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Barabajagal
Other Starcraft Expansion Packs?
StarCraft: Retribution
StarCraft: Insurrection
I'm downloading em both off some torrents, and I'll upload em to my site when I'm done. Did anyone else know about these?
May 29, 2007, 2:25 PM
Spht
That brings back memories ...
May 29, 2007, 2:42 PM
Disco
[quote author=Spht link=topic=16740.msg169494#msg169494 date=1180449753]
That brings back memories ...
[/quote]

Yeah.  I remeber seeing these for sale on ebay years back, but I always assumed they were just some fan created campaigns or something like that.  Never really bothered to look into them.
May 29, 2007, 4:48 PM
dRAgoN
Theres a few more campains that they did iirc, not sure if they were sold though.
May 29, 2007, 7:27 PM
LordNevar
They were basically just map packs from what I remember. Other than that I never really knew too much about them.
May 29, 2007, 8:29 PM
Barabajagal
Well, Retribution finished downloading, just waiting on Insurrection now.
May 29, 2007, 8:36 PM
Quarantine
They are "unofficial" addons made by other people. Retribution is quite good.
May 29, 2007, 9:25 PM
Barabajagal
Actually, it says they're both endorsed and authorized by Blizzard...
May 29, 2007, 9:33 PM
Quarantine
unofficial and authorized are two distinct things..
May 29, 2007, 9:40 PM
LordNevar
Like Diablo - Hellfire, Blizzard authorized Sierra to make it, but officially didn't want anything to do with it.
May 29, 2007, 9:59 PM
Barabajagal
[quote]Retribution is an authorized expansion pack to StarCraft, published in 1998 by WizardWorks Software, independently from but endorsed by Blizzard Entertainment.[/quote]

[quote]StarCraft: Insurrection (formally known as Insurrection: Campaigns for StarCraft) is an authorized add-on pack for StarCraft developed and published by Aztech New Media and released on July 31, 1998.[/quote]

From the wiki pages I linked to. Next time, read the links a little bit. Those are the first sentences on both pages.
May 29, 2007, 10:59 PM
Quarantine
[quote author=·RealityRipple· link=topic=16740.msg169509#msg169509 date=1180479569]
[quote]Retribution is an authorized expansion pack to StarCraft, published in 1998 by WizardWorks Software, independently from but endorsed by Blizzard Entertainment.[/quote]

[quote]StarCraft: Insurrection (formally known as Insurrection: Campaigns for StarCraft) is an authorized add-on pack for StarCraft developed and published by Aztech New Media and released on July 31, 1998.[/quote]

From the wiki pages I linked to. Next time, read the links a little bit. Those are the first sentences on both pages.
[/quote]

AUTHORIZED AND OFFICIAL ARE DIFFERENT THINGS. Official is when it's produced, marketed, and sold by Blizzard entertainment.

Next time, get your facts right before you try to be an asshole.  I wish I could make a machine to stick my hand through your monitor, grab your face, and bash it on your PLUM keyboard over and over.
May 29, 2007, 11:08 PM
Barabajagal
I'd say anything that's authorized and endorsed by Blizzard can be counted as official. I think you're using official incorrectly.
May 29, 2007, 11:59 PM
Quarantine
[quote author=·RealityRipple· link=topic=16740.msg169513#msg169513 date=1180483148]
I'd say anything that's authorized and endorsed by Blizzard can be counted as official. I think you're using official incorrectly.
[/quote]

I think you're using it incorrectly. You can authorize and endorse something without it being an Official product made by Blizzard.

Do you see a special version code for Insurrection or Retribution? Do you see special Battle.net icons for it? Do you even  see any new units/tilesets added? Any new functionality?

NO. It's a goddamn map pack.


May 30, 2007, 12:10 AM
Barabajagal
It's still recognized by Blizzard as an expansion pack... that's what Authorized tends to mean in this context... recognized as part of something by the creator of said something. How much more official does it need to be for it to be official?
May 30, 2007, 12:19 AM
Quarantine
[quote author=·RealityRipple· link=topic=16740.msg169517#msg169517 date=1180484354]
It's still recognized by Blizzard as an expansion pack... that's what Authorized tends to mean in this context... recognized as part of something by the creator of said something. How much more official does it need to be for it to be official?
[/quote]

It's recognized by Blizzard as an Add on. Brood War is an expansion pack.

I still can't believe you're saying this is an official expansion pack. Open your eyes.
May 30, 2007, 12:34 AM
Barabajagal
The wiki page for Retribution says it's an expansion pack. If you dispute that, tell wiki, not me. The page says I'm right.
May 30, 2007, 12:57 AM
Quarantine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:RetributionBox.jpg

and

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Insurrection.jpeg

vs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:StarCraft.Brood_War.front_cover.jpg

Which one is labeled Addon and which one is labeled Expansion Pack?
Use a little common sense..
May 30, 2007, 1:11 AM
Barabajagal
I don't see "Add-ons" anywhere on the insurrection box. And like I said, take it up with wiki, not me
May 30, 2007, 1:35 AM
l2k-Shadow
in case you did not know, wiki is edited by users, it does not have to be 100% factual and certain content may be misleading.
May 30, 2007, 2:02 AM
Quarantine
[quote author=·RealityRipple· link=topic=16740.msg169523#msg169523 date=1180488943]
I don't see "Add-ons" anywhere on the insurrection box. And like I said, take it up with wiki, not me
[/quote]

We all know, wiki's have more accurate information that Blizzard itself right? Blizzard may have authorized it, but I've never seen them "endorse" anything. There has never been any kind of press release or even hint that it existed.

If you want to know the history of both of them, both of the products died out and it's impossible to find them in stores now. So much for an "expansion pack" right?
May 30, 2007, 3:29 AM
Barabajagal
You can buy Insurrection off Amazon.com . And maybe you didn't quite understand.... there's absolutely no point whatsoever in telling me any of this, because I'm not Wikipedia. Tell them to change it and get off my fucking back about some bullshit terminology. It expands the gameplay, therefore it's an expansion. That's my translation of expansion. If you don't like it, [u]too fucking bad[/u]. I try to bring something i thought was interesting to light, and all you can do is yell at me cause I called them expansion packs. What the fuck is wrong with you? You be gettin no pussy either?
May 30, 2007, 4:28 AM
MyStiCaL
[quote author=·RealityRipple· link=topic=16740.msg169536#msg169536 date=1180499321]You be gettin no pussy either?
[/quote]

eaither? LOL.. im sure everyone here gets theres no matter how nerdy you are. the question would be wats the girl you tappin look like =P
May 30, 2007, 6:03 AM
Barabajagal
Have you been reading Tell Us Now?
May 30, 2007, 6:40 AM
Quarantine
[quote author=·RealityRipple· link=topic=16740.msg169536#msg169536 date=1180499321]
Tell them to change it and get off my fucking back about some bullshit terminology. It expands the gameplay, therefore it's an expansion. That's my translation of expansion. If you don't like it, [u]too fucking bad[/u]. I try to bring something i thought was interesting to light, and all you can do is yell at me cause I called them expansion packs.
[/quote]

Funny thing is, you still they are an expansion pack even though you insist it's wikipedia's fault. Holy hell, no wonder you had to drop out of school.

I also guarantee I've been with more girls on accident then you on purpose. What do you do when you meet them, "Hey, let me show you this poetry I wrote" or "I may not be good looking, but shit I'm certified in VB"
May 30, 2007, 10:24 AM
FrOzeN
[quote author=Warrior link=topic=16740.msg169541#msg169541 date=1180520694]I also guarantee I've been with more girls on accident then you on purpose. What do you do when you meet them, "Hey, let me show you this poetry I wrote" or "I may not be good looking, but shit I'm certified in VB"[/quote]More like "Hey, will you go out with me? *pause* C'mon, I got this relationship certificate that proves I'm a good partner to have."
May 30, 2007, 11:24 AM
Barabajagal
Actually, I hate people, and I think relationships are a waste of time, money and energy. The human race is already way too overpopulated, so I see no point in procreation. I also hate myself, and as such, don't believe in imposing myself upon others IRL (Internet's different, because anyone who interacts with me does so of their own volition online. Offline, there's no squelch button), so I don't talk to people unless they talk to me.
I've felt emotionally attracted to one person in my entire life, and it wasn't mutual, so I gave up on her. I've never felt a physical attraction in my life, and don't really care to.
May 30, 2007, 5:34 PM
MyStiCaL
lol, and no why whats in tell me now?
May 30, 2007, 8:40 PM
Barabajagal
Right above your post in it...
[quote author=Warrior link=topic=3771.msg169479#msg169479 date=1180381135]
you dont be gettin no pussy
[/quote]
May 30, 2007, 9:08 PM
crankycefx
This thread is awesome.
Keep it up.
May 30, 2007, 11:08 PM
Newby
[quote author=·RealityRipple· link=topic=16740.msg169517#msg169517 date=1180484354]
It's still recognized by Blizzard as an expansion pack... that's what Authorized tends to mean in this context... recognized as part of something by the creator of said something. How much more official does it need to be for it to be official?
[/quote]

Hellfire is still an "expansion pack" to the original Diablo, even though Blizzard had nothing to do with its development.
May 31, 2007, 3:40 AM
l2k-Shadow
Thing is hellfire brings new content to the game itself, aka altering the game, kinda like broodwar brings new units. Those addons don't alter the game, they are just a bunch of maps that anyone could make without having any programming knowledge or source code to the game.
May 31, 2007, 5:06 AM
BreW
exactly, shadow. that's the reason why insurrection and that other one are map packs, maybe they just might be approved by blizzard, but it's still a map pack.
June 1, 2007, 7:47 PM
HeRo
You all need some cocaine.

[img]http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7488/1168655578328gy0.jpg[/img]
June 6, 2007, 6:20 AM
idiat
[quote author=Warrior link=topic=16740.msg169521#msg169521 date=1180487485]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:RetributionBox.jpg

and

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Insurrection.jpeg

vs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:StarCraft.Brood_War.front_cover.jpg

Which one is labeled Addon and which one is labeled Expansion Pack?
Use a little common sense..
[/quote]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/2/28/20070519211654%21Insurrection.jpeg
June 7, 2007, 6:53 PM

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