http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/08/19/HNmsnlockdown_1.html

Nooo, Trillian! :(

I'm sure 3rd party software will be prepared with the newest version.. if not, /over :)

You do not know how they plan on doing the verification of their client so being "sure" that 3ed party software will be able to use their servers is dumb.

Eventually it'll be fixed, though

Will the new version have Palladium or something in it?

Fixed? What if they have authentication similar to Skywings BC? How do you fix that?

[quote author=Naem link=board=2;threadid=2416;start=0#msg18901 date=1061613454]
Will the new version have Palladium or something in it?
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It might, but i think Palladium is developed for Windows OS's.

[quote author=Invert link=board=2;threadid=2416;start=0#msg18880 date=1061595069]
You do not know how they plan on doing the verification of their client so being "sure" that 3ed party software will be able to use their servers is dumb.
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Actually, I have a very good idea how, given that I already support emulating MSN Messenger 5.0/Windows Messenger 4.7.

Their "ace in the hole" is a new, undocumented user authentication system based on Passport tickets and SSL. Additionally, they tried encrypting client challenge data in the executable (to no avail).

According to my research there are no now unknown commands which MSN Messenger 5.0 handles.

I'm confident that this won't be that much of a stopping point.

Ok Sir. MSNM is up to version 6.0 now and they plan on making you upgrade so everything you know about up to 5.* could be useless.

Do you know how 6.0 is different or will become different with their upcoming new patch and system?

Well, 6.0 supports webcam, and Skywing's bot doesn't, so obviously it's obsolete :P

[quote author=Invert link=board=2;threadid=2416;start=0#msg18946 date=1061671559]
Ok Sir. MSNM is up to version 6.0 now and they plan on making you upgrade so everything you know about up to 5.* could be useless.

Do you know how 6.0 is different or will become different with their upcoming new patch and system?
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Actually, they plan on making you upgrade to MSN Messenger 5.0 or Windows Messenger 4.7.

Besides that, I do know a bit about MSNP9, the protocol used by MSN Messenger 6.0. At least the basic authentication schemes were the same as MSNP8. Most of the additions were related to new commands to support the new features and functionality.

Yay, trillian has been updated and is now complaint. Ha!

Please update MSNClient, Skywing. :(

[quote author=Naem link=board=2;threadid=2416;start=0#msg21544 date=1063851599]
Please update MSNClient, Skywing. :(
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What needs updating the most? See if you can come up with a list for me.

For a day or two it was logging in, connecting, and disconnecting like a minute later. Works now... weird.

[quote author=Naem link=board=2;threadid=2416;start=0#msg21574 date=1063891068]
For a day or two it was logging in, connecting, and disconnecting like a minute later. Works now... weird.
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It's doing it again...

[quote author=Naem link=board=2;threadid=2416;start=0#msg21853 date=1064116572]
[quote author=Naem link=board=2;threadid=2416;start=0#msg21574 date=1063891068]
For a day or two it was logging in, connecting, and disconnecting like a minute later. Works now... weird.
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It's doing it again...
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Check to see if you have it set to use the proxy server. This was fixed awhile ago, but IIRC there was an issue with PNG/QNG and the HTTP proxy support which caused the proxy to hang up on you.

I'm not using the Proxy server, just checked. The main server I connect to is messenger.hotmail.com.