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Ishbar
So heres how It goes...

I had Windows XP Home. The issue; is that a few days ago before starting up and automatically logging on I'd recieve a message that went "Your Windows version will expire in 5 days, click ok to activate windows" I'd naturally click OK, and i'd get a window that'd pop up, somewhat blue-ish, with keys at the top right corner for its icon, and it'd read "Windows is already activated, click ok to exit" I'd click ok, and then go about my ways; the next day, 4 left, 3, 2, all the same messages, and the same reasurance that my windows version is activated. Then a power surge today, windows restarts, ( The day it'd expire was today ) and I go through the processes of clicking to continue on to the next screen, it tells me my windows version is activated..but this time, it logs me off, logs me back on, and says i need to activate, and repeats this cycle..over and over, no matter what I click. I mean, what the hell, its either activated or it isnt! It can't be frigin both ( The windows version was a legal copy from a friend of mine ) it really pisses me off that windows decides to break my balls ( again! ) like so many times before...

So...I give in, i decide to install Fedora Core 5, I got the cd from the help of the same friend ( Yegg ). Now I have no clue how to run it, and    its very blocky, the way it runs, slow, even while typing this it carrys some lag, another problem, whenever I drag an icon it lags across screen, not a smooth clean movement, but a very broken, annoying. Also, Fedora refuses to tell me the size on my system disk, not to mention it isnt even reading my OTHER hd!! So..im getting quite frusterated, any suggestions for either problems? I'd like to get this OS as user friendly as possible, and feel comfertable with it, so I can have as close to as possible the functionality windows gave me ( when it wasnt shitting all over me ) but still have the advantages of this more programer friendly OS, cause i'd hope to start learning a language some time soon as well.         
April 24, 2006, 2:19 AM
Myndfyr
Have you tried calling Microsoft?  Since it's a legitimate copy, they're usually ok with helping you out....
April 24, 2006, 8:32 AM
Ishbar
I'm not 100% sure if its multiuser though.  :-\
April 24, 2006, 10:00 AM
Myndfyr
[quote author=Ishbar link=topic=14838.msg151181#msg151181 date=1145872848]
I'm not 100% sure if its multiuser though.  :-\
[/quote]
Windows XP is a multiuser operating system.
April 26, 2006, 2:32 AM
Ishbar
are you retarded?

Windows sells copys that only permit it to be installed and registered on ONE pc!  It costs more for the multiple pc ones..i dont know which he had.
April 26, 2006, 11:53 PM
Yegg
[quote author=Ishbar link=topic=14838.msg151341#msg151341 date=1146095634]
are you retarded?

Windows sells copys that only permit it to be installed and registered on ONE pc!  It costs more for the multiple pc ones..i dont know which he had.
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"Multiuser" refers to the OS having the ability to allow more than one user account to exist and use, so therefore it is multiuser.

The XP disc can only be installed once. Mine will insall once and it's been installed on my sisters pc, I wouldn't waste my money on a license.
April 26, 2006, 11:58 PM
LoRd
He means a multi-user licence which are only issued for Office and Corporate editions of Windows.

So, if I'm understanding you correctly Ishbar, you obtained Windows XP Home Edition (and the key) from a friend who has already installed and activated his copy of Windows?  If so, then this is why you're having problems.  The key that you're using has infact already been activated, but by someone else.  Simply put, you're out of luck as far as your pirated version of Windows goes.
April 27, 2006, 12:26 AM
Myndfyr
[quote author=Lord[nK] link=topic=14838.msg151344#msg151344 date=1146097566]
He means a multi-user licence which are only issued for Office and Corporate editions of Windows.
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Ohhh, so in other words, he's saying he's a thief.  I gotcha.
April 27, 2006, 12:42 AM
Kp
[quote author=MyndFyre[vL] link=topic=14838.msg151303#msg151303 date=1146018762][quote author=Ishbar link=topic=14838.msg151181#msg151181 date=1145872848]I'm not 100% sure if its multiuser though.  :-\[/quote]Windows XP is a multiuser operating system.[/quote]

but just try getting it to let several users be concurrently logged in and interacting with it all at the same time! ;)
April 27, 2006, 2:27 AM
Forged
I have installed my copy of xp pro on every computer in my house along with several friends computers.  I have used the same key on every install and have rarelly had problems activating it.  In probablly 20 installs I have only had to use a crack 3 or 4 times.
April 27, 2006, 7:00 AM
Myndfyr
[quote author=Kp link=topic=14838.msg151356#msg151356 date=1146104851]
[quote author=MyndFyre[vL] link=topic=14838.msg151303#msg151303 date=1146018762][quote author=Ishbar link=topic=14838.msg151181#msg151181 date=1145872848]I'm not 100% sure if its multiuser though.  :-\[/quote]Windows XP is a multiuser operating system.[/quote]

but just try getting it to let several users be concurrently logged in and interacting with it all at the same time! ;)
[/quote]

I *could* say the same thing about Linux but then you'd give me some wildly impractical description of how a 4 terminal clients would log into it.  Whereas Windows also does that, you just need to get the right flavor.
April 27, 2006, 4:52 PM
Newby
[quote author=MyndFyre[vL] link=topic=14838.msg151372#msg151372 date=1146156732]
I *could* say the same thing about Linux but then you'd give me some wildly impractical description of how a 4 terminal clients would log into it.  Whereas Windows also does that, you just need to get the right flavor.
[/quote]

Uhh, I can ssh into a box while another user is logged into it using X, and 3-4 more are logged into their shell, and work just fine. I really can't do that in Windows without third party clients (netcat + cmd.exe) or logging the other user off.

I am sorry you need a special flavor of Windows to do that, as well. :(
April 27, 2006, 10:16 PM
Kp
[quote author=MyndFyre[vL] link=topic=14838.msg151372#msg151372 date=1146156732][quote author=Kp link=topic=14838.msg151356#msg151356 date=1146104851][quote author=MyndFyre[vL] link=topic=14838.msg151303#msg151303 date=1146018762][quote author=Ishbar link=topic=14838.msg151181#msg151181 date=1145872848]I'm not 100% sure if its multiuser though.  :-\[/quote]Windows XP is a multiuser operating system.[/quote]but just try getting it to let several users be concurrently logged in and interacting with it all at the same time! ;)[/quote]

I *could* say the same thing about Linux but then you'd give me some wildly impractical description of how a 4 terminal clients would log into it.  Whereas Windows also does that, you just need to get the right flavor.
[/quote]

Xvnc works fine for letting people have a remote graphical interface on any standard Linux system.  One user per VNC server (usually; more is supported, but it gets a bit silly if you're all fighting over a single mouse), and as many VNC servers as the system has the resources to support.  Since there are implementations of VNC which are Free Software, there's no need to get a special flavor of the system to allow this.

How about letting the same user have two graphical sessions up at once (say, one on console and one remotely)?  I've never seen Windows allow that, even when Terminal Services are at their least restrictive.  I routinely do that with Xvnc though, and it works fine (aside from a few stupid applications that can't handle having two instances running at once, but that's hardly the system's fault).
April 28, 2006, 2:51 AM
Myndfyr
[quote author=Kp link=topic=14838.msg151407#msg151407 date=1146192701]
How about letting the same user have two graphical sessions up at once (say, one on console and one remotely)?  I've never seen Windows allow that, even when Terminal Services are at their least restrictive.  I routinely do that with Xvnc though, and it works fine (aside from a few stupid applications that can't handle having two instances running at once, but that's hardly the system's fault).
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Yes, Windows XP Professional/Media Center 2005 supports a window station and unlimited instances of console sessions (through Telnet Server, enabled through the Services MMC Snap-In).
April 28, 2006, 8:14 AM
Kp
[quote author=MyndFyre[vL] link=topic=14838.msg151420#msg151420 date=1146212083][quote author=Kp link=topic=14838.msg151407#msg151407 date=1146192701]How about letting the same user have two graphical sessions up at once (say, one on console and one remotely)?  I've never seen Windows allow that, even when Terminal Services are at their least restrictive.  I routinely do that with Xvnc though, and it works fine (aside from a few stupid applications that can't handle having two instances running at once, but that's hardly the system's fault).[/quote]Yes, Windows XP Professional/Media Center 2005 supports a window station and unlimited instances of console sessions (through Telnet Server, enabled through the Services MMC Snap-In).[/quote]

Telnet server?  As in, only command line applications?  That's not very useful under Microsoft Windows.  Now, if they could support ssh connections and forward the application's GUI back to the client's display like X11+ssh ... :)
April 29, 2006, 4:25 AM
Myndfyr
Oohhh, you said one on the current system and one remotely.  When you said "console" I thought you meant text-mode.

I don't know.  I can't think of any practical application where that could be used.  However, I *do* know that it's not a limitation of the security subsystem, because the impersonation feature lets you log in that way.  I'd need to experiment, I don't have a Terminal Services installation running around here.
April 29, 2006, 8:57 AM

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