From working overnight shifts, I find that tomorrow starts at about 4am. That's when I start saying "Good morning" to people who are starting, and that's also when I start saying "tonight" and "later today".

What do you think!!?

Next day starts when you go to sleep. Usually around that 4AM mark, for me :P

I think it's a stupid question.

i was told tomorrow never comes, for it is never ending.

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I think it's a stupid question.
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What's wrong with a stupid question? :-P

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I think it's a stupid question.
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What's wrong with a stupid question? :-P
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nothing wrong/stupid with the question its the pers....I might not want to finish this sentance.

I don't think it's a stupid question, actually, since it's actually come up a few times, especially when somebody says "tomorrow" or "tonight" during the night and you have to decide what they mean, just wondering what other people think of this :)

Tomorrow is when I wake up. Regardless of what time I go to sleep.
Even though some may argue that tomorrow never comes, I use it as a time reference that most people understand.

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From working overnight shifts, I find that tomorrow starts at about 4am. That's when I start saying "Good morning" to people who are starting, and that's also when I start saying "tonight" and "later today".

What do you think!!?
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I say "good morning" as a greeting (always), and "good night" when I'm about to go to sleep (at any time). I used to say "good morning" upon going to sleep at a time that the rest of the society defines as morning (like 9 AM), but I realized this is a lie. Morning and night are extremely subjective for me.

The local time is currently 7:53 AM. Good night!

So if tomorrow is the next day you go to sleep... What if you don't go to sleep for two days and sleep on the third day.

If I'm not planning to stay up all night and not sleep, then tomorrow starts after I wake up. Each day is one of my waking periods and "tomorrow" means "the day following this one". If I decide to stay up all night, "tomorrow" starts when I make the decision if it's late, or around 4 am if the decision is early.

The morning starts somewhere between 3-5 am. When the newspaper arrives, it's morning, and most of them start delivering at 4 am, some at 2 am. Good morning is valid either as a greeting to someone who has recently gotten out of their sleeping period, or as a reference to the morning starting.

Good night is never used in reference to a nice night awake, only to indicate that I am going to sleep, or as a response to someone else going to sleep - or at least logging off for the night.

Good evening can be used from around 7 pm to around 10-11 pm - later than that is night, but there's no appropriate greeting for that.

Please help building this list of valid greetings for various times of day. For example, in Swedish there's a "förmiddag" - which is the opposite of "afternoon". I'm not aware of any "prenoon" in English?

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Please help building this list of valid greetings for various times of day. For example, in Swedish there's a "förmiddag" - which is the opposite of "afternoon". I'm not aware of any "prenoon" in English?
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I think that would be morning.


To the people who said "when I wake up":
If it's 3am, let's say on monday night, and you tell someone that there's a good show on tv at "9am tomorrow morning". Then you sleep till, say, 10 or 11am, so they should assume that the show is on tv on wednesday morning? Clearly, that's not the case.

That's an interesting issue... If you tell someone to see it tomorrow morning, then they'll be up to see it and it will indeed be tomorrow morning.

However, if I at 6 am before going to sleep tell someone that there's a show at 6.30 am tomorrow morning, I will most probably refer to it being in 25 hours, not in 1 hour. So it does get a little confusing.

Ironically enough, I have always considered the next day to start at 5 am (the choice missing from the poll!), because lots of local channels start their show line-up for the next day at 5 am here.

The worst is when you drink every night, and begin to lose track of days. Everything just runs together in one long chain of events!

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When the newspaper arrives, it's morning, and most of them start delivering at 4 am, some at 2 am.[/quote]
hmmk... Here it's 6-7 am.

I think it is morning about 6 milleseconds before 12:00 AM . Seeing as the day is not exactly 24 hours long. It ends/begins either around 6 ms before or after 12.

If you really mean that the morning and tomorrow starting at 00:00 you'll have the interesting consequence that any tv program starting at 00:10 or so would have to be addressed as "tomorrow", not "today", which I doubt most people feel comfortable with. But then, maybe you don't watch late TV much.

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Ironically enough, I have always considered the next day to start at 5 am (the choice missing from the poll!), because lots of local channels start their show line-up for the next day at 5 am here.
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hmm, perhaps I'm the same way since most of my tv is based in a timezone that's at +1 hours from me :)

It seems odd to base your life on TV, though..

I don't, I just happen to like early morning TV.

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If you really mean that the morning and tomorrow starting at 00:00 you'll have the interesting consequence that any tv program starting at 00:10 or so would have to be addressed as "tomorrow", not "today", which I doubt most people feel comfortable with. But then, maybe you don't watch late TV much.
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Commercials? :P

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If you really mean that the morning and tomorrow starting at 00:00 you'll have the interesting consequence that any tv program starting at 00:10 or so would have to be addressed as "tomorrow", not "today", which I doubt most people feel comfortable with. But then, maybe you don't watch late TV much.
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Commercials? :P
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Commercials??

An interesting thought just hit me... It would be interesting to correlate the replies of "When my clock says so (12:00am/0:00h)" and "After I sleep, whenever that is" with the answer to the question: "Are you typically in bed by or near 12:00am/0:00h"

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An interesting thought just hit me... It would be interesting to correlate the replies of "When my clock says so (12:00am/0:00h)" and "After I sleep, whenever that is" with the answer to the question: "Are you typically in bed by or near 12:00am/0:00h"

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hell no...

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hell no...
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Well, you're weird anyway, calling middle of the night morning... If the morning starts at 00:00, then when is it night? Shouldn't you be going to sleep in the evenings, sleep all night and get up in the morning?

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hell no...
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Well, you're weird anyway, calling middle of the night morning... If the morning starts at 00:00, then when is it night? Shouldn't you be going to sleep in the evenings, sleep all night and get up in the morning?
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What is this sleep you speak of?

right now, it's 1:03am tuesday morning. However, I didn't sleep all sunday night, Adron could confirm that since I spent a good part of my night talking to him, and I got that sleep after school on monday, when I went to sleep around 4:30pm, and woke up about an hour ago. So that would make this monday morining? And when I go to sleep on tuesday evening and wake up, that would make your wednesday my tuesday?

Skipping sleep causes your entire system to break down

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Skipping sleep causes your entire system to break down
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Next time you and some friends have some free time, do a self-regulated sleep deprivation study. Inform each other that the first person that goes to sleep will be mercilessly abused. Ingest lots of coffee, caffinee, or other -- preferably legal(don't try this if you have a cokehead for a friend because he's not going to sleep.) -- stimulants, and see how many days you can go. Towards the end things can get pretty weird, plus it's a lot of fun messing with the first person to give up.

It would be more fun without coffee/stimulants. I never drink Coffee, and I'm regularely awake for 24 hours straight, so that would give me a natural advantage :)

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right now, it's 1:03am tuesday morning. However, I didn't sleep all sunday night, Adron could confirm that since I spent a good part of my night talking to him, and I got that sleep after school on monday, when I went to sleep around 4:30pm, and woke up about an hour ago. So that would make this monday morining? And when I go to sleep on tuesday evening and wake up, that would make your wednesday my tuesday?

Skipping sleep causes your entire system to break down
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No, following my system's rules, "tomorrow" started at the point when we were talking and you decided that you wouldn't get any sleep that night.