :P
March 29, 2004, 5:14 AM
Null
My only question is ... if you where so quick to indeed take the source why wont you be so quick to take my account once i logon.
March 29, 2004, 5:24 AM
ChR0NiC
[quote author=NuLL link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52364 date=1080537868]
My only question is ... if you where so quick to indeed take the source why wont you be so quick to take my account once i logon.
[/quote]

He has the source to process the packets and hash the passwords and cd keys...he cannot view what is sent to and from the server.

Edit: That is.....if he actually has the source code :P :P :P :P :P
March 29, 2004, 5:26 AM
Denial
Which would be better making a new server or making a .dll instead
March 29, 2004, 5:28 AM
o.OV
[quote author=ChR0NiC link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52362 date=1080537269]
The only advantages would be variety of servers. Which might from time to time be advantagous but nothing out of the ordinary.
[/quote]

Sorry chr0nic..
but I am NOT going to consider EASN an option. :P
March 29, 2004, 5:30 AM
ChR0NiC
[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52366 date=1080538124]
Which would be better making a new server or making a .dll instead
[/quote]

A new server would be more "advantagous" on your behalf because you could sell the source for more. But with the dll people would already be able to Hash W3. Therefore I personally would not bid on it. But if you wanna release the .dll I'll take it :P. I wouldn't mind either way :)
March 29, 2004, 5:30 AM
ChR0NiC
[quote author=ChR0NiC link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52362 date=1080537269]
The only advantages would be variety of servers. Which might from time to time be advantagous but nothing out of the ordinary.
[/quote]

[quote author=o.OV link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52367 date=1080538208]
Sorry chr0nic..
but I am NOT going to consider EASN an option. :P
[/quote]

What about Eurijk!'s server?? He hosted WarNet didn't he?? And it was 100% safe??
March 29, 2004, 5:32 AM
Null
People hate change , change = bad , bad = no thx , no thx = head-aches , get me?


EDIT, Denial , i believe in your rightous might you said you where going to make it "public" , all i see so far is you trying to take the podium and setup your own server. I wouldnt call this realeasing it to the public.
March 29, 2004, 5:33 AM
o.OV
[quote author=ChR0NiC link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52365 date=1080537973]
[quote author=NuLL link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52364 date=1080537868]
My only question is ... if you where so quick to indeed take the source why wont you be so quick to take my account once i logon.
[/quote]

He has the source to process the packets and hash the passwords and cd keys...he cannot view what is sent to and from the server.

Edit: That is.....if he actually has the source code :P :P :P :P :P
[/quote]

Yes he can. The key/pass is sent to the remote hashing server for hashing then the hashed results are sent back. And I believe he does have the source since the security issue was made known on another thread soon after Denial made his announcement.
March 29, 2004, 5:34 AM
Newby
Step one: Click folder with BNLS source in it
Step two: Hold shift and push delete
Step three: Hit enter

Then life continues.
March 29, 2004, 5:34 AM
ChR0NiC
But the ability to hash w3 would commense great pride into one's self. And other than the fact of less people using BNLS to keep the server faster and running more smooth (not that it doesn't already) wouldn't be disasterous??
March 29, 2004, 5:35 AM
ChR0NiC

[quote author=NuLL link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52364 date=1080537868]
My only question is ... if you where so quick to indeed take the source why wont you be so quick to take my account once i logon.
[/quote]

[quote author=ChR0NiC link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52365 date=1080537973]
He has the source to process the packets and hash the passwords and cd keys...he cannot view what is sent to and from the server.

Edit: That is.....if he actually has the source code :P :P :P :P :P
[/quote]

[quote author=o.OV link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=15#msg52371 date=1080538466]
Yes he can. The key/pass is sent to the remote hashing server for hashing then the hashed results are sent back. And I believe he does have the source since the security issue was made known on another thread soon after Denial made his announcement.
[/quote]

He has the source code......he doesn't have access to the logs for christ sakes.
March 29, 2004, 5:37 AM
Null
Your an idiot
March 29, 2004, 5:37 AM
ChR0NiC
[quote author=NuLL link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=15#msg52376 date=1080538677]
Your an idiot
[/quote]

Actually, the correct spelling would be

you're an idiot

Being the use of "you are an idiot" as a contraction.

Edit: No flaming idiot -.-
March 29, 2004, 5:39 AM
Null
You seriously need to read over your post's and look at your arguements ,

Your saying he cant access the password? , he has the source of course he can (even if it was non-existant) it could be added rather easily.

edit* Last time i post on this redundant topic , everyone knows he has the source woopdy doo , come and tell me when your the first man on mars then i might give a shit.
March 29, 2004, 5:42 AM
ChR0NiC
[quote author=NuLL link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=15#msg52378 date=1080538939]
You seriously need to read over your post's and look at your arguements ,

Your saying he cant access the password? , he has the source of course he can (even if it was non-existant) it could be added rather easily.
[/quote]

Are you talking about the BNLS Logins or the BNCS Logins?? Cuz I am talking about BNCS
March 29, 2004, 5:43 AM
o.OV
[quote author=ChR0NiC link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52362 date=1080537269]
Then I could see someone buying it. I might even bid myself :P :P
[/quote]

You are willing to bid?

[quote author=ChR0NiC link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=15#msg52368 date=1080538249]
[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52366 date=1080538124]
Which would be better making a new server or making a .dll instead
[/quote]

A new server would be more "advantagous" on your behalf because you could sell the source for more. But with the dll people would already be able to Hash W3. Therefore I personally would not bid on it. But if you wanna release the .dll I'll take it :P. I wouldn't mind either way :)
[/quote]

You aren't willing to bid?
Make up your mind guy.

And I already pointed out that he wouldn't get any bids with a new DLL coming out.

[quote author=o.OV link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52352 date=1080536003]
You won't be able to auction the source off on EBAY.
I don't believe anyone would pay for it especially if a new "bnetauth" with war3 support is going to be released.
[/quote]

So suddenly you agree with me? heh ;)





March 29, 2004, 5:56 AM
ChR0NiC
If he releases the DLL I won't bid
If he doesn't release the DLL I will bid.

And no I don't agree with you -.-
March 29, 2004, 6:01 AM
o.OV
[quote author=ChR0NiC link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=15#msg52383 date=1080540069]
If he releases the DLL I won't bid
If he doesn't release the DLL I will bid.

And no I don't agree with you -.-
[/quote]

Bullshit. I pointed out that a "bnetauth" with war3 support
is being released and you said you might bid for the source.

[quote author=ChR0NiC link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52362 date=1080537269]
[quote author=o.OV link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52352 date=1080536003]
You won't be able to auction the source off on EBAY.
I don't believe anyone would pay for it especially if a new "bnetauth" with war3 support is going to be released.
[/quote]

Edit: But perhaps if someone would like to host their own server for less knowledgable bot writers and make it very easy for them to get connected, and do personal projects with it. Then I could see someone buying it. I might even bid myself :P :P
[/quote]

You are tripping up on your words chr0nic.
March 29, 2004, 6:14 AM
o.OV
[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52348 date=1080535443]
We now have a non-bnls server up called EASN Which support war3 as well as all clients
[/quote]

What does EASN stand for?

[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52361 date=1080537210]
No were adding war3 support to it should be done by the 3rd of april as soon as feanor stops bitching
[/quote]

Adding war3 support? Heck.
Why not just replace EASN =) and call it BNLS RIPOFF.
March 29, 2004, 6:27 AM
Newby
EASN stands for Exile Authorization Server Network.

And has been around for almost 8 months now. I remember Raihan saying something about it back in July (I could check AIM log but I'm lazy)
March 29, 2004, 6:44 AM
hismajesty
EASN is a remote hashing server written in VB originally started by Feanor[xL] and Binary[xL]. A few months ago (when I was still in exile) I also worked on it but nothing I did was published. Now it is Fr0z3N[xL] and Feanor[xL] (and I'm assuming Denial.) EASN logged usernames/passwords/cdkeys in plain text on a public server (mine since I hosted easn ftp at that time.) They claim to have removed that from it but I doubt it since Fr0z3N already said he spends hours backdooring his bots (I have the quote.) Also, anyone who uses EASN after this should be shot. The fact that they're using the BNLS code and getting fame (I doubt they will though) with others code is wrong. Denial is just in this for more popularity, yet more are against him then with him and I doubt many people even care. As LoRd said in the other post, nobody will even know you two had it.
March 29, 2004, 10:00 AM
iago
31 replies? Wow.
March 29, 2004, 2:26 PM
Grok
[quote author=hismajesty link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52401 date=1080554448]
EASN is a remote hashing server written in VB originally started by Feanor[xL] and Binary[xL]. A few months [/quote]

"[xL]"? Heh.
March 29, 2004, 3:25 PM
iago
[quote author=Grok link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52421 date=1080573935]
[quote author=hismajesty link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52401 date=1080554448]
EASN is a remote hashing server written in VB originally started by Feanor[xL] and Binary[xL]. A few months [/quote]

"[xL]"? Heh.
[/quote]

Haha, I was thinking the same thing: "Rip-off". I can't believe there's a vL poser clan!
March 29, 2004, 3:53 PM
Fr0z3N
Exile isn't a rip off Valhallalegends.
March 29, 2004, 10:25 PM
o.OV
[quote author=Fr0z3N link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52483 date=1080599141]
Exile isn't a rip off Valhallalegends.
[/quote]

iirc.. xL use to be a tag for a clan that goes by the name.. "eXtreme Legends" on USWEST
March 29, 2004, 10:29 PM
Spht
Maybe it's just the tag. They mirrored the 'v'! I guess that's a little creative.
March 29, 2004, 10:30 PM
DaRk-FeAnOr
The tag was thought up by Barumonk, becuse our channel is op eXiLe. X and L were capitilized, so he thought it would be cool to make the tag [xL]. Exile is a pure programming clan, unlinke valhalla legends, with the intent to help people learn how to program.
March 29, 2004, 10:47 PM
Archonist
[quote author=DaRk-FeAnOr link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52491 date=1080600437]
The tag was thought up by Barumonk, becuse our channel is op eXiLe. X and L were capitilized, so he thought it would be cool to make the tag [xL]. Exile is a pure programming clan, unlinke valhalla legends, with the intent to help people learn how to program.
[/quote]

Pure programming.. Unlike [vL].. Right. Almost.
March 29, 2004, 10:54 PM
Fr0z3N
[quote author=o.OV link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52486 date=1080599344]
[quote author=Fr0z3N link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52483 date=1080599141]
Exile isn't a rip off Valhallalegends.
[/quote]

iirc.. xL use to be a tag for a clan that goes by the name.. "eXtreme Legends" on USWEST
[/quote]

Never heard of them.
March 29, 2004, 11:03 PM
Denial
[quote author=DaRk-FeAnOr link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52491 date=1080600437]
The tag was thought up by Barumonk, becuse our channel is op eXiLe. X and L were capitilized, so he thought it would be cool to make the tag [xL]. Exile is a pure programming clan, unlinke valhalla legends, with the intent to help people learn how to program.
[/quote]

webster.com doesnt like the word "unlinke"
March 29, 2004, 11:18 PM
Kp
[quote author=DaRk-FeAnOr link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg5291 date=1080600437]unlinke valhalla legends, with the intent to help people learn how to program. [/quote]

I'm rather surprised to see this. I'd have thought the brutral treatment that some of us administer to the fools who come by wanting help would have made it clear we don't generally help people learn how to program. However, some members (myself included on occasion) do help advance those who already know what they're doing.
March 30, 2004, 12:39 AM
tA-Kane
[quote author=DaRk-FeAnOr link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg5291 date=1080600437]unlinke valhalla legends, with the intent to help people learn how to program.[/quote]

[quote author=Kp link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52530 date=1080607148]some members (myself included on occasion) do help advance those who already know what they're doing.[/quote]

So basically, xL helps people learn to program, and then they can come to vL once they know what they're doing.

[sarcasm]Well I'm glad xL can weed out the newbies so efficiently that vL does such a great job![/sarcasm]
March 30, 2004, 1:05 AM
UserLoser.
[quote author=Fr0z3N link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52483 date=1080599141]
Exile isn't a rip off Valhallalegends.
[/quote]


The moderation bot is
March 30, 2004, 2:26 AM
Newby
[quote author=UserLoser. link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52570 date=1080613588]
[quote author=Fr0z3N link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52483 date=1080599141]
Exile isn't a rip off Valhallalegends.
[/quote]


The moderation bot is
[/quote]
Which one?
March 30, 2004, 2:27 AM
UserLoser.
[quote author=Newby link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=45#msg52571 date=1080613676]
[quote author=UserLoser. link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52570 date=1080613588]
[quote author=Fr0z3N link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52483 date=1080599141]
Exile isn't a rip off Valhallalegends.
[/quote]


The moderation bot is
[/quote]
Which one?
[/quote]

Whatever Exile runs on..
March 30, 2004, 2:29 AM
SNiFFeR
I believe it's Rivalbot or something.
March 30, 2004, 2:34 AM
Newby
It has a really queer name I can't remember off the top of my head :/
March 30, 2004, 2:36 AM
Trance
[quote author=SNiFFeR link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=45#msg52574 date=1080614087]
I believe it's Rivalbot or something.
[/quote]
No, they used to have RivalBot when I hosted it for them.
March 30, 2004, 3:45 AM
Blackie
There was another clan on West called the Zodiac Legends. Their channel was clan zL. Their website was a rip-off of the vL site too. It had that same create a candidate menu thing. Instead of "zero bot logs" it was "01 bot logs".
Edit: I just checked the site, I thought the clan died, but it's still up. The site no longer has 01 bot logs.
March 30, 2004, 6:27 AM
LoRd
[quote author=Blackie link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=45#msg52600 date=1080628072]
There was another clan on West called the Zodiac Legends. Their channel was clan zL. Their website was a rip-off of the vL site too. It had that same create a candidate menu thing. Instead of "zero bot logs" it was "01 bot logs".
Edit: I just checked the site, I thought the clan died, but it's still up. The site no longer has 01 bot logs.
[/quote]
Was Mephisto's clan.
March 30, 2004, 6:40 AM
hismajesty
[quote author=Newby link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=45#msg52571 date=1080613676]
[quote author=UserLoser. link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52570 date=1080613588]
[quote author=Fr0z3N link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=30#msg52483 date=1080599141]
Exile isn't a rip off Valhallalegends.
[/quote]
The moderation bot is
[/quote]
Which one?
[/quote]

Xeyel Bot I think they use now. Unless you're talking about the one they used when I was still in Exile which was the one Fr0z3N 'made', I forget the name though.
March 30, 2004, 12:15 PM
Fr0z3N
I use Malibu made by me. I don't use anything called 'Xeyel' so collect the facts before you post.
March 30, 2004, 12:16 PM
Define
[quote author=Vicious link=board=2;threadid=6050;start=0#msg52354 date=1080536386]
Instead of using BNLS by the trusted Skywing, use the server by the dishonest Denial! 8)
[/quote]

'In the jungle with the leaders, were the lions your the cheaters'
April 1, 2004, 3:38 PM

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