Valhalla Legends Forums Archive | Battle.net Bot Development | When is BnetDocs getting back on?

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soccerist
I'm making a Linux C/C++ -based bot. I've found your site most useful in the past. Just wondering when you'll get your server issues fixed, or maybe if you could change the host to your site. Thanks Arta.
August 28, 2003, 6:31 PM
FlAsH
Yes, i was wondering the same, maybe you could create a html backup for when shit happens to it, since it seemingly happens alot.
August 29, 2003, 9:33 AM
soccerist
Well, I think he wants the system managed with users so that an unknown person can't abuse the service. Or maybe it's so we can do posts. A regular html site WOULD be nice though. ;D
August 29, 2003, 5:29 PM
DrivE
Want one? Write one.

!~!HaZaRD!~!
August 29, 2003, 5:40 PM
WinSocks
why don't you just copy and past the stuff in there as txt files for future reference instead of relying on other people and their services... and then bitching about how you can't get anything free anymore for the time being.

Don't be relyant on computers THEY ARE EVIL!!
August 29, 2003, 7:47 PM
FlAsH
[quote author=soccerist link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=0#msg19443 date=1062178159]
Well, I think he wants the system managed with users so that an unknown person can't abuse the service. Or maybe it's so we can do posts. A regular html site WOULD be nice though. ;D
[/quote]

I really don't mind having it managed with users, but when you are trying to provide a service to the public, and you have a server which can't seem to handle what he would like to do, then what you like to do differs from what you SHOULD do.

[quote author=LoRD`NiKKoN link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=0#msg19453 date=1062186423]
why don't you just copy and past the stuff in there as txt files for future reference instead of relying on other people and their services... and then bitching about how you can't get anything free anymore for the time being.

Don't be relyant on computers THEY ARE EVIL!!
[/quote]

It's alittle late for that now isn't it :(
September 1, 2003, 2:22 AM
WinSocks
not for me i have it all down on in txt files on my comp, i always like to think ahead about possible problems such as what happened.
September 1, 2003, 4:20 AM
Camel
[quote author=LoRD`NiKKoN link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=0#msg19671 date=1062390001]
not for me i have it all down on in txt files on my comp, i always like to think ahead about possible problems such as what happened.
[/quote]

You should publish it, with Arta's permission of course. :)
September 1, 2003, 5:24 AM
Kp
The Valhalla server only has a PHP front-end to bnetdocs. All the data is still retrieved from Arta's computer on an as-needed basis. So when he goes offline, so does bnetdocs.
September 1, 2003, 5:41 AM
FlAsH
[quote author=Kp link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=0#msg19681 date=1062394904]
The Valhalla server only has a PHP front-end to bnetdocs. All the data is still retrieved from Arta's computer on an as-needed basis. So when he goes offline, so does bnetdocs.
[/quote]

Has anyone ever stopped to think about how dumb a concept that is? :-\
September 1, 2003, 8:24 AM
Grok
[quote author=FlAsH link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=0#msg19684 date=1062404672]
[quote author=Kp link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=0#msg19681 date=1062394904]
The Valhalla server only has a PHP front-end to bnetdocs. All the data is still retrieved from Arta's computer on an as-needed basis. So when he goes offline, so does bnetdocs.
[/quote]

Has anyone ever stopped to think about how dumb a concept that is? :-\
[/quote]

Distributed computing? Yes, its the dumbest thing since multiprocessing.
September 1, 2003, 1:34 PM
DrivE
[quote author=Grok link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=0#msg19691 date=1062423253]
Distributed computing? Yes, its the dumbest thing since multiprocessing.
[/quote]

+1 to Grok. A coy remark as usual.

!~!HaZaRD!~!
September 1, 2003, 1:51 PM
Adron
[quote author=Grok link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=0#msg19691 date=1062423253]
Distributed computing? Yes, its the dumbest thing since multiprocessing.
[/quote]

Indeed, when everyone knows that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, why add links to chains?
September 1, 2003, 4:21 PM
FlAsH
[quote author=Adron link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=0#msg19712 date=1062433314]
[quote author=Grok link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=0#msg19691 date=1062423253]
Distributed computing? Yes, its the dumbest thing since multiprocessing.
[/quote]

Indeed, when everyone knows that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, why add links to chains?
[/quote]

Perhaps making sure the chain has no weak links before you add to it, (get a better system :-\)
September 1, 2003, 10:59 PM
Arta
My server has not been down at all. BnetDocs broke when the subdomain bnetdocs.valhallalegends.com was added. I don't know why, and perhaps it's just a coincidence, but there were no code changes - to my knowledge, the subdomain was the only thing that's changed. I don't really understand why. I've asked someone to look into it but no one seems to have as yet. I've reviewed the code thoroughly, and it's functioning perfectly on my test server, so it's either a server bug or misconfiguration. I'm not really sure what more I can do.
September 1, 2003, 11:59 PM
DrivE
[quote author=Arta[vL] link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=0#msg19766 date=1062460741]
My server has not been down at all. BnetDocs broke when the subdomain bnetdocs.valhallalegends.com was added. I don't know why, and perhaps it's just a coincidence, but there were no code changes - to my knowledge, the subdomain was the only thing that's changed. I don't really understand why. I've asked someone to look into it but no one seems to have as yet. I've reviewed the code thoroughly, and it's functioning perfectly on my test server, so it's either a server bug or misconfiguration. I'm not really sure what more I can do.
[/quote]

This is how I see it. *Arta* offers his time and resources to produce a "library" of sorts for programming and development. If people don't like how its run they can do it themselves.

!~!HaZaRD!~!
September 2, 2003, 12:02 AM
Camel
Arta, why not just host bnetdocs yourself?

[edit] BTW, you might try checking the PHP error logs/turning error reporting on; in my experience with php, a totally blank page usually means error reporting is off and something went wrong.
http://www.php.net/error-reporting
September 2, 2003, 1:35 AM
Arta
Yes, I'm aware. Errors are intentionally turned off as a security measure. I don't want to host it myself, partially because I don't have much upstream, and partially because I don't feel like telling every tom dick and harry my IP address :)
September 2, 2003, 4:07 PM
iago
Perhaps you can have mirrors on different servers, in case one goes down?
[edit] If it would help, I'd mirror it.. my upstream is decent :)


There should be a seperate forum for people complaining about how Arta isn't helping them good enough :)
September 2, 2003, 5:09 PM
FlAsH
I also emailed arta offering him a backup host, and i haven't been contacted yet, so my guess is he isn't open to backups :-\

[QUOTE]My server has not been down at all. BnetDocs broke when the subdomain bnetdocs.valhallalegends.com was added. I don't know why, and perhaps it's just a coincidence, but there were no code changes - to my knowledge, the subdomain was the only thing that's changed. I don't really understand why. I've asked someone to look into it but no one seems to have as yet. I've reviewed the code thoroughly, and it's functioning perfectly on my test server, so it's either a server bug or misconfiguration. I'm not really sure what more I can do.[/QUOTE]

Have you tried removing that subdomain? (since it seems to be the cause of the problem)

[QUOTE]not for me i have it all down on in txt files on my comp, i always like to think ahead about possible problems such as what happened. [/QUOTE]

perhaps you can send me these?
September 3, 2003, 12:02 AM
FLiPPY_
[quote]This is how I see it. Adron offers his time and resources to produce a "library" of sorts for programming and development. If people don't like how its run they can do it themselves.[/quote]
Don't you mean Arta..? Im confused lol :P
September 3, 2003, 12:57 AM
FlAsH
[quote author=FLiPPY_ link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=15#msg19861 date=1062550666]
[quote]This is how I see it. Adron offers his time and resources to produce a "library" of sorts for programming and development. If people don't like how its run they can do it themselves.[/quote]
Don't you mean Arta..? Im confused lol :P
[/quote]

Yes, I believe thats what he meant.

[quote]This is how I see it. Adron offers his time and resources to produce a "library" of sorts for programming and development. If people don't like how its run they can do it themselves.[/quote]

it isn't that we have problems with how it's run, it's the fact that more often then not, it doesn't run.
September 3, 2003, 1:12 AM
Soul Taker
Until that last post, every post on this page was edited. Makes me wonder how much sleep you guys get.
September 3, 2003, 1:18 AM
Adron
Wheeee, I get free credits :P

Anyway, if there's a problem with bnetdocs still, due to some misconfiguration, maybe Arta could tell me some time that would be good for him and we could look into it?
September 3, 2003, 9:44 PM
FlAsH
Is it just totally gone now?
September 4, 2003, 2:14 AM
DrivE
[quote author=FLiPPY_ link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=15#msg19861 date=1062550666]
[quote]This is how I see it. Adron offers his time and resources to produce a "library" of sorts for programming and development. If people don't like how its run they can do it themselves.[/quote]
Don't you mean Arta..? Im confused lol :P
[/quote]

Yes I do I apologize for the error on my part.
September 4, 2003, 2:27 AM
WinSocks
Flash it's gone till Arta fixes his Misconfiguration Bug/Error he got :\

If Arta is agreeable i will post it up as a same php based site to access the information. ;)

But if not then i will just enojy it to myself :D
September 6, 2003, 12:28 AM
Arta
I appreciate the offers of mirrors and backup hosts but I can't accept them at present. Because so much of the information on BnetDocs is private I can't risk letting it into the hands of a third party. Thanks for the offers though! As I said, I do appreciate it.

Adron: I should be around tonight and tomorrow, and the day after, and uhm.. most of the time, really :) I'll poke ou on MSN at some point.
September 6, 2003, 1:25 PM
Adron
[quote author=Arta[vL] link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=15#msg20339 date=1062854716]
Adron: I should be around tonight and tomorrow, and the day after, and uhm.. most of the time, really :) I'll poke ou on MSN at some point.
[/quote]

I've looked for you at various times last weekend and this week actually. I had an unrelated question. But ok, poke me when you want help. I'll possibly be gr gaming if you get no response.
September 6, 2003, 3:39 PM
Camel
[quote author=Arta[vL] link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=15#msg20339 date=1062854716]I appreciate the offers of mirrors and backup hosts but I can't accept them at present. Because so much of the information on BnetDocs is private I can't risk letting it into the hands of a third party. Thanks for the offers though! As I said, I do appreciate it.[/quote]

Two solutions come to mind:
1) Make a copy with only the public info.
2) Use lycos -- I believe they are supporting PHP now.
September 6, 2003, 10:09 PM
Arta
[quote author=Adron link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=15#msg20348 date=1062862772]
I've looked for you at various times last weekend and this week actually.[/quote]

I was away for a few days, but I'm back now.
September 7, 2003, 12:22 AM
FlAsH
[quote author=Arta[vL] link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=15#msg20339 date=1062854716]
1) Make a copy with only the public info.
[/quote]

Indeed, that seems like the best idea, that or make the private info public :)
September 8, 2003, 8:21 AM
iago
Isn't there some rule against advertising here? :-P
September 11, 2003, 1:46 AM
Camel
[quote author=iago link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=30#msg20872 date=1063244765]Isn't there some rule against advertising here? :-P[/quote]
I believe it is simply frowned upon, not prohibited.
September 11, 2003, 2:19 AM
iago
[me=iago]frowns[/me]
September 11, 2003, 1:47 PM
St0rm.iD
Why was it deleted...?
September 11, 2003, 7:36 PM
hismajesty
[quote author=St0rm.iD link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=30#msg20928 date=1063309011]
Why was it deleted...?
[/quote]

I was wondering the same thing
September 11, 2003, 7:55 PM
Adron
Why was what deleted?
September 11, 2003, 10:25 PM
hismajesty
The link to their bnet docs ripoff within this thread.
September 11, 2003, 10:27 PM
St0rm.iD
wiki.ik0ns.com :)
September 11, 2003, 10:28 PM
hismajesty
Yep they didn't delete the other post...And even if they did..I bookmarked it. ;D
September 11, 2003, 11:13 PM
St0rm.iD
We encourge people to contribute information/sample code to it :)
September 11, 2003, 11:52 PM
hismajesty
[quote author=St0rm.iD link=board=17;threadid=2486;start=30#msg20962 date=1063324328]
We encourge people to contribute information/sample code to it :)
[/quote]

I will later. Right now I'm busy ripping my hair out over a coding block I've had since last night. >:(
September 12, 2003, 12:30 AM
FlAsH
I think we can safely say bnetdocs is gone for good.
September 21, 2003, 9:30 PM
St0rm.iD
We won't miss it :)
September 21, 2003, 9:55 PM
Arta
I'm still trying to get it fixed. I'm also lazy, though. Should be back some time this week.
September 24, 2003, 4:08 AM

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