Hey guys, I wanna learn VB and C++. I got a dummies book for C++ but it like really sucks. I live in canada and the place I buy books at is Chapters. Know whats a good book thats a resonable price for me?

[me=CupHead]suggests eBooks.[/me]

They're free, and if you really like them, you can buy a hard copy.

http://planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=315

Actually, C++ for dummies is good, as is More C++ for dummies. I've never read them cover to cover, but I did read the first few chapters of each. The only part I didnt' like is how they introduced pointers (which are a difficult topic for people who are new to C++, it seems) very early.

Also, if you live near a University, I would suggest browsing their book store in the CS section. I find a lot more good books there than at regular bookstores, but you'll end up spending a lot more money. And I've never heard of a university only allowing students to purchase books.

Alright where could I get a VB one?

Iago, Im 13 years old, they wont let me in lol

[quote author=Mitosis link=board=30;threadid=3230;start=0#msg25470 date=1067034627]
Iago, Im 13 years old, they wont let me in lol
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They will.. if they're selling books for $80/each (like the University of Manitoba), they don't care who's buying them. Or you can get your parents to buy them :

I also live in Canada, and I used to buy my books at Chapters. I can tell you, it's much cheaper to buy your books from Amazon. You can get extremely good deals by buying second-hand books from sellers at the American website. I remember getting a book, which was selling for $89 in Chapters, for $10. Don't make the same mistake i've made in the past; make sure you research lots before dishing out $75 for a book.

Right now you need to pick a language and stick with it. Concentrate on learning that language. Once you know one language itt'l be much easier to learn another. Don't concern yourself with learning many right now, just learn how to program. You'll be one-up by going with C++ over, say VB.

If you're lucky, you might have a half price computer book store near you. (www.halfpricecomputerbooks.ca)

Are there any VB books on the net like that C++ one I just got? See I wanna get a variety, then print them off and decide which one I wanna learn first.

[quote author=Moonshine link=board=30;threadid=3230;start=0#msg25500 date=1067043094]
If you're lucky, you might have a half price computer book store near you. (www.halfpricecomputerbooks.ca)
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ACK! Those books are horribly expensive! About $20 higher than you might buy at Books-A-Million:
www.bamm.com.

For example, look at this one, for MCSD.NET Core Requirements:
HalfPriceComputerBooks, $135.99
http://www.halfpricecomputerbooks.com/book/0735619255

Books-A-Million, $107.99
http://www.booksamillion.com/ncom/books?id=2670904929391&pid=0735619255

Hey Grok, I am having a problem with one of the Ebooks. Could maybe you help me. Alright its a book for C++, and its in Adobe Acrobat. I want to print it and it wont let me. Know how I could?

[quote author=Mitosis link=board=30;threadid=3230;start=0#msg25581 date=1067090609]
Hey Grok, I am having a problem with one of the Ebooks. Could maybe you help me. Alright its a book for C++, and its in Adobe Acrobat. I want to print it and it wont let me. Know how I could?
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What do you mean "one of the ebooks"?

Hitman gave me this link for a book. http://planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=315
So I dled it and it wont let me print it out.

That book is in two volumes, I'm assuming you got the first one (which is 800+ pages). Are you sure you want to print all that out?

Well its the only one that teaches me anything I think, yeah I am willing to print it out to. My dad said I can, just put it on draft mode. But why doesnt it let me print it man?

Hitman, whats your aim man?

I have no idea why it wouldn't let you print it, I don't have a printer installed on this computer so I can't test it.

In my eyes, and thats why I save so much on college books, is that books are to give knowlege. They are not for looking pretty. I suggest searching out books online and then checking www.campusi.com They are a search engine that searches places like Amazon marketplace for used books. For C++ I'm reading C++: How to Program and a picture of the book for your reference can be found at :

http://www.deitel.com/books/cppHTP4/images/cppHTP4_large.jpg

If this book (which costs ~$120.00 but I got for roughly 75 of the above search engine) is too advanced, which is might be for a 13 year old (No offence, I was learning to program at 13 too ;) ) then I highly suggest www.johnsmiley.com Go to his site because his books are aim soley for beginners. I've read his Visual Basic 6 series and enjoyed it a lot. I havn't read his C++ or VB.net books but I'm sure they hold the same standards as his previous books did. They are cheap and inexpensive.

Also www.computerbooksdirect.com is where I went once, and might again to renew membership, to buy 3 books for literally 1.99 each. You just have to hold up your end by buying somwhere around 3 or 4 books during the course of the year, which at members price for 10.00 - 50.00 a book, isnt that bad at all.

I do suggest buying the books used because there's no point in spending an extra 100 bucks just to buy a prettier book that contains the same knowlege that the newer one costs.

Edit: If your aiming to learn Visual Basic, chose VB.net, don't learn 6. It's a waste to learn a previous version only to frustrate yourself with migrating to the new version. I recommend learning the language thats right for you, not listening to the bias opinions of others that are advocates for C++ and hate VB and vice versa.

[quote author=Mitosis link=board=30;threadid=3230;start=15#msg25590 date=1067092407]
Well its the only one that teaches me anything I think, yeah I am willing to print it out to. My dad said I can, just put it on draft mode. But why doesnt it let me print it man?
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"Draft mode" doesn't make sense here. PDFs are rendered graphically, not as text. I hope you have a laser printer V or better, because you'll be waiting a long time for a bubble jet to print that.

[quote author=DarkVirus link=board=30;threadid=3230;start=15#msg25594 date=1067092528]
They are cheap and inexpensive.
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Are you being redundant or are they shitty quality books? :P

Draft mode just makes it so it doesnt use up so much ink. Hitman what is your aim? But the print button doesnt work.

I don't think you'd have any trouble printing it from a word doc, would you? :P

Tried that. :( Well whats your aim Hitmen.

P.s (its me Chaosoft from madz)

Do you think you could name your posts something other than 'Guys'?

Sure, no problem. Sorry.

Mitosis, I got the 'C++ for dummies' too and dropped it, I can get up to a certain point and my mind stops absorbing for some reason. If you re-read things over and over over a couple of weeks, you gradually get farther but really it takes a long time. Like I said in the above forum, getting a tutor to teach you a simple language until you can become self sufficient is probably your best choice if you can afford it and you are interested enough.

[quote author=j0k3r link=board=30;threadid=3230;start=15#msg25731 date=1067136081]Mitosis, I got the 'C++ for dummies' too and dropped it, I can get up to a certain point and my mind stops absorbing for some reason.[/quote]

This made me laff. :)

Yeah, I am going to pay DarkVirus to teach me, then at Christmas when I have money I will actually buy GOOD books.

[quote author=Mitosis link=board=30;threadid=3230;start=15#msg25824 date=1067173478]
Yeah, I am going to pay DarkVirus to teach me, then at Christmas when I have money I will actually buy GOOD books.
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Hmm, you'll pay him now, but you don't have money til Christmas? Do I smell fraud?

If a transaction were to happen between us for any reason due to my services, and he decided to bounce out and not pay, I'd hate to see his face when I permanetly shut his box down 8)

Adron, I have money on the computer like paypal but none like in my bank account. Now understand what I mean?

[quote author=Mitosis link=board=30;threadid=3230;start=30#msg25937 date=1067198828]
Adron, I have money on the computer like paypal but none like in my bank account. Now understand what I mean?
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Didn't you tell me in an email that you didn't have paypal?

He said, "like paypal"

How many services "like paypal" are there out there ?

Just use "Bob's House o' Trading Moneys" .. you basically send Bob the money and that's about it.

For this purpose, I'll be Bob.

Well its my friends lol, hes going to pay for me.

[quote author=CupHead link=board=30;threadid=3230;start=0#msg25460 date=1067032865]
[me=CupHead]suggests eBooks.[/me]

They're free, and if you really like them, you can buy a hard copy.
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Good advice, but instead of buying them, I printed them off at my dad's work with a high speed printer. And best of all, for FREE!

By the way, Mitosis, make sure your printer is setup correctly, ie, re-check the settings and configuration. Make sure you selected the right printer and not the Fax option or anything else.

[quote author=Mitosis link=board=30;threadid=3230;start=30#msg26069 date=1067256012]
Well its my friends lol, hes going to pay for me.
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Your friend happens to trade in CCs?