| Author | Message | Time |
|---|---|---|
| GSX | I have a page set up in frames... Only issues being, is that one frame is larger than the page itself, and I want the page to stretch to fit the frame... I've googled about, and asked friends, and no anwers. Any help would be appreciated. | October 6, 2006, 5:46 AM |
| rabbit | Don't use frames. Use tables or divs (divs suck, use tables). | October 6, 2006, 10:54 AM |
| GSX | I would, but my site is entirely HTML (because I'm a retarded dumbass and I only know HTML and some VB6), and I have to update news frequently, and there's a shitload of pages (It's a flash animation/game site). So frames make it easy for me to keep the site organized and shit. I had it in tables before, but every time I added a link to the navigation bar, I'd have to go through like 30 pages and add it which was a pain in the ass. Sooo, switched it to frames, which caused this issue, and that's about it. Any other suggestions on how I can fix this? I tried putting the frames INTO a table so I could set the table height and shit, buuutttt that didn't work, the table just went over the frames. | October 6, 2006, 5:21 PM |
| rabbit | Are you on Geocities or some retarded shit like that? | October 6, 2006, 9:11 PM |
| GSX | Nope, my friend is hosting me. Not some gay free host bs. PS - Here's the source of my index.html page with the frames... It's not the cleanest, but I'm pretty sure you can get the idea... [code]<! #index.html > <TITLE>151</TITLE> <HTML> <frameset cols="13%,*"> <frame name="frmLeftNull" src="null.html" noresize scrolling="auto" frameborder="no" bordercolor="#050000"> <frameset cols="84%,*"> <frameset rows="19%,*"> <frame name="frmBanner" src="banner.html" noresize scrolling="auto" frameborder="no" bordercolor="#050000"> <frameset cols="19%,*"> <frame name="frmNav" src="nav.html" noresize scrolling="auto" frameborder="no" bordercolor="#050000"> <frame name="frmMain" src="news.html" noresize scrolling="no" frameborder="no" bordercolor="#050000"> </frameset> </frameset> <frame name="frmRightNull" src="null2.html" noresize scrolling="auto" frameborder="no" bordercolor="#050000"> </frameset> </frameset> </HTML> [/code] I don't want scrolling in my news section, nor in any other, I just left them in auto because the page isn't done yet... I just want it to expand the browser window so that the ENTIRE page is visible. (As of now, it only shows about half of frmMain's content, which is a problem.) | October 7, 2006, 4:50 PM |
| rabbit | Tables and PHP (all you'll need is include()). Way easier. | October 7, 2006, 9:37 PM |
| GSX | All right, I'll give that a go. Thanks. | October 8, 2006, 7:11 AM |
| KoRRuPT | [quote author=rabbit link=topic=15828.msg159489#msg159489 date=1160132056] Don't use frames. Use tables or divs (divs suck, use tables). [/quote] *laugh* tables are trash, divs > tables. | October 9, 2006, 1:07 AM |
| Scope | I find div's more effecient because you can implement CSS into them. Thats how most of the CMS websites use their systems, unless it has a pre-defined Module code that does all the work for you. | November 1, 2006, 4:32 PM |
| rabbit | CSS goes into anything. And of 3 large CMS I've written, I've always used table over div, and then span for specific bits. | November 1, 2006, 9:49 PM |
| Mitosis | Divs are meant for page layout, not tables. Instead of saying divs suck, Rabbit, you should probably look into how to write a website that follows semantics. Sure tables work, but they are not intended to create layouts, but display tabular data. http://www.cameronmoll.com/ has some great articles that may interest you. | November 5, 2006, 3:31 AM |
| rabbit | I can create an XHTML page which is W3 compliance using tables and spans, and no divs. So what's the problem? | November 5, 2006, 12:37 PM |
| FrOzeN | [quote author=rabbit link=topic=15828.msg160770#msg160770 date=1162730231] I can create an XHTML page which is W3 compliance using tables and spans, and no divs. So what's the problem? [/quote] http://webdesign.about.com/od/layout/a/aa111102a.htm http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php/topic,86595.0.html Overall, divs are much more flexible, and require less coding. | November 5, 2006, 1:43 PM |
| Mitosis | Your page may be valid, but it doesn't necessarily mean it fllows semantics. | November 5, 2006, 4:43 PM |
| KoRRuPT | [quote author=rabbit link=topic=15828.msg160413#msg160413 date=1162417757] CSS goes into anything. And of 3 large CMS I've written, I've always used table over div, and then span for specific bits. [/quote] No, CSS goes better into divs and gives you much more flexibility. [quote author=rabbit link=topic=15828.msg160770#msg160770 date=1162730231] I can create an XHTML page which is W3 compliance using tables and spans, and no divs. So what's the problem? [/quote] Neat. I can create that exact XHTML valid page in ~70% less characters. You do realize that your page would be composed of ~80% useless table code, ~10% other random code and ~10% content, which is terrible for SEO (Search engine optimization). Your website traffic will decrease by at least 50% by discouraging the crawlers with your messy useless code. I think you should get out of the 90's web development world and update your coding methods. | November 5, 2006, 7:04 PM |
| indulgence | Just so long as no one uses a damned "Wrapper" div on the global level - ill be happy. If you are trying to center content... style the HTML and BODY elements. kthx | November 16, 2006, 5:47 PM |
| Invert | Rabbit, you are wrong so stop giving people bad advice. Tables are meant for displaying tabular data and not for layout design. | November 16, 2006, 5:56 PM |
| Ersan | Yeah I get made fun of quite often because I'm in the habit of writing html to pre-css standards :( Use div's if you don't want to get ridiculed like me. | November 22, 2006, 11:17 AM |
| JoeTheOdd | [quote author=Akamas link=topic=15828.msg160792#msg160792 date=1162753474] I think you should get out of the 90's web development world and update your coding methods. [/quote] HTML traditional was much easier, bitched a lot less, and did everything I ever wanted it to do. I still use it to this day when I write HTML. | November 25, 2006, 2:58 AM |