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nahud
http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/content/articles/2006/12/06/divide_zero_feature.shtml

funny read, can't believe it actually got posted as news on bbc. poor grade school kids
December 7, 2006, 5:08 PM
Rule
Haha, I can solve difficult problems by making up answers and giving them a symbol and a cool name too :P.  How enlightened everyone shall be!

From comments: "Good idea, because it happens all the time that pacemakers divide by zero and stop working."
December 7, 2006, 7:50 PM
Yoni
Pfffffffft.

I can't find the video.
December 8, 2006, 10:01 AM
l2k-Shadow
OK, so basically instead of an error, we'll now use a number which is not plottable on the number line. That makes much more difference as to solving problems that divide by 0. Can someone enlighten me on how should we graph 1/nullity plz?  ::) what people can do now-a-days to get famous. *sigh*
December 9, 2006, 3:30 AM
rabbit
It's easy.  We make a new coordinate system to graph numbers of nullity.
December 9, 2006, 1:11 PM
l2k-Shadow
[quote author=rabbit link=topic=16118.msg162406#msg162406 date=1165669894]
It's easy.  We make a new coordinate system to graph numbers of nullity.
[/quote]

LOL
December 9, 2006, 10:37 PM
rabbit
[quote author=l2k-Shadow link=topic=16118.msg162413#msg162413 date=1165703845]
[quote author=rabbit link=topic=16118.msg162406#msg162406 date=1165669894]
It's easy.  We make a new coordinate system to graph numbers of nullity.
[/quote]

LOL
[/quote]What?  We did it with i :P
December 10, 2006, 1:20 AM
Yoni
Sorry, I read his papers 2 weeks ago and forgot to post my comments. Here.

[quote]
Ewok          2006-12-08 13:21:15 oh
Ewok          2006-12-08 13:21:16 http://www.bookofparagon.com/News/News_00012.htm
Ewok          2006-12-08 13:21:21 here, you can understand it
Ewok          2006-12-08 13:21:24 *runs*
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 13:26:39 now THAT overview is written in a more mathematical language
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 13:26:43 unfortunately it still looks like crap
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 13:27:24 well, it's only 13 pages
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 13:27:26 i'll read it
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:13:07 the paper is badly written
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:13:53 and contains mistakes
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:14:16 and stupid propositions
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:14:24 basically, the paper says:
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:14:51 "we define Nullity and a few axioms, and feed the definitions to
                                  axiom-processing software - here are the results."
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:15:33 also, some of the definitions surrounding nullity make it seem really ugly and
                                  unnatural, and I doubt its usefulness
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:15:50 he had to break a few ground rules to fit it in
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:28:39 if I analyze the definitions of nullity, I can classify them into 2 categories:
                                  1. Preservation of nullity:
                                  nullity + anything = nullity
                                  nullity * anything = nullity
                                  -nullity = nullity
                                  (nullity)^-1 = nullity
                                  2. Reaching nullity:
                                  infinity - infinity = nullity
                                  infinity * 0 = nullity [this is the basis for the definition of nullity as 0/0,
                                  since 0^-1 = infinity according to his paper]
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:29:12 #2 show nullity to be nothing more than renaming the old word "undefined" that
                                  we've always used
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:29:33 and #1 show nullity to be something that propogates through your equations
                                  completely, making it completely useless anyway
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:30:26 I seriously doubt that this concept hasn't already been introduced by countless
                                  programmers working on algebra systems
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:32:01 in conclusion, Anderson isn't a total idiot, but his idea is unimportant and
                                  mispresented (it could have been presented as a method for checking software
                                  axiom checking systems, which he used)
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:32:04 THERE.
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:35:27 the 2nd paper tries to introduce nullity to infi, and it basically says
                                  "whenever you said the limit doesn't exist, now you should say it equals to
                                  nullity"
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:35:34 also, it references wikipedia
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:35:43 which is highly unprofessional, imo
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:38:24 "why does this difficulty persists"
Yoni @ ALSA!  2006-12-08 14:38:26 bad grammar, too
[/quote]
December 22, 2006, 10:58 AM
Rule
I don't think we should expect much if he is publishing his abstract mathematical ideas in the journal for "Photo-Optical Instrumentation Engineers."  In his interview he clings to the notion that his work was developed for computer science, so it is natural that mathematicians wouldn't initially accept or welcome it.  But he hasn't even published this work in a computer science journal!

December 23, 2006, 4:25 AM

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