It's been one day since Saddam was captured by a pack of wild Americans, and the world is still glad to be rid of him.

I was beginning to doubt that he even existed.

[quote author=iago link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=0#msg35262 date=1071409988]
I was beginning to doubt that he even existed.
[/quote]I started to doubt it recently too, and still do. Ever read Orwell's 1984? :)

Glad to see that they finaly cought the bastard.

[quote author=Yoni link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=0#msg35273 date=1071411404]
[quote author=iago link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=0#msg35262 date=1071409988]
I was beginning to doubt that he even existed.
[/quote]I started to doubt it recently too, and still do. Ever read Orwell's 1984? :)
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Yup. He was beginning to seem like a Scapegoat. Bin Laden probably doesn't exist, he's just Goldstein :)

Do you guys think that he will get the death penalty? Considering that he was captured by the Americans and that they still believe in that penalty. Oh and didnt he kill like 200 thousand people in one explosion or something like that? Bastard deserves to die slow.

[quote author=Mitosis link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=0#msg35280 date=1071413071]
Do you guys think that he will get the death penalty? Considering that he was captured by the Americans and that they still believe in that penalty. Oh and didnt he kill like 200 thousand people in one explosion or something like that? Bastard deserves to die slow.
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Only once in the history of Israel had someone been punished by death - the famous Eichmann trial (responsible for major parts of the Final Solution and millions of Jews dead, etc. Google for more). I don't think even Saddam would earn a death penalty if he were to be put to trial in Israel.

USA, however, and George W. Bush in particular, are known for liking death penalties. So sure, he's toast.

(Edit: Grammar.)

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- Netcooler

This will be a good breakthrough for Bush considering that the American people want him out, because he rushed into a world war. But then again some people will still want him out.

[quote author=Mitosis link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=0#msg35285 date=1071415217]
This will be a good breakthrough for Bush considering that the American people want him out, because he rushed into a world war. But then again some people will still want him out.
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We want him out because 9% of Americans are out of work. Half of those no longer have unemployment benefits. We want him out because he didn't trust us to tell us the truth about Iraq and let us form a fair opinion (us meaning Congress, our elected representatives to decide about Iraq for us the people).

It's great for the world that Saddam Hussein is now a prisoner. But the end does not always justify the means. Other than the French, we could have been honest with the rest of the U.N. about this guy and they would have maybe supported the war. Or not. Maybe we would've had to go back in a few years, after GW is out of office. But we fucked our reputation for a decade because GW lied to the world on our behalf. Now what do we stand for?

Edit: (dear fcc -- i mean fucked in the nonsexual context)

Plus, Bush is following in his fathers foot steps. They were always starting wars and after the oil. When they invading Iraq one of the first things they did and tried to do was take over the oil. That tells you something right there.

[quote author=Mitosis link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=0#msg35298 date=1071417063]
Plus, Bush is following in his fathers foot steps. They were always starting wars and after the oil. When they invading Iraq one of the first things they did and tried to do was take over the oil. That tells you something right there.
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It tells me two things. #1, you said you posted your last post before Christmas. #2, you don't know a thing about oil, if you think we need to start a war over it. Oil is a commodity and traded on the open market. Get a new information source.

[quote] Well guys this is my last day on here until Christmas! Selling this comp and getting my new one! Just want to wish everyone a merry Christmas! I wont be posting on here anymore probably around eight. So best wishes to all! [/quote]

My last day here and I am going to be off the comp at eight until Christmas. Well about the oil thats what I heard so thats what I posted.

[quote author=Mitosis link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=0#msg35305 date=1071417612]My last day here and I am going to be off the comp at eight until Christmas. Well about the oil thats what I heard so thats what I posted.[/quote]

You have a CPU installed between your inputs and your outputs. When you hear something, don't just repeat it. Parrots do that.

Bush still does lead the next election as far as popular votes based on a recent poll iirc. I personally like Bush, but I get yelled at for defending him at school...

[quote author=hismajesty link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=0#msg35312 date=1071418662]
Bush still does lead the next election as far as popular votes based on a recent poll iirc. I personally like Bush, but I get yelled at for defending him at school...
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Yelled at? You can summarily dismiss your opposition then as communists. Or Brits.

[quote author=hismajesty link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=0#msg35312 date=1071418662]
Bush still does lead the next election as far as popular votes based on a recent poll iirc. I personally like Bush, but I get yelled at for defending him at school...
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Well, he looks american I suppose. But he still seems like a miserable failure :P

+1 for america

[quote author=Mitosis link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=0#msg35285 date=1071415217]
This will be a good breakthrough for Bush considering that the American people want him out, because he rushed into a world war. But then again some people will still want him out.
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World War III started!?.........OMG, when!?...has it gone nuclear yet!?
AH!


Bush proposed bills to the UN & then decided not to support the US in the war against Iraq, therefore I see it fit that only countries that helped with the war gain from the business oppurtunities. If the US just never helped anyone the USSR would probably still exsist, Hitler may even be in power in Europe, God only knows if it weren't for the US getting involved in foreign affairs.

Lets not forget though in WWII america only joined in cos they attacked and they act like they won the war single handedly. Im a Brit

[quote author=CrAz3D link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=15#msg35343 date=1071432741]
Hitler may even be in power in Europe...[/quote]

And everywhere else in the world...

Rabbit, Britian was basically the only country left agaisnt Hitler, eventually Britian would've fallen withough help.

& jok3r, quite true

[quote author=Mitosis link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=0#msg35298 date=1071417063]
Plus, Bush is following in his fathers foot steps. They were always starting wars and after the oil. When they invading Iraq one of the first things they did and tried to do was take over the oil. That tells you something right there.
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maybe because the oil was on fire. not good to breath.

[quote author=The-Rabid-Lord link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=15#msg35345 date=1071432949]
Lets not forget though in WWII america only joined in cos they attacked and they act like they won the war single handedly. Im a Brit
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Beat Japan almost by ourselves, yes. But impossible to have beaten back Rommel without staging with the Brits on their soil.

Yes america were powerful and helped us but we did fight most of the war. We might not have fallen. Hitler liked britain as a country side scenery thing so went and invaded russia instead.

[quote author=CrAz3D link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=15#msg35357 date=1071435758]
Rabbit, Britian was basically the only country left agaisnt Hitler, eventually Britian would've fallen withough help.

& jok3r, quite true
[/quote]No, the USSR was also pushing back the Nazis.
Britain would not have fallen, at least for many years. They beat back the Luftwaffe in the Battle of Britain, and with that, Germany lost any means of defending a landing force sent to Britain.

Heh, propanganda is great. It's amazing how many people buy into a lot of falsehoods.

btw, this wasn't a world war. This was a huge rich country with tons of weapons attacking a tiny poor country with extremely limited weapons.

[quote author=iago link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=15#msg35371 date=1071439741]
Heh, propanganda is great. It's amazing how many people buy into a lot of falsehoods.

btw, this wasn't a world war. This was a huge rich country with tons of weapons attacking a tiny poor country with extremely limited weapons.
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afganishstan(sp?) is even worse.

Strategy wise, I saw Osama has kicked Bush's ass, he doesn't have nearly the resources as Bush, but has he been caught? Who has caused more damage to who's country? Which country respect which 'leader' more?

As for Saddam, I feel it's about time, and although he doesn't have as much as Bush, he managed to evaded him alot. Bush still won though :P

[quote author=CrAz3D link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=15#msg35343 date=1071432741]
Bush proposed bills to the UN & then decided not to support the US in the war against Iraq, therefore I see it fit that only countries that helped with the war gain from the business oppurtunities. If the US just never helped anyone the USSR would probably still exsist, Hitler may even be in power in Europe, God only knows if it weren't for the US getting involved in foreign affairs.
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You mean, since we're not robbers, and didn't go robbing that poor guy, we shouldn't get to split the loot? I suppose that makes sense. We'd all rather see that you pay out of your own pocket for his broken glasses and clothes though.

[quote author=j0k3r link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=15#msg35385 date=1071445972]
As for Saddam, I feel it's about time, and although he doesn't have as much as Bush, he managed to evaded him alot. Bush still won though :P
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There were some articles on the resistance movements in Iraq recently. It may yet be that USA is forced to withdraw (kinda like Hitler was forced to withdraw from France eventually, even though he conquered it at first).

[quote author=Adron link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=15#msg35424 date=1071461972]
[quote author=CrAz3D link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=15#msg35343 date=1071432741]
Bush proposed bills to the UN & then decided not to support the US in the war against Iraq, therefore I see it fit that only countries that helped with the war gain from the business oppurtunities. If the US just never helped anyone the USSR would probably still exsist, Hitler may even be in power in Europe, God only knows if it weren't for the US getting involved in foreign affairs.
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You mean, since we're not robbers, and didn't go robbing that poor guy, we shouldn't get to split the loot? I suppose that makes sense. We'd all rather see that you pay out of your own pocket for his broken glasses and clothes though.
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You wouldn't want to explain your robber analogy would you?...I'm confused on it.

[quote author=Adron link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=30#msg35425 date=1071462047]
[quote author=j0k3r link=board=2;threadid=4230;start=15#msg35385 date=1071445972]
As for Saddam, I feel it's about time, and although he doesn't have as much as Bush, he managed to evaded him alot. Bush still won though :P
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There were some articles on the resistance movements in Iraq recently. It may yet be that USA is forced to withdraw (kinda like Hitler was forced to withdraw from France eventually, even though he conquered it at first).
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Forced? We've said from the start that we're not staying. When we leave does that mean we're conquered?