With all the "complaints", "problems" and other miscellaneous things people think about vL and how some try to DoS our server(s) and bitch about not being let into the channel etc... vL was obviously made FOR the members of vL with really no thought about the visitors. The friends we've made and lost from those who just drift in and out of the channel is pretty cool. My question for those that complain about getting banned etc...

What makes us (vL) such a great place to hang out with in your eyes? There are other groups on B.net so why of all the thousands of channels do you the visitor decide to soley come to Op [vL] ? Just something I was thinking about 8)

I only come to visit you DarkVirus! ;D


Well, i don't know why i really went to vl's channel. I knew they pretty much knew anything important that goes on Battle.net. People just go to places they have heard of before or from other people.

Bot Makers Like Bacca back when ChewbaccaBot was popular i visited him.

Joykillah - I've known him for a while

Darkminion- I've known him for a long time and his vlbbot

Skywing - Don't remember where i met him

I think what brought me to the channel wasn't the clan itself it was the people in the clan. Each one of them were different a more quieter channel then i was used to i could get away from people there.

New ideas also come from the channel or like when your there they are talking and your like wow i would have never thought of that.

Like when Spht thought about webbot i never actually thought of something like that and i think it was a very good idea

I think that pretty much sums it up. I don't visit the channel much but when i do it's very friendly ( sometimes )

Iv come into the channel once, was banned for being idle. I dont really spend much time on battle.net anymore, Im mostly on here and um reading.

and downloading trojaned files ive heard :)

Hey just because Im a stupid dumbass newbie who nos nothing about computers doesnt mean you got to rub it in!

I'm hurt that Denial failed to mention me :(

But I like the channel because it's quiet. I know I'm not really a visitor, but I'm still going to answer. A few times I've sat in other channels which were full of people playing with bots, and the bots would always speak out loud. Most of the conversation was idles, or which song was being played, or people saying `say test, etc.etc.

vL is a nice, quiet, controlled environment.

You want an honest opinion of why vL is a nice place to hangout?

Battle.net is filled with 10 year olds. vL is one of the few places I feel I can go to to carry out a mature conversation. It's comparable to a haven people flock to for temporary relief of the agonizing headaches the perma caps locked keyboard mashers of battle.net give us all.

[quote author=AssassinRC link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=0#msg32809 date=1070246309]
You want an honest opinion of why vL is a nice place to hangout?

Battle.net is filled with 10 year olds. vL is one of the few places I feel I can go to to carry out a mature conversation. It's comparable to a haven people flock to for temporary relief of the agonizing headaches the perma caps locked keyboard mashers of battle.net give us all.
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Ah yes, nothing could be more truthful.

But I'm sure as you've noticed plenty of people come in seek of 'professional' help, they need someone who is more knowledgable than themeslves to help them. I'm sure alot of people want to join vL because of it's reputation for programmers, and every other kid on bnet wants to be a programmer, so they look up to you. That aside, vL is obviously an exclusive clan, and anything exclusive is bound to attract some attention and followers.

um i met iago in vl to well when he was a non-vl member and he was ok kinda weird though

[quote author=Denial link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=0#msg32817 date=1070247756]
um i met iago in vl to well when he was a non-vl member and he was ok kinda weird though
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I've known iago for a long time and I'd hardly consider the fact that he "was" ok kinda weird... I think I speak for all in saying he still IS ok kinda weird ;D

I don't go to the channel at all, but I met skywing over the summer in open tech support under the name "Jewb" and played UT with him a few times, then he disappeared. (School?) :P

Although a few of you are speaking the reality, alot of you aren't. Despite the constant whining about not wanting it, and granted I know Kp certainly doesn't fit into this but deep down, they like the attention. :P Why do you think its impossible to get linger in the channel, and yet readily available to view whats going on inside it? Its just a funny tease, one after anouther and trust me, considering some of the things I've done to some of the wayward guests who ventured into the vL channel, I can honestly say its funny as hell. Most of you are being manipulated and you still can't stay away. But don't feel bad, for those of you who this is important too, or atleast a factor in your daily events... well Why wouldn't you want to be around vL? Isn't it a custom to want to be around the best? Its been a simple factor through history and related to many environments in life, just apply it on something like battle.net and you have vL.

PS: Cookie ^^ We've been playing Ghost Recon.

[quote author=Hitmen link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=0#msg32828 date=1070251744]
I don't go to the channel at all, but I met skywing over the summer in open tech support under the name "Jewb" and played UT with him a few times, then he disappeared. (School?) :P
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I played UT with skywing a few times till one day i played and beat him then the next day my ut wouldnt work anymore >:(

oh and i sometimes go to the channel to remind kp to update the name kp

I have met the vL members on the forum pretty much. Iv been in the channel a couple times, seems pretty cool and I have seen people coming asking for stuff. Even if you cant be a member of the clan, we should be glad that were in the forum and still being able to have conversations about stuff with the vL members.

I enjoy hanging out in vL because of the controlled enviroment mainly. You don't have a bunch of people flooding the channel with useless text. The most 'spam' I see on my bot is join/leave messages which can easily be filtered out. The annoying people are usually banned or ignored...either way they pose no annoyance towards me. I do have a few friends in the clan and that is another way I can talk with them besides third party messaging programs/ forums. I enjoy how people in there use English and how most of them have a (even if it's dry at times) sense of humor. Also, by hanging in the channel in the channel and reading their conversations/ having conversations with them..it makes you more intelligent as long as you pay attention :P .

ive been in op [vl] a few times under the account kitty, but i usually never leave the channel clan 2xx, all my friends are there and its fun talking to alot of the visitors we have

Why I Enjoy Hanging out in Op [vL]
by Myndfyre

Just kidding.

I actually don't pop into Op [vL] all too often; most of the time, my interaction with you guys stems about here on the forums. If there isn't very much activity in my clan channel, I'll jump around to see what's going on, and I discover that (usually) even less is going on in Op [vL]. I've had only a couple discussions with members in the channel; I find that it's more typically AIM by which I can communicate with you guys.

Regardless, I hang out and visit with you guys because I've found as I've gotten older, it's increasingly difficult to find people with whom to have an intelligent conversation. Someone made the comment about how Bnet is increasingly populated by ten-year-olds -- nothing could be more to the truth. Since you guys are generous enough to share your resources and knowledge, though, I try and be as helpful as I can on the forums with programming topics. I enjoy this community very much, and I am more than happy to give back to it.

Cheers
--Rob

[quote author=DarkVirus link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=0#msg32712 date=1070224169]
What makes us (vL) such a great place to hang out with in your eyes?[/quote]

I just come here for the porn.

[quote author=Naem link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=15#msg33352 date=1070421605]
I just come here for the porn.
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And here I thought you were here for me.

[quote author=Zakath link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=15#msg33358 date=1070423343]
[quote author=Naem link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=15#msg33352 date=1070421605]
I just come here for the porn.
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And here I thought you were here for me.
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Those two things are not necessarily independent of each other.

I come to vL's forum to converse and learn. I have never entered the channel Op vL. I learned of vL from talking to bacca a long time ago.

I have never seen vL's channel taken over either, heard yes, seen no. So I assume its atleast a decent place to hang out.

Taken over? I don't understand. How could it ever be taken over? It's a moderated channel. Only [vL] and those it designates can ever be an operator. Even massloading is only a minor annoyance, since most of the members who are generally online have advanced filtering features in the clients they use.

Even though i still get banned every time i go in there, i like the educational conversations, and being able to hold a conversation without somebody calling you a "newbie" etc. Most of vL think i am some sort of pest.. coughkpcough, but let it be what it is, i cannot change anybodys mind, all that matters IMO, is that at one point i was stupid and immature, and now i respect these people because of there accomplishments, obviously it isnt mutual. But hey, like i said, educational conversations, i love em.

[quote author=MesiaH link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=15#msg33365 date=1070426398]
But hey, like i said, educational conversations, i love em.
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Agreed

I don't really go in the channel to much. I mostly sit in open tech support and help newbies with questions they could pretty much answer by looking at the bliz website. I knew a couple people from a few years ago, well talked to a few people DM and a couple of other people.
The main reason I've been coming to the forums is the lack of stupidity thats allowed here. If somebody chimes in with something annoying its usually turned in the other direction pretty quick.
Also if I have any computer related questions there are like 20+ people here that can answer it.
And the people DoS'n are probably just people seeing vL as a big trophy.

I moved to vL from OTS because I got totally sick of all the spam and idiots :)

[quote author=MesiaH link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=15#msg33365 date=1070426398]
Even though i still get banned every time i go in there, i like the educational conversations, and being able to hold a conversation without somebody calling you a "newbie" etc. Most of vL think i am some sort of pest.. coughkpcough, but let it be what it is, i cannot change anybodys mind, all that matters IMO, is that at one point i was stupid and immature, and now i respect these people because of there accomplishments, obviously it isnt mutual. But hey, like i said, educational conversations, i love em.
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This is a good reminder for everyone to try and not make a bad first impression. Because first impressions last....

Its a good thing I put out for sky on our first date then :-*

[quote author=Adron link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=15#msg33416 date=1070470056]
[quote author=MesiaH link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=15#msg33365 date=1070426398]
Even though i still get banned every time i go in there, i like the educational conversations, and being able to hold a conversation without somebody calling you a "newbie" etc. Most of vL think i am some sort of pest.. coughkpcough, but let it be what it is, i cannot change anybodys mind, all that matters IMO, is that at one point i was stupid and immature, and now i respect these people because of there accomplishments, obviously it isnt mutual. But hey, like i said, educational conversations, i love em.
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This is a good reminder for everyone to try and not make a bad first impression. Because first impressions last....
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You could always make a new name. :P

ip ban?

[quote author=Hitmen link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=15#msg33441 date=1070480846]You could always make a new name. :P[/quote]

Actually, doing that and getting caught usually carries pretty stiff penalties even if the person wasn't really known either way before. :)

[quote author=Kp link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=30#msg33455 date=1070483359]
[quote author=Hitmen link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=15#msg33441 date=1070480846]You could always make a new name. :P[/quote]

Actually, doing that and getting caught usually carries pretty stiff penalties even if the person wasn't really known either way before. :)
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To which the answer again is: Create a new name!

This is also the solution to people liked by some members and disliked by others. New name and +F since you can't -B the old name.

[quote author=Adron link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=30#msg33805 date=1070631549]
[quote author=Kp link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=30#msg33455 date=1070483359]
[quote author=Hitmen link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=15#msg33441 date=1070480846]You could always make a new name. :P[/quote]

Actually, doing that and getting caught usually carries pretty stiff penalties even if the person wasn't really known either way before. :)
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To which the answer again is: Create a new name!

This is also the solution to people liked by some members and disliked by others. New name and +F since you can't -B the old name.

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Why can't you -B the old name?

[quote author=hismajesty link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=30#msg33809 date=1070634328]
[quote author=Adron link=board=2;threadid=3974;start=30#msg33805 date=1070631549]
To which the answer again is: Create a new name!

This is also the solution to people liked by some members and disliked by others. New name and +F since you can't -B the old name.

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Why can't you -B the old name?
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It's psychologically impossible?