Valhalla Legends Forums Archive | Advanced Programming | Semi-OT, Wireless Graphing Calculator Link?

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St0rm.iD
I have a Ti-83 Plus and I was thinking of any way to have it communicate via radio waves (not IR). I can buy an extra cable and cut it to get at the wires.

I can program the driver if required, but I'm pretty clueless about hardware. Anyone have any ideas? Is there something like a generic "modem" for wireless?
September 8, 2003, 9:04 PM
DeeZ
A simple, but expensive solution can be found at http://www.moxa.com/
(that may have a tad more functionality than you want)


You could also use a dumb modem along with some RF transmitter/reciever (FM?). It could be a tough hardware project, but it sounds fun- and it's a lot cheaper than the former.

Good luck.
September 9, 2003, 3:23 AM
Camel
I would suggest starting out with a non-wireless link -- a couple of years ago I created a serial cable from a spare link cable. Then, you would be given the opportunity to write the driver. You could later enhance the project with a couple of RF transmitter/recievers.
September 9, 2003, 6:31 AM
Adron
Serial and wireless are rather different - on wireless you have so much noise that you have to be aware of and handle.
September 9, 2003, 4:17 PM
Camel
One can get a pre-made transmitter/reciever unit that could, in theory, be connected to a serial port on one end and the cable on the other. The idea behind this strategy is that St0rm will not be forced to purchase any hardware until he knows what he is getting into.
September 9, 2003, 9:48 PM
Adron
[quote author=Camel link=board=23;threadid=2626;start=0#msg20741 date=1063144138]
One can get a pre-made transmitter/reciever unit that could, in theory, be connected to a serial port on one end and the cable on the other. The idea behind this strategy is that St0rm will not be forced to purchase any hardware until he knows what he is getting into.
[/quote]

Just beware that once he hooks up the transmitter/receiver units, he'll start dropping bits/bytes and possibly getting garbage bits/bytes inserted.
September 10, 2003, 11:17 PM
iago
You would need some program not unlike tcp, where lost packets could be detected, and bad ones could be checked and re-requested. Sounds like fun :)
September 11, 2003, 12:33 AM
Camel
[quote author=Adron link=board=23;threadid=2626;start=0#msg20845 date=1063235867]Just beware that once he hooks up the transmitter/receiver units, he'll start dropping bits/bytes and possibly getting garbage bits/bytes inserted.[/quote]
The unit is supposed to take care of that; I'm not talking about just a simple transmitter/reciever.
September 11, 2003, 2:16 AM
Adron
[quote author=Camel link=board=23;threadid=2626;start=0#msg20876 date=1063246571]
[quote author=Adron link=board=23;threadid=2626;start=0#msg20845 date=1063235867]Just beware that once he hooks up the transmitter/receiver units, he'll start dropping bits/bytes and possibly getting garbage bits/bytes inserted.[/quote]
The unit is supposed to take care of that; I'm not talking about just a simple transmitter/reciever.
[/quote]

Oh ok. Well, that unit will probably be rather expensive.
September 11, 2003, 5:04 PM
iago
Which, I think, is why he recommended playing with a serial cable first :-)
September 11, 2003, 5:18 PM
Adron
You could also go straight for a not-so-expensive receiver/transmitter and accept handling noise yourself.
September 11, 2003, 10:24 PM
St0rm.iD
Was thinking of that route myself :)
September 11, 2003, 10:27 PM
Skywing
[quote author=Adron link=board=23;threadid=2626;start=0#msg20950 date=1063319068]
You could also go straight for a not-so-expensive receiver/transmitter and accept handling noise yourself.
[/quote]
Keep in mind that you have rather limited processing power on the calculator. You may want to make sure that handling all of the error correction and noise processing won't be too much for the calculators CPU.
September 14, 2003, 5:25 AM
Adron
[quote author=Skywing link=board=23;threadid=2626;start=0#msg21201 date=1063517156]
Keep in mind that you have rather limited processing power on the calculator. You may want to make sure that handling all of the error correction and noise processing won't be too much for the calculators CPU.
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True, but if you adapt the signalling rate to the calculator's abilities, it shouldn't be much of a problem.
September 14, 2003, 11:36 AM
Camel
[quote author=Adron link=board=23;threadid=2626;start=0#msg21212 date=1063539394]True, but if you adapt the signalling rate to the calculator's abilities, it shouldn't be much of a problem.[/quote]
In my experience, it's already slow as hell to get anything useful on my calculator. Last time I tried to transfer Mirage OS (which is under 40k) it took about five minutes.
September 14, 2003, 6:32 PM
Skywing
[quote author=Camel link=board=23;threadid=2626;start=0#msg21245 date=1063564368]
[quote author=Adron link=board=23;threadid=2626;start=0#msg21212 date=1063539394]True, but if you adapt the signalling rate to the calculator's abilities, it shouldn't be much of a problem.[/quote]
In my experience, it's already slow as hell to get anything useful on my calculator. Last time I tried to transfer Mirage OS (which is under 40k) it took about five minutes.
[/quote]
Which calculator do you have? That took just a few seconds on my TI-83+ with their wired connector thingie.
September 14, 2003, 7:13 PM
Camel
Same one.

[edit] Hrm, do you mean computer-calculator or calculator-calculator?
September 14, 2003, 9:12 PM

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