http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie7/ie7betaredirect.mspx

Yay for 1.2Mb/sec download speed. :D

Of course I cannot install because I have an illegal copy of XP. Due to the MS rule that you must use one serial per computer.

[quote author=Yegg link=topic=14088.msg144141#msg144141 date=1138827660]
Of course I cannot install because I have an illegal copy of XP. Due to the MS rule that you must use one serial per computer.
[/quote]
I just got that same error too. :(

Just saw a video explaining it's new features on channel9.msdn.com, it's looking pretty good. Shows that they're trying to make a good browser and have even collaborated with Mozilla to use thier RSS icon because "it's orange".

[quote author=Yegg link=topic=14088.msg144141#msg144141 date=1138827660]
Of course I cannot install because I have an illegal copy of XP. Due to the MS rule that you must use one serial per computer.
[/quote]

Good.

Thanks for your contribution to higher software prices for those of us who don't like to break the law and steal.

In other news: IE 7 is a prettied-up version of IE 6 with tabs that are slightly less annoying than my experience with FireFox's (I like the X for closing on the tab itself).  I am disappointed that File->Close does not close the window if there is only one tab.

[quote author=MyndFyre link=topic=14088.msg144148#msg144148 date=1138829997]
Thanks for your contribution to higher software prices for those of us who don't like to break the law and steal.
[/quote]

Break and law and steal? Well god damn, us regular home people cannot afford to buy multiple, $200 Windows XP Home discs every time we need to install it on a new computer. It's just how MS is sucking our money away. It seems like they don't care about people unless it is for a small business or some other organization.

Don't want to pay for Windows?...
Use linux.

IE7!? OMG ROX0R!

I *MAY* download it later, I'm quite content w/my FireFox for now.
Hmm, sure looks alot like most other browsers, way to catch up MS!  Too bad they didn't just make their own new interface design

[quote author=Yegg link=topic=14088.msg144152#msg144152 date=1138831281]
[quote author=MyndFyre link=topic=14088.msg144148#msg144148 date=1138829997]
Thanks for your contribution to higher software prices for those of us who don't like to break the law and steal.
[/quote]

Break and law and steal? Well god damn, us regular home people cannot afford to buy multiple, $200 Windows XP Home discs every time we need to install it on a new computer. It's just how MS is sucking our money away. It seems like they don't care about people unless it is for a small business or some other organization.
[/quote]

Maybe the prices wouldn't be so high if people like you didn't pirate the software, thus making it harder for Microsoft to offset the cost of production (which, you know, costs millions of dollars.)

:'( Doesnt run on x64 Windows XP

hmm, pretty decent so far.

Also, I lied.  I downloaded it cause iw as bored

Looks pretty good so far. I think the XP version should be toned down to use actual XP widgets since the two buttons in the top left corner look pretty scratchy because of the missing Vista interface.

No complaints so far, they said to have fixed a bunch of CSS errors but I know there are still a bunch to go. I think it's a positive step up from IE6.

IE7 on vL.

[img]http://ezimagehosting.net/image.php?id=PpHjCBCz0Y&&max=[/img]

[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=14088.msg144153#msg144153 date=1138831629]
Don't want to pay for Windows?...
Use linux.

IE7!? OMG ROX0R!

I *MAY* download it later, I'm quite content w/my FireFox for now.
Hmm, sure looks alot like most other browsers, way to catch up MS!  Too bad they didn't just make their own new interface design
[/quote]

And create a browser people aren't used to!? Yeah..like that's appealing.

Edit:
I don't know if it's possible but things look much smoother.

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=14088.msg144156#msg144156 date=1138831772]
[quote author=Yegg link=topic=14088.msg144152#msg144152 date=1138831281]
[quote author=MyndFyre link=topic=14088.msg144148#msg144148 date=1138829997]
Thanks for your contribution to higher software prices for those of us who don't like to break the law and steal.
[/quote]

Break and law and steal? Well god damn, us regular home people cannot afford to buy multiple, $200 Windows XP Home discs every time we need to install it on a new computer. It's just how MS is sucking our money away. It seems like they don't care about people unless it is for a small business or some other organization.
[/quote]

Maybe the prices wouldn't be so high if people like you didn't pirate the software, thus making it harder for Microsoft to offset the cost of production (which, you know, costs millions of dollars.)
[/quote]

Are you suggesting that I illegally downloaded the software? Or illegaly used it? I went to BesBuy and purchased Windows XP Home, the full install edition for $200. This was done for my sisters new computer. We have a Windows98 install disc with a Windows 2000 Professional upgrade, we'd normally go by means of this however the processor was 2.4ghz, and a Windows98 does not support an installation on a processor with 2.1ghz or higher. So we turned to the very expensive XP Home disc. I soon ater needed to install Windows on this computer (has 3ghz processor). I'd use Linux, but for certain reasons I decided to use Windows. The key would not work on more than one computer. I don't think that should be so. So I had to bypass the XP activation software. Paying $200 for an OS on two computers is plenty.

If you are a student at any university with a comp sci / soft e / comp e / ee program you can get a legit copy of xp pro for free.

[quote author=Warrior link=topic=14088.msg144167#msg144167 date=1138834628]
Looks pretty good so far. I think the XP version should be toned down to use actual XP widgets since the two buttons in the top left corner look pretty scratchy because of the missing Vista interface.

No complaints so far, they said to have fixed a bunch of CSS errors but I know there are still a bunch to go. I think it's a positive step up from IE6.
[/quote] The box model is still shit. They support a ton of proprietary stuff but they will not introduce a w3c compliant box model.

What is a box model?

[quote author=Warrior link=topic=14088.msg144187#msg144187 date=1138839626]
What is a box model?
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It's the Document Object Model of HTML 4 and newer, how items in HTML are rendered.

[quote author=Yegg link=topic=14088.msg144175#msg144175 date=1138837251]
Are you suggesting that I illegally downloaded the software? Or illegaly used it?
[/quote]
Illegally used it.

[quote author=Yegg link=topic=14088.msg144175#msg144175 date=1138837251]
The key would not work on more than one computer. I don't think that should be so. So I had to bypass the XP activation software. Paying $200 for an OS on two computers is plenty.
[/quote]
"I don't think that should be so."

Tough.  That's the way it is.  That's like in the Red vs Blue New York Film Festival episode, when Grif says, "It's not illegal, because I don't want it to be illegal!  That's the way it works!"

[quote author=Yegg link=topic=14088.msg144175#msg144175 date=1138837251]I'd use Linux, but for certain reasons I decided to use Windows. The key would not work on more than one computer. I don't think that should be so. So I had to bypass the XP activation software. Paying $200 for an OS on two computers is plenty.[/quote]

I don't disagree that Windows XP costs quite a bit for what it gives you: another NT kernel, eye candy, buggy IPv6 support (I've seen userland programs cause XP to bluescreen when they try to use IPv6...), and (with the advent of SP2) a packet filtering firewall that's still vastly inferior to Netfilter.  That said, disliking the price is not a reason for disregarding the license / using more copies than you have purchased.  If you can't afford the extra licenses, then don't run Windows XP on the extra systems!

You also didn't explain why you didn't put Windows 2000 on the 2.4Ghz machine.  I run a Windows 2000 machine on a processor of about that speed, and have no problem with it (aside from the problems inherent in a Microsoft Windows machine, of course).

[quote author=Kp link=topic=14088.msg144197#msg144197 date=1138841992]
You also didn't explain why you didn't put Windows 2000 on the 2.4Ghz machine.  I run a Windows 2000 machine on a processor of about that speed, and have no problem with it (aside from the problems inherent in a Microsoft Windows machine, of course).
[/quote]

My 2000 disc was only an upgrade, an it would not allow me to install without a Windows OS already installed.

[quote author=Savior link=topic=14088.msg144165#msg144165 date=1138834171]
:'( Doesnt run on x64 Windows XP
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Isn't Vista packaged with IE7? IE7 has been out for a while now, at least in the circles I run in.

[quote author=Topaz link=topic=14088.msg144200#msg144200 date=1138842970]
[quote author=Savior link=topic=14088.msg144165#msg144165 date=1138834171]
:'( Doesnt run on x64 Windows XP
[/quote]

Isn't Vista packaged with IE7? IE7 has been out for a while now, at least in the circles I run in.
[/quote]

Well, Mr. Elite, Vista hasn't exactly been packaged either.  But yes, it will ship with IE7 when it is released.

There should not be an argument about what browser is better. All browsers have something good and something bad about them.

Having browser "wars" is a great thing for the end user, it promotes browser technology advancement.

[quote author=Invert link=topic=14088.msg144267#msg144267 date=1138868785]
There should not be an argument about what browser is better. All browsers have something good and something bad about them.

Having browser "wars" is a great thing for the end user, it promotes browser technology advancement.
[/quote]

I agree, IE7 lacks numerous things I take for granted in FireFox.

I quit, I won't use it anymore.

Everytime a window finishes load (& it isn't on top) IE makes that window go to the top, I'm sick of being interrupted while in the middle of post-whoring on this & other forums!

The "Restore Last Tab Group" feature is quite nice though.  Rather than having to start up a tab for each individual site that I would typically check, I can leave them all tabbed, close the process, open it later and just right-click and restore them.

Convenient, IMO!