Bored lately, so I'm trying to think of if there's any type or programs/bots/hacks/etc to write for various games that people would actually buy and I could make money off of.  I was thinking some sort of pindlebot for D2 where it's so-called "clientless"...or maybe a dedicated war3 custom game host/channel operator bot...battlefield 2 stat bot (basically like a winbot for sc :P)...any ideas?

You're still reversing VB6.  How sad.

Do what you want, UL.  I personally find that web development makes a bit of money.

[quote author=Maddox link=topic=15134.msg153899#msg153899 date=1149584973]
Still programming for battle.net, how sad.
[/quote]

If it makes you money and you enjoy it, then why stop doing it?

[quote author=rabbit link=topic=15134.msg153903#msg153903 date=1149597197]
You're still reversing VB6.  How sad.

Do what you want, UL.  I personally find that web development makes a bit of money.
[/quote]
Still reversing VB6?

Never have before.

So you're not Apollo?

[quote author=Maddox link=topic=15134.msg153899#msg153899 date=1149584973]
Still programming for battle.net, how sad.
[/quote]

Recently, I had been offered $100 twice to write a B.net related tool, one of which I had worked on.

Why don't these offers come my way? :-(

UserLoser, more like just UberLoser, am I right?

Wow you're funny.

But then again..no.

[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=15134.msg153943#msg153943 date=1149634941]
[quote author=Maddox link=topic=15134.msg153899#msg153899 date=1149584973]
Still programming for battle.net, how sad.
[/quote]

Recently, I had been offered $100 twice to write a B.net related tool, one of which I had worked on.
[/quote]

Was his name cele?

[quote author=Denial link=topic=15134.msg154025#msg154025 date=1149695958]
[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=15134.msg153943#msg153943 date=1149634941]
[quote author=Maddox link=topic=15134.msg153899#msg153899 date=1149584973]
Still programming for battle.net, how sad.
[/quote]

Recently, I had been offered $100 twice to write a B.net related tool, one of which I had worked on.
[/quote]

Was his name cele?
[/quote]

Cele's offer was for $500 when he asked if I would do the job, unless he decided to change it at a later time.

[quote author=Denial link=topic=15134.msg154025#msg154025 date=1149695958]
[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=15134.msg153943#msg153943 date=1149634941]
[quote author=Maddox link=topic=15134.msg153899#msg153899 date=1149584973]
Still programming for battle.net, how sad.
[/quote]

Recently, I had been offered $100 twice to write a B.net related tool, one of which I had worked on.
[/quote]

Was his name cele?
[/quote]

One of the offers were

You should write a program that would take over the world and kill people with a click of a mouse. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find a buyer, just sell it to G. W. Bush, I'm almost positive he would pay a good amount for it.

I was offered 200$ for a d2 channel/ingame spam bot. I made it and was almost finished it when I had to reformat and it seemed I didn't back it up.

[quote author=Fr0z3N link=topic=15134.msg154121#msg154121 date=1149799960]
I was offered 200$ for a d2 channel/ingame spam bot. I made it and was almost finished it when I had to reformat and it seemed I didn't back it up.
[/quote]

Is the offer still up? I'll do it and split you 20$ ;)

[quote author=Spht link=topic=15134.msg153914#msg153914 date=1149611482]
[quote author=Maddox link=topic=15134.msg153899#msg153899 date=1149584973]
Still programming for battle.net, how sad.
[/quote]

If it makes you money and you enjoy it, then why stop doing it?
[/quote]

Because it makes you absolutely no money in the long run, and if you sacrifice enjoyment for some money you could seriously make bank programming for people that have money.

[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=15134.msg154055#msg154055 date=1149715375]
[quote author=Denial link=topic=15134.msg154025#msg154025 date=1149695958]
[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=15134.msg153943#msg153943 date=1149634941]
[quote author=Maddox link=topic=15134.msg153899#msg153899 date=1149584973]
Still programming for battle.net, how sad.
[/quote]

Recently, I had been offered $100 twice to write a B.net related tool, one of which I had worked on.
[/quote]

Was his name cele?
[/quote]

One of the offers were
[/quote]

That guy asks everyone LOL.

Indeed, you may enjoy doing something alot, but if it doesn't pay the bills, then wake up.

[quote author=Maddox link=topic=15134.msg154181#msg154181 date=1149956596]
[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=15134.msg154055#msg154055 date=1149715375]
[quote author=Denial link=topic=15134.msg154025#msg154025 date=1149695958]
[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=15134.msg153943#msg153943 date=1149634941]
[quote author=Maddox link=topic=15134.msg153899#msg153899 date=1149584973]
Still programming for battle.net, how sad.
[/quote]

Recently, I had been offered $100 twice to write a B.net related tool, one of which I had worked on.
[/quote]

Was his name cele?
[/quote]

One of the offers were
[/quote]

That guy asks everyone LOL.
[/quote]

So what?  Just stated that one of the more recent offers were from him...

[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=15134.msg154190#msg154190 date=1149966932]
So what?  Just stated that one of the more recent offers were from him...
[/quote]

Don't bother, those idiots are just looking for a fight

[quote author=Topaz link=topic=15134.msg154194#msg154194 date=1149969823]
[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=15134.msg154190#msg154190 date=1149966932]
So what?  Just stated that one of the more recent offers were from him...
[/quote]

Don't bother, those idiots are just looking for a fight
[/quote]

We're idiots because we gave up programming for Battle.net because we realized it would never help pay  for bills like a real programming job would?

Since when should all people base what they do on whether it will pay for bills in the long run?  That sounds like a pretty boring lifestyle to me :P.

If he enjoys it, he's learning from it, and aside from that, he makes some money doing it, good for him.  Seems to me like a better use of time than playing WoW.  Besides, I don't see why anyone cares how UserLoser spends his time, and it's way off topic in this thread.


Edit:  You guys came to the realization that programming for battle.net wasn't going to make you rich?  ...heh

[quote author=Newby link=topic=15134.msg154196#msg154196 date=1149976764]
[quote author=Topaz link=topic=15134.msg154194#msg154194 date=1149969823]
[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=15134.msg154190#msg154190 date=1149966932]
So what?  Just stated that one of the more recent offers were from him...
[/quote]

Don't bother, those idiots are just looking for a fight
[/quote]

We're idiots because we gave up programming for Battle.net because we realized it would never help pay  for bills like a real programming job would?
[/quote]

You made your decision, he made his. It doesn't require a 9-6 to write a bot, so what's the deal? It isn't intended to be a substitute for a real career.  Who are you to judge what he does with his time?


Answer: You are nobody. You, in your pathetic attempt to make up for your lack of worth and friends, make fun and degrade others for your own satisfaction. You are scum.

I PROGRAM WOOT WOOT. program in the mornin, program in the evenin, program for supper time.

[quote author=warz link=topic=15134.msg154205#msg154205 date=1149993844]
I PROGRAM WOOT WOOT. program in the mornin, program in the evenin, program for supper time.
[/quote]

Shouldn't that be "program at supper time?". Btw, that has a nice ring to it ;). Way to copy a commercial :P.

I don't see the problem with Battle.net programming; why people don't think others should do it, or so it seems that that is the way they feel.

[quote author=Rule link=topic=15134.msg154197#msg154197 date=1149978962]
Since when should all people base what they do on whether it will pay for bills in the long run?  That sounds like a pretty boring lifestyle to me :P.
[/quote]

I'd rather do something that semi-entertains me and helps pay for a nicely sized house versus do something that is very fun that gets me barely enough payment for a 2 room apartment.

[quote author=Rule link=topic=15134.msg154197#msg154197 date=1149978962]
If he enjoys it, he's learning from it, and aside from that, he makes some money doing it, good for him.  Seems to me like a better use of time than playing WoW.  Besides, I don't see why anyone cares how UserLoser spends his time, and it's way off topic in this thread.
[/quote]

He asked for ideas for programming to make money. We told him programming for Battle.net won't get him shit. How is that off-topic?

[quote author=Rule link=topic=15134.msg154197#msg154197 date=1149978962]
Edit:  You guys came to the realization that programming for battle.net wasn't going to make you rich?  ...heh
[/quote]

Yes. We programmed for it for a while, then we realized that we could make money programming (or at least I did, Maddox may have realized he needs to pay bills), and we realized that we should focus elsewhere to make money.

[quote author=Topaz link=topic=15134.msg154200#msg154200 date=1149982334]
You made your decision, he made his. It doesn't require a 9-6 to write a bot, so what's the deal? It isn't intended to be a substitute for a real career.  Who are you to judge what he does with his time?


Answer: You are nobody. You, in your pathetic attempt to make up for your lack of worth and friends, make fun and degrade others for your own satisfaction. You are scum.
[/quote]

Apparently it was a substitute for a real career. Or a side job anyway. He's looking to make money by writing third party clients for games.

I never judged him. I simply said that programming for Battle.net won't be worth it.

I appreciate the flame, by the way. Shows your true character. Unable to read my posts correctly and flaming me for your mis-reading.

And if I am scum, what are you? You're the one blatantly degrading me. Take a clue at your message. I never degraded him. I simply said programming for Battle.net was useless.

[quote author=Newby link=topic=15134.msg154208#msg154208 date=1149998923]
[quote author=Rule link=topic=15134.msg154197#msg154197 date=1149978962]
Since when should all people base what they do on whether it will pay for bills in the long run?  That sounds like a pretty boring lifestyle to me :P.
[/quote]

I'd rather do something that semi-entertains me and helps pay for a nicely sized house versus do something that is very fun that gets me barely enough payment for a 2 room apartment.
[/quote]

Difference in philosophies.  I'm not decided on which one I prefer.  Either way, I don't see the point in flaming UserLoser.  He asked about battle.net specific programs, so "life advice" is somewhat off topic.  Skimming through this topic though, Maddox seems a lot more bitter than you.  Trying to start shit over something so stupid just seems loser-esque to me -- far more so than programming battle.net apps.  I think anyone who is capable of stringing a coherent sentence together realizes that programming for battle.net is probably* not going to make him rich.

*I did pretty well in D2, D2 LOD, where pretty well is much better than what I'd get in nearly any standard 'real world' programming job.

Edit: nm, you seem to be just as bad as maddox :(.

First off, I don't write things just for Battle.net, and have not completed any project at all, for money or not, in over a year.  Know the facts before you making accusations making you look like an idiot.  I don't even think I made anymore than $200 for Battle.net things, there were only a few minor projects I had worked on, nothing big.  You kids out there assume that's all I do since that's what you know me for on the Internet.  If you were local, you'd know that the school has had me do work for them along with the company I work for, also have done work for asomewhat known game.  Don't worry or care about what I do or ask, unless you're going to contribute.

Btw, quit being jealous.

[quote author=Rule link=topic=15134.msg154211#msg154211 date=1149999604]
He asked about battle.net specific programs, so "life advice" is somewhat off topic.  Skimming through this topic though, Maddox seems a lot more bitter than you.
[/quote]

He asked about programs he could write for games. Not specifically Battle.net. He mentioned Battlefield 2.

And UL, you base your whole argument on the assumption that we think you code JUST for Battle.net. We don't. We're just simply stating you should not code any projects for Battle.net if you are interested in money.

As for jealous, I'm not. :)

[quote author=Newby link=topic=15134.msg154218#msg154218 date=1150005181]
We're just simply stating you should not code any projects for Battle.net if you are interested in money.
[/quote]
Straight forward translation:
[quote]Don't spend [u]ANY[/u] of your free time programming for Battle.net despite it being fun, because it won't make any money.[/quote]

[quote author=Newby link=topic=15134.msg154208#msg154208 date=1149998923]
some sort of pathetic whining goes here
[/quote]

I was addressing everyone in particular, but...


Shows my true character? Take a break from the shrink act, you're a failure. Subtly insulting the way he uses his time, and at that point, more or less parroting after Maddox. I read your post fine, by the way, so don't go acting superior like you racist slime tend to do.

[quote author=FrOzeN link=topic=15134.msg154220#msg154220 date=1150005563]
[quote author=Newby link=topic=15134.msg154218#msg154218 date=1150005181]
We're just simply stating you should not code any projects for Battle.net if you are interested in money.
[/quote]
Straight forward translation:
[quote]Don't spend [u]ANY[/u] of your free time programming for Battle.net despite it being fun, because it won't make any money.[/quote]
[/quote]

Wrong, buddy. Straight forward translation:

[quote]If you want to make money in programming, don't program for Battle.net[/quote]

[quote author=Topaz link=topic=15134.msg154222#msg154222 date=1150007716]
I was addressing everyone in particular, but...


Shows my true character? Take a break from the shrink act, you're a failure. Subtly insulting the way he uses his time, and at that point, more or less parroting after Maddox. I read your post fine, by the way, so don't go acting superior like you racist slime tend to do.
[/quote]

No you weren't. You quoted me, and addressed me with 'you'. I read your post just fine.

I never meant to insult him. I'm sorry you read my post that way. :)

And I'm glad you're getting personal on this, calling me racist and all. It brings your arguments to a whole new light, and makes them so much more potent!

[quote]No you weren't. You quoted me, and addressed me with 'you'. I read your post just fine.

I never meant to insult him. I'm sorry you read my post that way. Smiley

And I'm glad you're getting personal on this, calling me racist and all. It brings your arguments to a whole new light, and makes them so much more potent![/quote]

Man, after reading your posts here and x86, I've realized you're really moody.

Really? Even iago agrees.

(quote taken from x86)

[quote author=iago link=topic=5858.msg70822#msg70822 date=1148513339]
[quote author=Newby link=topic=5858.msg70786#msg70786 date=1148506816]
If he's just gonna swing, I don't want him on my branch.
[/quote]
... says the #1 moodswinger I know :P
[/quote]

man, yall might not be jealous but I FUCKIN AM. fuck. you all program for bnet and are getting paid atleast SOME money? yall are all bitching but i would love to make a damn bot and get any sort of cash. a fuckin BOT. wtf. who hasnt made one? btw, the bnet community i once knew is dead. bnet is nothing anymore.

I know, make a virus that fucks up WoW when it runs on people's computers, making it unplayable. Spread that around the net.

That'd be a program worth paying for. :)

UL is right, everyone disagreeing with him is wrong. If it makes enough money to put extra $$ in your pocket, then by all means. For example with PHP I don't intend to pay all my bills, or manage a family but it's extra money for considerably less work I can do in an hour or so.

The argument of anyone against him has collapsed. You guys lose

[quote author=Warrior link=topic=15134.msg154236#msg154236 date=1150030487]
UL is right, everyone disagreeing with him is wrong. If it makes enough money to put extra $$ in your pocket, then by all means.
[/quote]

People should realize this at an instant. As long as you're making money and doing something you know how to do and as long as you're having fun doing it then you should do it.

I really don't see why anyone cares what userloser does on his spare time. If it's spare time, then chances are that the opportunity cost of doing other things is low in comparison to programming for money. This really isn't that big of an issue. I don't know why this thread has become so large.

[quote author=Warrior link=topic=15134.msg154236#msg154236 date=1150030487]
UL is right, everyone disagreeing with him is wrong. If it makes enough money to put extra $$ in your pocket, then by all means. For example with PHP I don't intend to pay all my bills, or manage a family but it's extra money for considerably less work I can do in an hour or so.
[/quote]

You could make considerably more money than programming bots for kids, though.

But not enough to pay the bills. It isn't a fact that he does this as a full time job, maybe he just needs extra cash? You and Maddox were just looking for trouble.

If they give you time enough to finnish what ever it is they asked, and you can actualy do the job then do it, money is money though I prefer cash in hand.

Before I started playing WoW, I stole Skywings naming scheme and wrote Warcraft Enhancements for TFT 1.17(?i think) custom games. It wasn't really overboard in "hacks" as much as time saving things. The main features were...
For hacks:
Map hack, Name Spoofing.
For Enhancements:
Your Esc Key improved a few things, If you went to join a game and it was taking too long, Esc would cancel joining the game. If your Loading screen was taking forever, it would just bail you out of it without crashing your entire game.
I also wrote the recognition of in-game /commands to work with WCE in game.
Remembering the last game you were in, and joining the game last friend was in.
And if you were hosting the game...
You could drop anyone from it at anytime with in game command.

Before I left I was working on and IP Database after seeing Adron's SCReportLog's IP/Game/Name Log, I decided to make one as well, and would remember IP's and show up similar names. Though it would seem someone finally made this feature and is now a public hack which people use to categorize the person's country and ping times... as well as ban lists.

I would update this, but I don't really have the time and barely the desire to. I also have barely any knowledge of how Warden works which I thought they added into Warcraft3 also? If not some kind of new anti-hack measure. Couldn't say because I don't know. :p

Maybe if someone could prove they we're smart enough to update it, and would actually get it done, I would give them what I have.

[quote author=Hostile link=topic=15134.msg154287#msg154287 date=1150141570]
Maybe if someone could prove they we're smart enough to update it, and would actually get it done, I would give them what I have.
[/quote]

Right here ^_^  I play W3 constantly, but I don't hack...but I would mess around with it for fun in custom games :)

[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=15134.msg154295#msg154295 date=1150154196]
[quote author=Hostile link=topic=15134.msg154287#msg154287 date=1150141570]
Maybe if someone could prove they we're smart enough to update it, and would actually get it done, I would give them what I have.
[/quote]

Right here ^_^  I play W3 constantly, but I don't hack...but I would mess around with it for fun in custom games :)
[/quote]

You have enough on your plate.  Do my stuff!

Well, I don't really hack either. The only reason I had added the Maphack and Name spoofer at the time was because it was just that easy to do. The main reason I made it (or the first reason, anyways) was because I got sick of clicking to join a game and have it take 2 minutes to tell me... "No".

[quote author=Spht link=topic=15134.msg154298#msg154298 date=1150157240]
[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=15134.msg154295#msg154295 date=1150154196]
[quote author=Hostile link=topic=15134.msg154287#msg154287 date=1150141570]
Maybe if someone could prove they we're smart enough to update it, and would actually get it done, I would give them what I have.
[/quote]

Right here ^_^  I play W3 constantly, but I don't hack...but I would mess around with it for fun in custom games :)
[/quote]

You have enough on your plate.  Do my stuff!
[/quote]

Like what?  I keep them gnomes in their places :)