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PaiD
Titled: Iranian Paper Plans Holocaust Cartoons
Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/iran_cartoons

Orignal
Titled: Afghans Protest Against Prophet Cartoons
Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060207/ap_on_re_as/prophet_drawings_97

Hm. Good reading. Do you think the West will do anything?
February 7, 2006, 3:20 PM
CrAz3D
I was just about to post that in the other thread.  *high five*

I think Iran will put out cartoons and we might criticize them at most...I can't see anyone rioting over them.

HMM:
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7200/peel6cy.jpg

I expect theirs to be much more offensive though
February 7, 2006, 3:23 PM
Networks
[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=14184.msg145006#msg145006 date=1139325810]
I was just about to post that in the other thread.  *high five*

I think Iran will put out cartoons and we might criticize them at most...I can't see anyone rioting over them.

HMM:
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7200/peel6cy.jpg

I expect theirs to be much more offensive though
[/quote]

It's wrong to do this but I suppose their making their point to people who don't understand why they are angry and think they should just get over it.

People like you CrAz3D. Much more offense? You're stupid.
February 7, 2006, 9:57 PM
CrAz3D
[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145029#msg145029 date=1139349424]
[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=14184.msg145006#msg145006 date=1139325810]
I was just about to post that in the other thread.  *high five*

I think Iran will put out cartoons and we might criticize them at most...I can't see anyone rioting over them.

HMM:
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7200/peel6cy.jpg

I expect theirs to be much more offensive though
[/quote]

It's wrong to do this but I suppose their making their point to people who don't understand why they are angry and think they should just get over it.

People like you CrAz3D. Much more offense? You're stupid.
[/quote]They're TRYING to make a point, but it will back fire as no western nation's peoples will riot & burn down Iran for sponsoring a "caraciture of the Holocaust" contest.

I can understand their anger...I'm angry that Kanye West compares himself to Jesus, I don't burn down The Rolling Stone for publishing it nor did I kill Kanye.

& yes, I believe that their Holocaust cartoons/depictions will be more offensive than mine is (which is still WAY bad).
February 7, 2006, 10:25 PM
Networks
[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=14184.msg145031#msg145031 date=1139351116]
[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145029#msg145029 date=1139349424]
[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=14184.msg145006#msg145006 date=1139325810]
I was just about to post that in the other thread.  *high five*

I think Iran will put out cartoons and we might criticize them at most...I can't see anyone rioting over them.

HMM:
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7200/peel6cy.jpg

I expect theirs to be much more offensive though
[/quote]

It's wrong to do this but I suppose their making their point to people who don't understand why they are angry and think they should just get over it.

People like you CrAz3D. Much more offense? You're stupid.
[/quote]They're TRYING to make a point, but it will back fire as no western nation's peoples will riot & burn down Iran for sponsoring a "caraciture of the Holocaust" contest.

I can understand their anger...I'm angry that Kanye West compares himself to Jesus, I don't burn down The Rolling Stone for publishing it nor did I kill Kanye.

& yes, I believe that their Holocaust cartoons/depictions will be more offensive than mine is (which is still WAY bad).
[/quote]

Well you'll see what happens when they produce it. Of course you think it's worse since you're not muslim at all, you wouldn't understand how a picture of muhammed with a bomb on his head is demeaning. You need to step into people's shoes. I am not defending anyone, I am just speaking objectively.
February 7, 2006, 10:29 PM
CrAz3D
I'm speaking objectively too, they are wrong for burning stuff down.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/02/07/church.fires.ap/index.html
Look, Americans are burning down churches, you don't see us up in arms burning down more crap do you?...no.  The police are looking for the suspects etc.

Muslim people (not all) are going nuts with deaths resulting.
February 7, 2006, 10:51 PM
Networks
[quote author=Topaz link=topic=14184.msg145050#msg145050 date=1139355419]
[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145036#msg145036 date=1139351383]
Well you'll see what happens when they produce it. Of course you think it's worse since you're not muslim at all, you wouldn't understand how a picture of muhammed with a bomb on his head is demeaning. You need to step into people's shoes. I am not defending anyone, I am just speaking objectively.
[/quote]

Shut up, raghead. We're not stupid.
[/quote]

I am not muslim you ignorant piece of racist shit. And yes you are stupid just by that statement.
February 8, 2006, 12:03 AM
CrAz3D
[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145053#msg145053 date=1139356989]

I am not muslim you ignorant piece of racist shit
[/quote]
Ah, and by that whom are you to tell me not to judge them because I don't know how they feel over a CARTOON
February 8, 2006, 12:37 AM
St0rm.iD
[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145053#msg145053 date=1139356989]
[quote author=Topaz link=topic=14184.msg145050#msg145050 date=1139355419]
[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145036#msg145036 date=1139351383]
Well you'll see what happens when they produce it. Of course you think it's worse since you're not muslim at all, you wouldn't understand how a picture of muhammed with a bomb on his head is demeaning. You need to step into people's shoes. I am not defending anyone, I am just speaking objectively.
[/quote]

Shut up, raghead. We're not stupid.
[/quote]

I am not muslim you ignorant piece of racist shit. And yes you are stupid just by that statement.
[/quote]

Liberals. They just can't tell when something is just dripping with sarcasm and satire.
February 8, 2006, 1:57 AM
CrAz3D
[img]http://i1.tinypic.com/nb2974.gif[/img]
February 8, 2006, 6:11 AM
Arta
On the subject of cartoons, this one is really funny:

http://coppersblog.blogspot.com/2006/02/different-job.html

:D
February 8, 2006, 2:18 PM
CrAz3D
hmm, not as amusing as other cartoons
February 8, 2006, 2:22 PM
iago
[quote author=Topaz link=topic=14184.msg145089#msg145089 date=1139365978]
How would you know how muslims happen to feel, if you aren't muslim yourself?
[/quote]

Hm, I don't know.  Do you think the rioting and firebombing might be a clue?  Or is that too obvious?

I think the idea of having a holocaust picture contest is the best idea I've heard.  Many people don't understand why the cartoons angered them so much.  I mean, the cartoons went against their entire belief system and condemned their entire religious as being terrorists, I don't blame them for being angry.  Although having a holocaust-picture contest isn't nearly as bad as condemning an entire race as terrorists, at least it will give people some appreciation of how it feels. 

I don't, in general, agree with revenge, but I like the idea of them showing the rest of the world, who are too ignorant to understand, how they feel about this. 
February 8, 2006, 4:35 PM
CrAz3D
[quote author=iago link=topic=14184.msg145159#msg145159 date=1139416532]
[quote author=Topaz link=topic=14184.msg145089#msg145089 date=1139365978]
How would you know how muslims happen to feel, if you aren't muslim yourself?
[/quote]

Hm, I don't know.  Do you think the rioting and firebombing might be a clue?  Or is that too obvious?
[/quote]
Networks is saying we need to step back and look at it from their point of view, I believe, saying we should sympathize somewhat with them because their religion is being defamed.
He also says we shouldn't judge them because we are not them.
Topaz (& myself somewhat) is thinking who is Networks to judge us judging them when he (networks) is not either.

[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145053#msg145053 date=1139356989]
[quote author=Topaz link=topic=14184.msg145050#msg145050 date=1139355419]
[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145036#msg145036 date=1139351383]
Well you'll see what happens when they produce it. Of course you think it's worse since you're not muslim at all, you wouldn't understand how a picture of muhammed with a bomb on his head is demeaning. You need to step into people's shoes. I am not defending anyone, I am just speaking objectively.
[/quote]
Shut up, raghead. We're not stupid.
[/quote]

I am not muslim you ignorant piece of racist shit. And yes you are stupid just by that statement.
[/quote]





[quote author=iago link=topic=14184.msg145159#msg145159 date=1139416532]
I think the idea of having a holocaust picture contest is the best idea I've heard.  Many people don't understand why the cartoons angered them so much.  I mean, the cartoons went against their entire belief system and condemned their entire religious as being terrorists, I don't blame them for being angry.  Although having a holocaust-picture contest isn't nearly as bad as condemning an entire race as terrorists, at least it will give people some appreciation of how it feels. 

I don't, in general, agree with revenge, but I like the idea of them showing the rest of the world, who are too ignorant to understand, how they feel about this. 
[/quote]
I think the Holocaust picture thing is a good idea, from OUR(western world) point of view.  No sane westerner will go into Iran & blow crap up over it...they'll just brush it off as Iran being a bunch of assholes (they are becoming that moreso each day, other reasons included).
The cartoons probably won't even get much of a rise at all from people, including Jewish people.


What race has been deemed terrorists?
Islam?...thats a religion.  And they aren't all terrorists, just the extremeists.
The ones being discussed here are just overly upset Muslim followers around the world that, in their rage, have gone over the edge.
February 8, 2006, 10:11 PM
CrAz3D
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/02/08/cartoon.protests/index.html

God damn it Muslim people, now its America's fault for these stupid cartoons.  Next thing ya know all the lefties will be claiming Bush.
What goes next people, APPLE FREAKIN PIE!?


EDIT:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/sarticle.php?id=12146
Those are the cartoons that were published.
February 8, 2006, 10:46 PM
Networks
Funny how most of us that think that the cartoon is a disgrace and an insult to Islamic people everywhere understand that the violence these Islamic people are commiting is wrong however the people who are desensitized to the cartoon don't understand that, that it is wrong and are simply and only horrified by the violence which it seems they think is unjustified.

You guys are just pompous, fuck you and your extremists patriotic beliefs and extremeist ties to religion. Try using your head for 5 minutes instead of your impulse and take a diversity class.

God someone should portray jesus or the pope with a knife killing a fucking kitten just so you know how it feels. (or who ever the fuck you praise)

All that Danish idiot did was create more extremists, all he's done is create more martyr's. Good job moron.
February 8, 2006, 11:03 PM
St0rm.iD
[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145186#msg145186 date=1139439792]
God someone should portray jesus or the pope with a knife killing a fucking kitten just so you know how it feels. (or who ever the fuck you praise)
[/quote]

Go ahead. I bet you $100 that there will be no significant riots, murders, or destruction.

[quote author=Networks]
You guys are just pompous, fuck you and your extremists patriotic beliefs and extremeist ties to religion. Try using your head for 5 minutes instead of your impulse and take a diversity class.
[/quote]

I don't think that my side is the extremist one . . .
February 9, 2006, 1:35 AM
LoRd
[quote author=Banana fanna fo fanna link=topic=14184.msg145197#msg145197 date=1139448923]
[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145186#msg145186 date=1139439792]
God someone should portray jesus or the pope with a knife killing a fucking kitten just so you know how it feels. (or who ever the fuck you praise)
[/quote]

Go ahead. I bet you $100 that there will be no significant riots, murders, or destruction.

[quote author=Networks]
You guys are just pompous, fuck you and your extremists patriotic beliefs and extremeist ties to religion. Try using your head for 5 minutes instead of your impulse and take a diversity class.
[/quote]

I don't think that my side is the extremist one . . .
[/quote]

We have an established government which we've had for decades that allows us to voice our opinions in orderly ways and gather followers in doing so.  Their only voice is their destruction.
February 9, 2006, 1:57 AM
Networks
[quote author=Lord[nK] link=topic=14184.msg145201#msg145201 date=1139450255]
[quote author=Banana fanna fo fanna link=topic=14184.msg145197#msg145197 date=1139448923]
[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145186#msg145186 date=1139439792]
God someone should portray jesus or the pope with a knife killing a fucking kitten just so you know how it feels. (or who ever the fuck you praise)
[/quote]

Go ahead. I bet you $100 that there will be no significant riots, murders, or destruction.

[quote author=Networks]
You guys are just pompous, fuck you and your extremists patriotic beliefs and extremeist ties to religion. Try using your head for 5 minutes instead of your impulse and take a diversity class.
[/quote]

I don't think that my side is the extremist one . . .
[/quote]

We have an established government which we've had for decades that allows us to voice our opinions in orderly ways and gather followers in doing so.  Their only voice is their destruction.
[/quote]

I agree and somewhat disagree. Destruction is not their only voice however neither is a polite note. There are other ways to address things however the complete disregard by other nations to say this is disrespectful at the least and the gall of France to REPRINT the cartoons even with the riots is simply stupid. We're not silencing anyone however sometimes it's best to keep your views to yourself or at least present them in a less offensive fashion. I think this is the primary reason for the violence. If you present such a view in such a fanatical way, you're result is analogous to that of the presenation.

Banana fanna fo fanna: I gurantee if you present a religous figure to catholic or christian faiths in such a manner hell will break lose. Muslims cannot mimic a similar cartoon since they regard Jesus as a prophet in a respectul manner.

Do not let Iran cloud your judgement on what Islamic people are like, you have to understand what kind of government runs Iran: the same that said the holocaust was inexistent and made up, what do you expect? If anything I'd predict Iran is DEFINETLY NOT representative of Islamic people all over the world. (This is in regard to the cartoon contest they are running in response to the Danish cartoon)
February 9, 2006, 2:38 AM
CrAz3D
[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145186#msg145186 date=1139439792]
Funny how most of us that think that the cartoon is a disgrace and an insult to Islamic people everywhere understand that the violence these Islamic people are commiting is wrong however the people who are desensitized to the cartoon don't understand that, that it is wrong and are simply and only horrified by the violence which it seems they think is unjustified.
[/quote]
The cartoons, I guess, do offend their religion & make that Danish guys that drew them look bad

[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145186#msg145186 date=1139439792]
You guys are just pompous, fuck you and your extremists patriotic beliefs and extremeist ties to religion. Try using your head for 5 minutes instead of your impulse and take a diversity class.
[/quote]
What impulse?  That mass rioting is wrong?

[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145186#msg145186 date=1139439792]
God someone should portray jesus or the pope with a knife killing a fucking kitten just so you know how it feels. (or who ever the fuck you praise)
[/quote]
Kanye West, as I've said before, has already done almost just that...he compared himself to Jesus.

[quote author=Networks]
Banana fanna fo fanna: I gurantee if you present a religous figure to catholic or christian faiths in such a manner hell will break lose. Muslims cannot mimic a similar cartoon since they regard Jesus as a prophet in a respectul manner.[/quote]
Kanye West.

[quote author=Networks]Do not let Iran cloud your judgement on what Islamic people are like, you have to understand what kind of government runs Iran: the same that said the holocaust was inexistent and made up, what do you expect? If anything I'd predict Iran is DEFINETLY NOT representative of Islamic people all over the world. (This is in regard to the cartoon contest they are running in response to the Danish cartoon)[/quote]
Ah, but Iran does represent Iran's people whom elected, if I'm not mistaken, their current leader.
Their current leader who wants his people to draw cartoons about something that didnt happen so it will offend us, hmm, he's a bright guy ;)
February 9, 2006, 5:36 AM
Quarantine
It's a fucking picture, get over it.
They need to suck it up and stop crying already, god.
February 9, 2006, 10:20 PM
Networks
[quote author=Topaz link=topic=14184.msg145212#msg145212 date=1139457051]
Yeah... I think Networks really is of Middle Eastern descent.
[/quote]

I am Indian which is not to be confused with a middle eastern decent.
February 9, 2006, 10:46 PM
CrAz3D
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=india&ll=29.075375,82.792969&spn=37.82248,111.09375
Pretty close.

;) heh, close like in a physical close to the Middle East.
February 9, 2006, 11:13 PM
St0rm.iD
[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145204#msg145204 date=1139452692]
Banana fanna fo fanna: I gurantee if you present a religous figure to catholic or christian faiths in such a manner hell will break lose. Muslims cannot mimic a similar cartoon since they regard Jesus as a prophet in a respectul manner.
[/quote]

I guarantee that there will perhaps be a few angry letters sent, but no riots, bombing of embassies, terrorist attacks, murders, or rapes.
February 10, 2006, 1:56 AM
Networks
[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=14184.msg145322#msg145322 date=1139526830]
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=india&ll=29.075375,82.792969&spn=37.82248,111.09375
Pretty close.

;) heh, close like in a physical close to the Middle East.

[/quote]

you're close to the middle east in relation to the universe. moron.
February 10, 2006, 3:36 AM
St0rm.iD
[quote author=Networks link=topic=14184.msg145344#msg145344 date=1139542581]
[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=14184.msg145322#msg145322 date=1139526830]
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=india&ll=29.075375,82.792969&spn=37.82248,111.09375
Pretty close.

;) heh, close like in a physical close to the Middle East.

[/quote]

you're close to the middle east in relation to the universe. moron.
[/quote]

agreed
February 12, 2006, 12:12 AM
CrAz3D
uhm,sarcasm?...
So he is decended from the "right?" east...whatever.  joke
February 12, 2006, 12:15 AM

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