Hey,

Anyone else picking this up?  I definitely am...looks good, although almost a Crysis of MMO's for sure.  Still trying to get into the beta, signing up for all these contests and shit.
My guild and I are going to wreck some face!
Largescale pvp ftw.

yeah, i'll be getting it. im just looking forward to the nice graphics in a new mmo. wow's graphics look pretty bad now days, and yes im running it at full settings.

anyone have a fileplanet sub, get a key or whatever? :p

Let me know how it compares to the quality of WoW. I would jump ship on WoW if this game is what it says it is.

You need a decent computer to run it.  Run it in XP.  If it's in Vista, you need to have a monster computer to run it in dx10.
It's absolutely BEAUTIFUL, but is the Crysis of MMO's.
I got into the closed beta :P  NDA!

[quote author=cefx- link=topic=17464.msg178145#msg178145 date=1210144162]
You need a decent computer to run it.  Run it in XP.  If it's in Vista, you need to have a monster computer to run it in dx10.
It's absolutely BEAUTIFUL, but is the Crysis of MMO's.
I got into the closed beta :P  NDA!
[/quote]

Umm... the game went gold and is about to come out. What are you talking about NDA?!

NDA has been lifted.

i think he means hes a member of the national dance association, and they hooked him up with the beta membership. :P

[quote author=betawarz link=topic=17464.msg178148#msg178148 date=1210174481]
i think he means hes a member of the national dance association, and they hooked him up with the beta membership. :P
[/quote]

Well, in that case, he better not say anything about anything!

ummm no the nda hasn't been lifted for anything beyond level 20.
we can't say much beyond what we've experienced 1-20 :P
i'm in the closed general beta, not the fileplanet open beta.

[quote author=cefx- link=topic=17464.msg178198#msg178198 date=1210415317]
ummm no the nda hasn't been lifted for anything beyond level 20.
we can't say much beyond what we've experienced 1-20 :P
i'm in the closed general beta, not the fileplanet open beta.
[/quote]

Ok. So what will they do to you if you say something? Kick you out until May 20th?

Thats harsh  ::)

did they ever fix up whatever you said was going to be a problem? the pvp system, or something? i remember you mentioning that one of the aspects of the game heavily outweighted the other in popularity, unintentionally.

they've fixed the client a lot.

I'm still on the fence, but I'm going to buy it n try it.  Just one more week till we find out!
It'll be tough to tell, but the games success or failure should be known by the end of May.

The only concern right now is how buggy the endgame content - sieging, 24man raids, and player building/crafting - may or may not be.  We know their Q&A team is good, and that they have a lot of internal testers, as well as a large dev staff...
We know they're efficient.

On the other hand, their record with Anarchy Online is not good.

My two cents are betting on success - but I said the same thing about Fury, and it flopped hard.  This game has at least 20-30 times the number of people in beta, and waiting to buy it.

yeah, my guess to be honest is that conan flops, but not as quick as fury. conan wont be able to hold people away from wotlk, or warhammer. i say conan has no chance against those two. hell, even im going to go back to my rogue when wotlk comes out. ill be wow all the way. ill subscribe to conan for a month atleast, though.

Last night at a b-day party I spoke to a friend who is in the AoC beta. He told me that he thinks AoC will flop due to a significant amount of unresolved problems.

I am in the WAR beta and in its present form WAR is a failure. Why other developers can't live up to the Blizzard standards is a mystery. Maybe we are just going to be stuck with WoW (as the best mmo) until late 2010 when World of Diablo comes out. :)

Lets just play SC2 until then.

[quote author=Invert link=topic=17464.msg178237#msg178237 date=1210547935]
Maybe we are just going to be stuck with WoW (as the best mmo) until late 2010 when World of Diablo comes out. :)
[/quote]

Don't toy with me!

I won't buy it until I get confirmed that it is good to go. :)

[quote author=vuther.de link=topic=17464.msg178241#msg178241 date=1210553019]
I won't buy it until I get confirmed that it is good to go. :)
[/quote]

That should be a good rule with MMO's. Don't buy until it's confirmed to be at least as good as WoW.

[quote author=Invert link=topic=17464.msg178265#msg178265 date=1210661312]
[quote author=vuther.de link=topic=17464.msg178241#msg178241 date=1210553019]
I won't buy it until I get confirmed that it is good to go. :)
[/quote]

That should be a good rule with MMO's. Don't buy until it's confirmed to be at least as good as WoW.
[/quote]

And that would put (MMO companies - 1) out of business. :)

[quote author=Joe[x86] link=topic=17464.msg178269#msg178269 date=1210756758]
And that would put (MMO companies - 1) out of business. :)
[/quote]

Make a good game or go out of business. That sounds right to me.

So when's Guild Wars 2 coming out?

[quote author=Invert link=topic=17464.msg178274#msg178274 date=1210791682]
[quote author=Joe[x86] link=topic=17464.msg178269#msg178269 date=1210756758]
And that would put (MMO companies - 1) out of business. :)
[/quote]

Make a good game or go out of business. That sounds right to me.
[/quote]

Hence the :)

Is AoC going to be cheaper than WoW?

If you can't afford $0.50 a day you've got issues. I could bum twice that off of my friends on a *regular* basis.

DUDES... 5 DAYS

4.5 DAYS

[quote author=Newby link=topic=17464.msg178283#msg178283 date=1210811597]
If you can't afford $0.50 a day you've got issues. I could bum twice that off of my friends on a *regular* basis.
[/quote]

You only say that because you have never tried it.

As an experiment, bum 50 cents every day and see how easy it really is. If you feel like walking on the wild side try "twice that" (that would be a $1) and see if you can do it every day. Do this for a month and see if you have enough to pay for an MMO. You must bum $0.50 or $1 EVERY DAY and not just go and ask your friend for $15 or $30.

[quote author=Invert link=topic=17464.msg178288#msg178288 date=1210876761]
[quote author=Newby link=topic=17464.msg178283#msg178283 date=1210811597]
If you can't afford $0.50 a day you've got issues. I could bum twice that off of my friends on a *regular* basis.
[/quote]

You only say that because you have never tried it.
[/quote]

And you have?

[quote author=Warrior link=topic=17464.msg178289#msg178289 date=1210876875]
And you have?
[/quote]

Never. But I don't think bumming 50 cents a day from friends is easy. They will wonder why and then they will stop giving you the 50 cents. That is my prediction at least.

[quote author=Invert link=topic=17464.msg178290#msg178290 date=1210876968]
[quote author=Warrior link=topic=17464.msg178289#msg178289 date=1210876875]
And you have?
[/quote]

Never. But I don't think bumming 50 cents a day from friends is easy. They will wonder why and then they will stop giving you the 50 cents. That is my prediction at least.
[/quote]

Probably not, but I also don't think $15 a month is very expensive. I personally use the prepaid option for World of Warcraft, I stop and start playing a lot so it's much more friendly on my wallet.

[quote author=Warrior link=topic=17464.msg178291#msg178291 date=1210877074]
Probably not, but I also don't think $15 a month is very expensive. I personally use the prepaid option for World of Warcraft, I stop and start playing a lot so it's much more friendly on my wallet.
[/quote]

I agree, $15 a month is not very expensive. I just doubted his bumming strategy would ever work and thought it would make for an interesting experiment.

Newbie: Try responding again; this time use your intellect and without the insults.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say fifteen bucks a month is expensive. There's no way I'd pay nearly two hundred dollars a year just to play a game, no matter how fun it is.

[quote author=Andy link=topic=17464.msg178298#msg178298 date=1210891450]
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say fifteen bucks a month is expensive. There's no way I'd pay nearly two hundred dollars a year just to play a game, no matter how fun it is.
[/quote]

This is also fair to say. All of this depends on the individual's financial situation.

[quote author=Andy link=topic=17464.msg178298#msg178298 date=1210891450]
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say fifteen bucks a month is expensive. There's no way I'd pay nearly two hundred dollars a year just to play a game, no matter how fun it is.
[/quote]

Read the second part of my post.

Whether or not you're paying $180 every year is not the point. I'm saying that a $180/year, while the same statistic as $15/month, seems like a lot more, and in my opinion, better puts the cost in perspective.

But if you really enjoy the game, that $180 is worth it. Then again like Invert said, it also depends on your financial situation.

[quote author=Andy link=topic=17464.msg178305#msg178305 date=1210903517]
Whether or not you're paying $180 every year is not the point. I'm saying that a $180/year, while the same statistic as $15/month, seems like a lot more, and in my opinion, better puts the cost in perspective.
[/quote]

Again, read the second part of my quote. WoW offers a prepaid option. You buy minutes when you want to play.
If you dont play a lot, this is a much cheaper option. I guarantee you I don't pay anywhere near $180 a year.

wtf does prepaid have to do with anything. it's not cheaper. you're still paying $15 for a month of prepaid time. (if youre talking about the cards). i pay monthly with my credit card, and i'll cancel it every other month. i pay when i want to pay. prepaid is more liek blowing it, if you ask me, because it's 2-3 months back to back, when im only paying for a month, then skipping a month, then paying for another whenever i want. WTF WARRIOR. L2BRAIN.

Beta, what he's saying is he doesn't pay for the time he doesn't use. What he doesn't seem to realize is that the rate is still the same: $180 for 525,600 minutes, whether they're used in a row or not. I don't think that price is justifiable for a video game, but then again, I place very little value in any game.

[quote author=Andy link=topic=17464.msg178310#msg178310 date=1210923753]
What he doesn't seem to realize is that the rate is still the same: $180 for 525,600 minutes.
[/quote]

With price also comes usage, my method allows you to pay-as-you-use (as opposed to the method warz uses, which is recurring and one slip up and forget to hit "Cancel" and you've got a double charge, additionally my method makes a great gift :)). There's a huge difference in paying $15 a month and not even playing some months, as opposed to paying as you go and paying only what you play for.

I wasnt attacking the final cost, it's static. I was attacking your figure which with my method becomes invalidated, since it can potentially be $180 spread over more than a year -- which I'm certain is the case for me.

I think the problem is you're saying that a per year statistic is over the course of a single year, whereas I view it as an allotment of time, with no regard to whether or not its broken up. Meaning, you see it as a real "year" when I see it as a quantity of time.

[quote author=Andy link=topic=17464.msg178316#msg178316 date=1210975480]
I think the problem is you're saying that a per year statistic is over the course of a single year, whereas I view it as an allotment of time, with no regard to whether or not its broken up. Meaning, you see it as a real "year" when I see it as a quantity of time.
[/quote]

That's a really weird and misleading way to look at data.

That's the way businesses tend to do things.

[quote author=Andy link=topic=17464.msg178318#msg178318 date=1210980210]
That's the way businesses tend to do things.
[/quote]

Completely irrelevant, but ok.

ive never forgotten to cancel. only a noob would be dumb enough to do that. besides, its annoying to have to run to the store to buy more lame prepaid nigger cards. im white, i have a credit card.

[quote author=betawarz link=topic=17464.msg178332#msg178332 date=1211014833]
ive never forgotten to cancel. only a noob would be dumb enough to do that. besides, its annoying to have to run to the store to buy more lame prepaid nigger cards. im white, i have a credit card.
[/quote]

Lol, you try so hard.

i do what i do. been pimpin since pimpin been pimpin

You do realize you just insulted white people... Credit cards are horrible. Anyone with sense only uses Debit.

[quote author=betawarz link=topic=17464.msg178336#msg178336 date=1211069999]
i do what i do. been pimpin since pimpin been pimpin
[/quote]

yous an assistant pimp
repeat after me

whez mah bitches

[quote author=Andy link=topic=17464.msg178337#msg178337 date=1211071399]
You do realize you just insulted white people... Credit cards are horrible. Anyone with sense only uses Debit.
[/quote]

i thought the same thing until i got a job paying 70k a year while im in college. i have more money than i can handle right now. credit cards are just as easy.

Spending money you don't have is always easy.

[quote author=Andy link=topic=17464.msg178340#msg178340 date=1211074300]
Spending money you don't have is always easy.
[/quote]

Credit cards are pretty useful if you use them responsibly, unfortunately most college kids don't.

[quote author=betawarz link=topic=17464.msg178339#msg178339 date=1211073714]
[quote author=Andy link=topic=17464.msg178337#msg178337 date=1211071399]
You do realize you just insulted white people... Credit cards are horrible. Anyone with sense only uses Debit.
[/quote]

i thought the same thing until i got a job paying 70k a year while im in college. i have more money than i can handle right now. credit cards are just as easy.
[/quote]
What job is that? I'm getting your job when I go to college.

[quote author=Warrior link=topic=17464.msg178341#msg178341 date=1211077848]
[quote author=Andy link=topic=17464.msg178340#msg178340 date=1211074300]
Spending money you don't have is always easy.
[/quote]

Credit cards are pretty useful if you use them responsibly, unfortunately most college kids don't.
[/quote]

For real.

[quote author=vuther.de link=topic=17464.msg178342#msg178342 date=1211137094]
What job is that? I'm getting your job when I go to college.
[/quote]

Well, I'm almost out of college. I work at Nortel doing network protocol design, analysis and implementation for some future 4G phone implementations. I'm new to the company, and am really just learning the ropes. Most coding is done on linux, in C, and then debugged using cell phone platform emulators. Sorry vuther, no visual basic is used. :P

Um...yeah.

So how is Age of Conan?

let it be known - this game is badass

Server: Deathwhisper

Price of game and subscription?

games like 50, and its 15 a month. you get first month free, though. you can easily get real high level in a month, too, and see if you like it.

i got it this morning, and have been playing pretty relaxed... and i'm almost 20. max level is 80.

[quote author=betawarz link=topic=17464.msg178362#msg178362 date=1211338923]
games like 50, and its 15 a month. you get first month free, though. you can easily get real high level in a month, too, and see if you like it.

i got it this morning, and have been playing pretty relaxed... and i'm almost 20. max level is 80.
[/quote]

You are almost 20?! Nice...soon you will be able to play the MMO part.

i was focusing more on the fact that this game isn't just a grind session, like wow is. i played for probably a solid 2-3 hours, and got that far.

[quote author=betawarz link=topic=17464.msg178366#msg178366 date=1211396448]
i was focusing more on the fact that this game isn't just a grind session, like wow is. i played for probably a solid 2-3 hours, and got that far.
[/quote]

False accusation! From 0-70 I have never had to grind in WoW. AoC needs to develop a bit more, including fixing bugs and broken zones that don't work before I'll play it.

warz, get on AIM, I want to ask you some questions about it.

[quote author=Invert link=topic=17464.msg178368#msg178368 date=1211415919]
[quote author=betawarz link=topic=17464.msg178366#msg178366 date=1211396448]
i was focusing more on the fact that this game isn't just a grind session, like wow is. i played for probably a solid 2-3 hours, and got that far.
[/quote]

False accusation! From 0-70 I have never had to grind in WoW. AoC needs to develop a bit more, including fixing bugs and broken zones that don't work before I'll play it.
[/quote]

What? You do know that "Kill X amount of Y" is essentially a grind right? There's no way you went 1-70 with no grinding.

Anyhow, I think you're right and I will wait before picking up Age of Conan.

yea. although it's an mmo, i'm still not feeling the open-ness that you feel with wow. it feels like it kind of funnels you through some storyline. ive heard it's only like this until 20, though. even invert mentioned it. so who knows. it's a kickass game, visually, and the combat system is tight, but it doesnt instantly strike me as something thats going to be over all better than wow.

it's like.. the game has all the big cool things, but is missing all the small every day use features.

Sounds like a good idea if it's only the first 20, sort of like an introductory tutorial.

A lot of MMOs are like that. LOTRO did it for like the first ten levels or something.

Oh, alright. I'm not really a gamer, so I wouldn't know. :-\

i don't know, either. this is the first time i've seen something like it. it's not so bad, though. you're still around hundreds of other people below level 20.

I'm thinking about buying it. I want to start getting into a MMO.

[quote author=Warrior link=topic=17464.msg178370#msg178370 date=1211431373]
What? You do know that "Kill X amount of Y" is essentially a grind right? There's no way you went 1-70 with no grinding.
[/quote]

I don't consider it grinding when it's part of a quest. The difference here is that the killing X amount of Y's will end up rewarding you at the completion of that task beyond the reward you would receive for just killing Y's without limit.

[quote author=vuther.de link=topic=17464.msg178376#msg178376 date=1211487273]
I'm thinking about buying it. I want to start getting into a MMO.
[/quote]

if you've got the very minimum, 2gb of ram, and a 512mb video card, and dont mind running it on lowest settings then yeah... it's worth it.

[quote author=Invert link=topic=17464.msg178377#msg178377 date=1211493850]
I don't consider it grinding when it's part of a quest. The difference here is that the killing X amount of Y's will end up rewarding you at the completion of that task beyond the reward you would receive for just killing Y's without limit.
[/quote]
kind of like drinking games...

It's great.  I started...Tuesday?  And I'm level 32.  Mind you, I had some help/existing knowledge, so it may take a little bit longer the first time around. :)

[quote author=warz link=topic=17464.msg178379#msg178379 date=1211497663]
[quote author=vuther.de link=topic=17464.msg178376#msg178376 date=1211487273]
I'm thinking about buying it. I want to start getting into a MMO.
[/quote]

if you've got the very minimum, 2gb of ram, and a 512mb video card, and dont mind running it on lowest settings then yeah... it's worth it.

[quote author=Invert link=topic=17464.msg178377#msg178377 date=1211493850]
I don't consider it grinding when it's part of a quest. The difference here is that the killing X amount of Y's will end up rewarding you at the completion of that task beyond the reward you would receive for just killing Y's without limit.
[/quote]
kind of like drinking games...
[/quote]
Eh.. I only have a 8600GTS and that's only 256MB. I'm running on 1680x1050 resolution. I'm guessing that won't be good enough eh?

So is the game very fun? Very buggy? Come on.. fill me in on the details.

[quote author=vuther.de link=topic=17464.msg178418#msg178418 date=1212019683]
So is the game very fun? Very buggy? Come on.. fill me in on the details.
[/quote]

just play wow on daggerspine.

i play on Bloodspire as a PoM, I haven't logged in... in a bit.  took me 3 days of casual play to get to level 34.  pvp was phenominal but its a bit boring not have a clue who anyone is.

I have a 38 Dark Templar on Darkwhisper. Very fun game, I like it alot.

Looks like I won't be renewing my WoW subscription this month  ;D I haven't  bought Conan yet but yall are making it sound boss.

I hit 80 on my guardian, lots of fun on it.  I'm leveling a Bear Shaman on Zug now, playing with some friends.  I got kicked out of my 80 guild for refusing to farm pve resources after getting powerleveled haha.  I hate PvE.
Extremely easy to level on PvE..no interruptions - FFA PvP can still occur in the Border Kingdoms, just nowhere else.  too many dbags on Deathwisper/Tyranny.

I'm currently lvl 48. It's pretty fun so far, I wish they would fix alot of the bugs I've encountered, but I'm sure fixes will come.