Valhalla Legends Forums Archive | Visual Basic Programming | hey im working on this password prgrm.

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Sliver_king
hey i have this problem... im working on a program to keep my parents out of my personal stuuf on the computer. but for some reason noone ever told me how to make the program auto start when the folder opens. so if anyone can help i would greatly appreciate it. everything else is already done i just cant figure the auto start procedure for the program.
November 14, 2003, 3:14 PM
Adron
I know of no way to make a program autostart when a folder opens, if there's no special program running before.
November 14, 2003, 5:37 PM
Crim-Training
try putting it in the startup folder ?
November 14, 2003, 5:40 PM
Adron
[quote author=Crim-Training link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=0#msg29134 date=1068831615]
try putting it in the startup folder ?
[/quote]

That will make it run when the shell starts, not when some particular folder is opened.
November 14, 2003, 5:48 PM
iago
Which file system are you running?

I'm assuming you're using Windows NT, 2K, or XP for this answer:
I'm also assuming you're using the NTFS file system. To find out if you are, right click on your harddrive, click properties, and it'll say either FAT32 or NTFS.
My final assumption is that you are using a different account than your parents.

Under NTFS, you can set permissions on files and folders which woudl only let you see them. Anybody else who tries to access them will get, "Permission Denied." I'm not entirely sure how to set them, but, if my above assumptions are correct (please confirm) I or somebody else may post additional information on how to set permissions.
November 14, 2003, 6:31 PM
Grok
[quote author=Sliver_king link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=0#msg29123 date=1068822855]
hey i have this problem... im working on a program to keep my parents out of my personal stuuf on the computer. but for some reason noone ever told me how to make the program auto start when the folder opens. so if anyone can help i would greatly appreciate it. everything else is already done i just cant figure the auto start procedure for the program.
[/quote]

You can do this by giving your folder a system attribute, then creating an .htt file for the folder.

[quote]but for some reason noone ever told me how to make the program auto start [/quote]

For some reason noone ever told you .... say what? It sounds as if you expect knowledge to be spoon-fed to you. Well as it happens, here's some spoon-fed information:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnwebtool/html/webview.asp

Read that, then create your htt, including some javascript to run when the folder is accessed/opened. Not too hard.
November 14, 2003, 8:36 PM
Grok
There MIGHT be another way to do this, if you wrote a service to hook a notification of folder access. There are such functions that notify you about file creation, modification, deletion, but I'm not so sure about file access. You can check it out though and let US know. I'm pretty sure it must exist, because the auditing functions in NTFS let you know when people access certain files.
November 14, 2003, 8:39 PM
Dyndrilliac
I supposed you could create a program would run in the background, and have a function much like that of a game trainer - where it check for an open window, and you could set it to say if the window is detected as open then it asks for a password and locks the computer. Such a program would be rather easy to create.
November 14, 2003, 8:39 PM
Hitmen
Why make a program for something so simple?

Asuming your parents are nearly computer illiterate, this should work.

edit: also assuming you're on 98 or 2k. No idea if it works on XP, don't care.
November 14, 2003, 9:12 PM
TheMinistered
Personally, I think you shouldn't protect anything on your computer from your parents, especially if you are under eighteen.

You should have nothing to hide from them anyways because there should be nothing illegal there.

The only reason I can see you would want to hide things from your parents is if you are over eighteen and it is something private + legal.

In conclusion, I doubt you are over eighteen... so we just helped a kid hide something that he shouldn't have (i.e. porno).
November 14, 2003, 10:57 PM
Dyndrilliac
I say if you can beat the system, good for you.
November 14, 2003, 11:43 PM
j0k3r
[quote author=TheMinistered link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=0#msg29181 date=1068850663]
Personally, I think you shouldn't protect anything on your computer from your parents, especially if you are under eighteen.

You should have nothing to hide from them anyways because there should be nothing illegal there.

The only reason I can see you would want to hide things from your parents is if you are over eighteen and it is something private + legal.

In conclusion, I doubt you are over eighteen... so we just helped a kid hide something that he shouldn't have (i.e. porno).
[/quote]
It's his option to protect his files if he wants, and with my case, my sisters screw up my computer all the time, knowing this even 2months ago would have been awesome, wouldn't have had to reformat so much.
November 15, 2003, 3:01 AM
iago
You COULD just give her a limited account, and set up the permissions on important stuff that you don't want her touching.
November 15, 2003, 1:20 PM
Sliver_king
the only reason i have this program being made is because my parents wont stop looking at everything i do everything i type and where i go and who i talk to... they arent computer illiterate but they dont know everything about it either... they dont know how to hack into things but they kow how to find stuff though... thats why i want the program. i wrun windows xp and i beleive i run ntfs but im not sure ill have to check. im under 18 but i just have stuff that they dont need to see like personal conversations that i have with my gf on aim. they found out a way to save my conversations so i sent the conversation files to one folder that they havent found yet but they are getting really close and thats why i need the password program. no i dont have porn on there get your mind out of the gutter.
November 17, 2003, 2:14 PM
Sliver_king
oh question is there a way to make a starup folder for the other folder????
November 17, 2003, 2:16 PM
Grok
Now that you've told why you need it, I don't believe I will be helping you.
November 17, 2003, 2:45 PM
Analog-X
Like Iago said, just use NTFS file permissions to keep them out.
November 17, 2003, 2:55 PM
DarkVirus
[quote author=Analog-X link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29682 date=1069080959]
Like Iago said, just use NTFS file permissions to keep them out.
[/quote]

Ya know.... this may be getting into the obvious but if your running Win XP... Just do yourself a favor and just setup a seperate account for YOU only and password protect it, if you leave, shut the computer off so they can't access your files. IF thats too hard I believe McAfee offers a service like that to password protect individual files... IF THATS too hard, get over it :P
November 17, 2003, 3:22 PM
Adron
Or, just wipe out those incriminating log files every time before you leave the computer.
November 17, 2003, 5:31 PM
iago
Also, they invented a sweet tool called a telephone; to talk to somebody locally, I've always found that that's the best way.
November 17, 2003, 6:35 PM
Grok
[quote author=iago link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29707 date=1069094103]
Also, they invented a sweet tool called a telephone; to talk to somebody locally, I've always found that that's the best way.
[/quote]

Yup, and I'm going to call your parents to tell them about your subversion attempts.
November 17, 2003, 8:11 PM
j0k3r
[quote author=Grok link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29742 date=1069099896]
[quote author=iago link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29707 date=1069094103]
Also, they invented a sweet tool called a telephone; to talk to somebody locally, I've always found that that's the best way.
[/quote]
Yup, and I'm going to call your parents to tell them about your subversion attempts.
[/quote]
Why do you care so much about what other people do? He's not doing anything harmful, just tring to get some privacy. I mean if you let him be free on the computer, he might start actually ENJOYING it and be on the computer instead of doing drugs with his friends at school...

Not trying to undermine Grok or anything... But you should do anything you can, like you said keeping conversations with your girlfriend private is one of the least harmful things you can do, and least illegal. And take Adron's advice until you find a solution, delete the files before you leave the computer.

[edit]If you have the money, save up and get your own computer, and make it only one account and a password only you know.[/edit]
November 17, 2003, 9:50 PM
iago
[quote author=j0k3r link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29757 date=1069105819]
[quote author=Grok link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29742 date=1069099896]
[quote author=iago link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29707 date=1069094103]
Also, they invented a sweet tool called a telephone; to talk to somebody locally, I've always found that that's the best way.
[/quote]
Yup, and I'm going to call your parents to tell them about your subversion attempts.
[/quote]
Why do you care so much about what other people do? He's not doing anything harmful, just tring to get some privacy. I mean if you let him be free on the computer, he might start actually ENJOYING it and be on the computer instead of doing drugs with his friends at school...[/quote]

Maybe he's talking about the drugs he did :P

Don't forget, Grok is more like a father figure than many other people here, simply based on age.
November 17, 2003, 10:31 PM
Grok
Ah, I didn't know about the drugs he was doing at school. I'm calling the vice principle, too. He'll want to know about this.
November 17, 2003, 10:35 PM
hismajesty
[quote author=iago link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29767 date=1069108291]
[quote author=j0k3r link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29757 date=1069105819]
[quote author=Grok link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29742 date=1069099896]
[quote author=iago link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29707 date=1069094103]
Also, they invented a sweet tool called a telephone; to talk to somebody locally, I've always found that that's the best way.
[/quote]
Yup, and I'm going to call your parents to tell them about your subversion attempts.
[/quote]
Why do you care so much about what other people do? He's not doing anything harmful, just tring to get some privacy. I mean if you let him be free on the computer, he might start actually ENJOYING it and be on the computer instead of doing drugs with his friends at school...[/quote]

Maybe he's talking about the drugs he did :P

Don't forget, Grok is more like a father figure than many other people here, simply based on age.
[/quote]

Well, doesn't Grok have a daughter?
November 17, 2003, 11:13 PM
iago
[quote author=hismajesty link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29783 date=1069110796]
[quote author=iago link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29767 date=1069108291]
[quote author=j0k3r link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29757 date=1069105819]
[quote author=Grok link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29742 date=1069099896]
[quote author=iago link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29707 date=1069094103]
Also, they invented a sweet tool called a telephone; to talk to somebody locally, I've always found that that's the best way.
[/quote]
Yup, and I'm going to call your parents to tell them about your subversion attempts.
[/quote]
Why do you care so much about what other people do? He's not doing anything harmful, just tring to get some privacy. I mean if you let him be free on the computer, he might start actually ENJOYING it and be on the computer instead of doing drugs with his friends at school...[/quote]

Maybe he's talking about the drugs he did :P

Don't forget, Grok is more like a father figure than many other people here, simply based on age.
[/quote]

Well, doesn't Grok have a daughter?
[/quote]

I thought he was gay!

Actually, I don't know; all I know is he has an Ex ;)
November 17, 2003, 11:19 PM
j0k3r
[quote author=iago link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29788 date=1069111140]
[quote author=hismajesty link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29783 date=1069110796]
[quote author=iago link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29767 date=1069108291]
[quote author=j0k3r link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29757 date=1069105819]
[quote author=Grok link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29742 date=1069099896]
[quote author=iago link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=15#msg29707 date=1069094103]
Also, they invented a sweet tool called a telephone; to talk to somebody locally, I've always found that that's the best way.
[/quote]
Yup, and I'm going to call your parents to tell them about your subversion attempts.
[/quote]
Why do you care so much about what other people do? He's not doing anything harmful, just tring to get some privacy. I mean if you let him be free on the computer, he might start actually ENJOYING it and be on the computer instead of doing drugs with his friends at school...[/quote]

Maybe he's talking about the drugs he did :P

Don't forget, Grok is more like a father figure than many other people here, simply based on age.
[/quote]

Well, doesn't Grok have a daughter?
[/quote]

I thought he was gay!

Actually, I don't know; all I know is he has an Ex ;)
[/quote]

LMFAO@IAGO

I said it might be keeping him OFF the drugs, not ON.
November 17, 2003, 11:37 PM
Mitosis
Well, this kinda reminds me of what it was like when I was first allowed on the Internet. This kind of sounds like your parents cannot trust you, why don't win your parents trust and just do things that you should be allowed to do, they obviously think you are doing something that you shouldn't if they are checking your computer constintly.
November 18, 2003, 12:01 AM
iago
haha, when we first got the internet my parents were paranoid. "No closing the door, chatting, using it while we aren't home, etc."

Now we have 3 computers, me and my sister have computers in our rooms, and nobody really thinks about it anymore.
November 18, 2003, 1:56 PM
j0k3r
Yeah I got the same situation as Iago... When I had AOL my parents restricted the AOL chat rooms, now my dad doesn't even scan for porn anymore (not that he'd find any... or that he could considering I'm the only one who can log onto MY computer).
November 18, 2003, 9:51 PM
Dyndrilliac
My suggestion is get an afterschool job, pay for your own stuff(Dell Computer and dial up, may not be the top of the line but it works), then password protect everything to your satisfaction and log off whenever you leave.
November 20, 2003, 7:52 PM
DarkVirus
Why are we still talking about this? Didn't about 15 different solutions arise and the most considerable one was putting a password on a new user setup? Besides, considering your how old? Your parents have every right to check up on you regardless of your personal feelings. As annoying as it may seem, they ARE legally bound to you and anything you consider to do in a dumb manner may get you in trouble and they are liable for you.

How old ARE you? If your parents are still checking up on you then you can't be much older than... 14? If you are, then you should be able to think up some clever way of HIDING your files and folder called..."Fuzzy Bunny Games".

When I was around 15 my parents still threatened to scan my system, I finally told them if they did, expect a bat to their system for breaking my privacy. I'm not telling you to go to such extreme measures, but come on...this isn't exactly rocket science 8)
November 20, 2003, 9:05 PM
j0k3r
[quote author=DarkVirus link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=30#msg30358 date=1069362300]
When I was around 15 my parents still threatened to scan my system, I finally told them if they did, expect a bat to their system for breaking my privacy. I'm not telling you to go to such extreme measures, but come on...this isn't exactly rocket science 8)
[/quote]
Your parents threatened to scan? My dad just found it more fun to scan while I was away and then yell at me when I got home...
Then again he did have a good reason to scan.
November 20, 2003, 9:18 PM
iago
I think that, until you reach legal age at least, it's up to your parents to look out for your best interests, even if you don't think they're right. My parents have almost never checked on me, on computer or otherwise, because they trust me. They always know where I am, and what I'm doing, and I help out my mom all the time. If I use their van, I put gas in it.

My point is, trust has to be earned, and I have earned it.
November 20, 2003, 11:03 PM
DarkVirus
[quote author=j0k3r link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=30#msg30362 date=1069363110]
[quote author=DarkVirus link=board=31;threadid=3600;start=30#msg30358 date=1069362300]
When I was around 15 my parents still threatened to scan my system, I finally told them if they did, expect a bat to their system for breaking my privacy. I'm not telling you to go to such extreme measures, but come on...this isn't exactly rocket science 8)
[/quote]
Your parents threatened to scan? My dad just found it more fun to scan while I was away and then yell at me when I got home...
Then again he did have a good reason to scan.
[/quote]

Actually no my parents never "threatened" me or actually looked through my system. They just said they might I think to scare me into not doing anything that a typical kid would do. Fortunately I actually did tell them that I'd take a bat to their system and I wasn't nor am I still a typical kid because I know how to cover my tracks :)
November 21, 2003, 12:38 AM
Crim-Training
well, i consider my self lucky, my mum doesnt even know how to get into a game of solitare
November 23, 2003, 7:20 PM
Grok
Enjoy it while you can. What goes around, comes around.

When your kids are your current age, they'll know how to cover their tracks, and you'll be clueless about their technology.
November 23, 2003, 8:16 PM
MrRaza
maybe.....
November 24, 2003, 12:06 AM
ObsidianWolf
get a program or write your own =) to save your files to a portion of your disc, then mark that portion bad.
November 25, 2003, 11:37 PM

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