How long will the BNLS system be available for? Does it plan to be constantly maintained for a considerable amount of time?


-Matt

BNLS is not yet a sentient entity, so it presently has no plans regarding availability or maintenance.

Meaning that BNLS is up and a free service so it can go down any time the owners of the servers choose too. Which is why relying on it is not the best idea, local hashing is the way to go.

[quote author=Win32 link=topic=15623.msg157440#msg157440 date=1157281181]
How long will the BNLS system be available for? Does it plan to be constantly maintained for a considerable amount of time?


-Matt
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It's been up for several years now, so I dont see why they'd just take it down.

Uhh, I dunno. I was thinking of taking it down next week or so. Is anyone using it?

[quote author=Yoni link=topic=15623.msg157449#msg157449 date=1157312588]
Uhh, I dunno. I was thinking of taking it down next week or so. Is anyone using it?
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Do it, I dare you.

[quote author=heRo link=topic=15623.msg157450#msg157450 date=1157316489]
[quote author=Yoni link=topic=15623.msg157449#msg157449 date=1157312588]
Uhh, I dunno. I was thinking of taking it down next week or so. Is anyone using it?
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Do it, I dare you.
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Double dare you -.-

[quote author=Spilled link=topic=15623.msg157454#msg157454 date=1157337661]
[quote author=heRo link=topic=15623.msg157450#msg157450 date=1157316489]
[quote author=Yoni link=topic=15623.msg157449#msg157449 date=1157312588]
Uhh, I dunno. I was thinking of taking it down next week or so. Is anyone using it?
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Do it, I dare you.
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Double dare you -.-
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Just do it.  I'll love you forever.

[quote author=Yoni link=topic=15623.msg157449#msg157449 date=1157312588]
Uhh, I dunno. I was thinking of taking it down next week or so. Is anyone using it?
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Do it then offer a subscription based usage. 30 day Trial version and complementary adware!

Maybe if you remove it less bots would be on this game. :Þ

[quote author=Omen link=topic=15623.msg157484#msg157484 date=1157397940]
Maybe if you remove it less bots would be on this game. :Þ
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well at least 90% of the bots either support the option to change the BNLS server or can login without it so no not really.

Even the idea of local hashing for bot users is too complicated. Read the stealthbot tech support sometime. I say shut it down for a day. See how crazy shit gets.

[quote author=FrostWraith link=topic=15623.msg157499#msg157499 date=1157420225]
Even the idea of local hashing for bot users is too complicated. Read the stealthbot tech support sometime. I say shut it down for a day. See how crazy shit gets.
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True I met people asking for support on how to unzip files.

As far as I know BNLS is able to automatically download the patch MPQ and upgrade it's hash files at the command of a single administrator. BNLS (the software itself) is damn near completely independant of human interaction as long as the server (machine) it's hosted on stays alive and running the program. Yoni and Skywing have placed UserLoser in charge of commanding patch updates, and if he resigned someone else would take the mantle. If not, it would probably take five minutes max to change the code to automatically log on to battle.net every hour with each client to find a new patch. Maybe longer to recompile, but not a big problem.

[quote author=replaced link=topic=15623.msg157503#msg157503 date=1157423820]
BNLS is running so they can log all every single keys, pwords, accounts, ips, proxies they can get their hands on!!!
[/quote]/me kills replaced

More on topic:  Just curious, but how much does it cost you guys to run BNLS?

[quote author=Sorc.Polgara link=topic=15623.msg157505#msg157505 date=1157424948]
[quote author=replaced link=topic=15623.msg157503#msg157503 date=1157423820]
BNLS is running so they can log all every single keys, pwords, accounts, ips, proxies they can get their hands on!!!
[/quote]/me kills replaced

More on topic:  Just curious, but how much does it cost you guys to run BNLS?
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I don't remember if it's hosted on Thing's server or not but if it is, ask Thing if he charges :P

Judging by a few posts somewhere (I don't remember) Thing provides it to vL free of charge. I don't think they ever came straight out and said it, but things like "take it easy on the server" and "thank him for his wonderful service" etc made it sound like it was given as a gift. So in that case the cost of BNLS would be free to host, for them, and cheap for thing considering it's only using bandwidth and a few processor cycles (it's optimized to hell and back, from what I understand) on a server he's already paid for.

EDIT -
As far as bandwidth, I'm interested in what it does use. I'd wager a few gigabytes per month. Yoni?

ummmm, they admitted to logging all keys and pwords that use bnls so if u happen to have ur account password changed and key banned u now know who did it.

You're just mad because you got scammed, and you don't know who did it, so you blame Skywing and Yoni.  Don't you know that Israelis can't lie?  It's in their DNA!

Anyway, what purpose would logging IPs and proxies do?  If they can dupe thousands upon thousands of people into sending their CD-Keys and Account passwords to them, do you really think they are stupid?  Did you know that Skywing invented proxies?

[quote author=replaced link=topic=15623.msg157518#msg157518 date=1157467861]
ummmm, they admitted to logging all keys and pwords that use bnls so if u happen to have ur account password changed and key banned u now know who did it.
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BNLS has been up for nearly 4-5 years at my count.  If the intention of the service was to log CdKeys, account names, and passwords, then why would it still be up today?

And even if they did log passwords, you can get your account back with e-mail registration, so it doesn't really matter.

[quote author=rabbit link=topic=15623.msg157519#msg157519 date=1157471127]
You're just mad because you got scammed, and you don't know who did it, so you blame Skywing and Yoni.  Don't you know that Israelis can't lie?  It's in their DNA!

Anyway, what purpose would logging IPs and proxies do?  If they can dupe thousands upon thousands of people into sending their CD-Keys and Account passwords to them, do you really think they are stupid?  Did you know that Skywing invented proxies?
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LOL

[quote author=Yoni link=topic=15623.msg157449#msg157449 date=1157312588]
Uhh, I dunno. I was thinking of taking it down next week or so. Is anyone using it?
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I think its a good option to have in a bot, specially if you don't have time, and the clients have updated and not wanting to waste the time you don't have to connect to new hash, bnls option is always there for you. =)

[01:36:33] Checking versions and CD-key...
[01:36:34] Error 10061 connecting to Battle.net logon server!
[01:36:34] Connecting to Battle.net logon server bnls.valhallalegends.com...
[01:36:36] Error 10061 connecting to Battle.net logon server!
[01:36:36] Connecting to Battle.net logon server www.valhallalegends.com...

LOL.

[05:40:01] EternalChat has failed to connect to the Battle.net logon server! Connection is forcefully rejected!

that blows..

<3

Awesome!

wait a minute... soo does yoni or skywing kinda have an estimate if bnls will be up much longer? or is it down for good =\ i don't wanna re-write it in my dll if its not gunna be sticking around... ;\

We still got JBLS, so you might as well rewrite it.

[quote author=FrostWraith link=topic=15623.msg157628#msg157628 date=1157669738]
We still got JBLS, so you might as well rewrite it.
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Either BNLS had a temporary downtime by coincidence, or whoever currently manages it was just fooling around with you. BNLS connected for me this morning no problem (about 3am).

It was jsut temporary.
Skywing had no comment when I asked him + His pager was off when it happened.

Yoni might of done it for kicks :P but it was only for ~12 hrs.
http://jbls.org/?p=Server
The server was still running but only 1 of the IP's was responding. (63.161.183.203 FYI)
So the server was always up, you jsut couldn't get to it by normal ~-~(HDX)~-~

bleh, i need to host my own but that would be alot of useless work. lol

[code]wget http://jbls.org/Downloads/JBLS.jar
wget http://jbls.org/Downloads/Zip.class
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/D2DV.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/D2XP.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/DRTL.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/DSHR.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/JSTR.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/SSHR.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/STAR.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/W2BN.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/WAR3.zip
java Zip D2DV.zip ./D2DV/
java Zip D2XP.zip ./D2XP/
java Zip DRTL.zip ./DRTL/
java Zip DSHR.zip ./DSHR/
java Zip JSTR.zip ./JSTR/
java Zip SSHR.zip ./SSHR/
java Zip STAR.zip ./STAR/
java Zip W2BN.zip ./W2BN/
java Zip WAR3.zip ./WAR3/
java -jar JBLS.jar[/code]

Not hard.
Maby I should make a dos/shell script to install it all for ya?
Lets see how long it takes for Sky/Yoni to delete this!
Or one of the otehr mods <3
~-~(HDX)~-~

[quote author=HdxBmx27 link=topic=15623.msg157668#msg157668 date=1157695188]
[code]wget http://jbls.org/Downloads/JBLS.jar
wget http://jbls.org/Downloads/Zip.class
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/D2DV.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/D2XP.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/DRTL.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/DSHR.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/JSTR.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/SSHR.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/STAR.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/W2BN.zip
wget http://skull.newrelic.net/downloads/uploads/WAR3.zip
java Zip D2DV.zip ./D2DV/
java Zip D2XP.zip ./D2XP/
java Zip DRTL.zip ./DRTL/
java Zip DSHR.zip ./DSHR/
java Zip JSTR.zip ./JSTR/
java Zip SSHR.zip ./SSHR/
java Zip STAR.zip ./STAR/
java Zip W2BN.zip ./W2BN/
java Zip WAR3.zip ./WAR3/
java -jar JBLS.jar[/code]

Not hard.
Maby I should make a dos/shell script to install it all for ya?
Lets see how long it takes for Sky/Yoni to delete this!
Or one of the otehr mods <3
~-~(HDX)~-~
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ah, well if your down to help me out hit me up =)

What did you use to get these lines to work
[code]java Zip D2DV.zip ./D2DV/
java Zip D2XP.zip ./D2XP/
java Zip DRTL.zip ./DRTL/
java Zip DSHR.zip ./DSHR/
java Zip JSTR.zip ./JSTR/
java Zip SSHR.zip ./SSHR/
java Zip STAR.zip ./STAR/
java Zip W2BN.zip ./W2BN/
java Zip WAR3.zip ./WAR3/[/code]

[quote author=FrostWraith link=topic=15623.msg157691#msg157691 date=1157745921]
What did you use to get these lines to work
[code]java Zip D2DV.zip ./D2DV/
java Zip D2XP.zip ./D2XP/
java Zip DRTL.zip ./DRTL/
java Zip DSHR.zip ./DSHR/
java Zip JSTR.zip ./JSTR/
java Zip SSHR.zip ./SSHR/
java Zip STAR.zip ./STAR/
java Zip W2BN.zip ./W2BN/
java Zip WAR3.zip ./WAR3/[/code]
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The Sun Java Runtime Environment (JRE) and his Zip class (see Zip.class as one of his downloads).

[code]wget http://jbls.org/Downloads/ZIP.class
java ZIP D2DV.zip ./D2DV/
java ZIP D2XP.zip ./D2XP/
java ZIP DRTL.zip ./DRTL/
java ZIP DSHR.zip ./DSHR/
java ZIP JSTR.zip ./JSTR/
java ZIP SSHR.zip ./SSHR/
java ZIP STAR.zip ./STAR/
java ZIP W2BN.zip ./W2BN/
java ZIP WAR3.zip ./WAR3/[/code]

Sorry, I wrote that off the top of my head, I miss-Capitlized the ZIP name.
BTW: Windows Users can get wget Here

The above commands work.
If you want you can see the source to the ZIP class here
Also I put that all into a .bat that windows users can run after installing wget.
JBLS-install.bat
It'll Download all the needed files (save the JRE and wget), extract all the zips to proper folders, Clean up the install files, and then execute JBLS.
Umm, Ya any more questions?
~-~(HDX)~-~

yeah uhm im stupid.

[quote author=MyStiCaL link=topic=15623.msg157706#msg157706 date=1157775006]
yeah uhm im stupid.
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Then you shoudln't be running a server.
If you can't figure this simple shit out, you'd have no chance of figuring harder things out.
~-~(HDX)~-~

yeah oh well, probley not, don't know much about the web and servers anyways. took me 3 days to install an smf forum. =)