Valhalla Legends Forums Archive | General Discussion | vL on wikipedia

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Ender
I'm not sure if this is a wideknown fact, but I searched this site for a similar topic as the one I'm creating, and couldn't find one. So here it is, vL on wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla_legends

I looked up other bnet clans on wikipedia, and didn't find many. I find it kinda cool that vl's on wikipedia. And any of us can add to it! (I mean for the better, not for the worse.) I wonder who first put vL on wikipedia and who edited it (I didn't do any edits).
January 3, 2006, 2:17 AM
Spht
Since there's Korean in there, it was probably Sargera.  He seems to enjoy writing Korean on English documents.
January 3, 2006, 7:00 PM
QwertyMonster
EDIT:

Got on it now! Lol.
January 3, 2006, 7:29 PM
UserLoser
[quote author=Spht link=topic=13747.msg140270#msg140270 date=1136314850]
Since there's Korean in there, it was probably Sargera.  He seems to enjoy writing Korean on English documents.
[/quote]

Probably.  I don't think there's that many other people obsessed.
January 3, 2006, 7:56 PM
KkBlazekK
Heh, theres a BNLS entry too. :)
January 3, 2006, 10:26 PM
JoeTheOdd
That is a horrible resource. Aparently, the entire clan updates BNLS, which is actually done by UserLoser, who despite regularing these forums, is not a member. Also, the clan itself did not document the BNCS protocol, but Arta and Skywing did.

This informative post was brought to you by High King Jojo. =)
January 3, 2006, 10:43 PM
dx
[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=13747.msg140281#msg140281 date=1136318162]
[quote author=Spht link=topic=13747.msg140270#msg140270 date=1136314850]
Since there's Korean in there, it was probably Sargera.  He seems to enjoy writing Korean on English documents.
[/quote]

Probably.  I don't think there's that many other people obsessed.
[/quote]

See: Joe. (He's full of vL factoids)
January 3, 2006, 11:03 PM
zorm
[quote author=Joe link=topic=13747.msg140304#msg140304 date=1136328205]
That is a horrible resource. Aparently, the entire clan updates BNLS, which is actually done by UserLoser, who despite regularing these forums, is not a member. Also, the clan itself did not document the BNCS protocol, but Arta and Skywing did.

This informative post was brought to you by High King Jojo. =)
[/quote]

Actually, BNLS was originally maintained by Skywing, Yoni, and Spht. Userloser just so happens to maintain version updates now. Documentation of the BNCS protocol predates vL; however, Bnetdocs is infact Arta's creation with contributions from Skywing and I suspect Adron played atleast some part.

Also if you care to read the rules page you'll see that things belong to their original creator and not the clan so proclaiming something to be the clan's is plain wrong.
January 3, 2006, 11:18 PM
Newby
[quote author=Spht link=topic=13747.msg140270#msg140270 date=1136314850]
Since there's Korean in there, it was probably Sargera.  He seems to enjoy writing Korean on English documents.
[/quote]

There wasn't any Korean writing in it this morning.
January 4, 2006, 12:09 AM
iago
[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=13747.msg140281#msg140281 date=1136318162]
[quote author=Spht link=topic=13747.msg140270#msg140270 date=1136314850]
Since there's Korean in there, it was probably Sargera.  He seems to enjoy writing Korean on English documents.
[/quote]

Probably.  I don't think there's that many other people obsessed.
[/quote]

Nope, pretty much just him and you.  And since you haven't taken credit.. :P
January 4, 2006, 3:26 AM
zorm
You know whats great about wikipedia? It has a history so you can see who created it. It gives the IP 69.196.167.105, someone should go look it up and figure out who it is.
January 4, 2006, 4:41 AM
Mephisto
[quote author=iago link=topic=13747.msg140376#msg140376 date=1136345211]
[quote author=Spht link=topic=13747.msg140270#msg140270 date=1136314850]
Since there's Korean in there, it was probably Sargera.  He seems to enjoy writing Korean on English documents.
[/quote]

Probably.  I don't think there's that many other people obsessed.
[/quote]

Ugh...I don't even know where to begin how pathetically stupid it is that you people continue to point out the most insignificant things and make a discussion about them.
January 4, 2006, 4:48 AM
Kp
[quote author=Zorm link=topic=13747.msg140397#msg140397 date=1136349700]
You know whats great about wikipedia? It has a history so you can see who created it. It gives the IP 69.196.167.105, someone should go look it up and figure out who it is.
[/quote]

Since the forum administrators can see everyone's IP address, the most expedient approach would be to get one of them worked up enough to care about identifying this mystery poster. ;)
January 4, 2006, 4:58 AM
Null
Or you could just go outside for the first time in your life and not even care who put your lame clan on wikipedia.


January 4, 2006, 5:03 AM
Kp
[quote author=effect link=topic=13747.msg140403#msg140403 date=1136351024]Or you could just go outside for the first time in your life and not even care who put your lame clan on wikipedia.[/quote]

Sadly, I must go outside every day.  It's terrible and bright, except when water falls from the sky.  The temperature changes wildly and uncontrollably, and there are people out there who insist on making eye contact.  I don't like the world outside.

The fact that we're joking about this instead of fingering the perpetrator says we really don't care enough to put much effort into finding whoever posted about us.  Why should we?  They couldn't even be bothered to write a full (non-stub) article!
January 4, 2006, 5:34 AM
Rule
[quote author=effect link=topic=13747.msg140403#msg140403 date=1136351024]
Or you could just go outside...
[/quote]

And be exposed to natural light??!!
January 4, 2006, 5:50 AM
Arta
The sun makes me puke.
January 4, 2006, 10:56 AM
Disco
[quote author=Kp link=topic=13747.msg140413#msg140413 date=1136352884]
Sadly, I must go outside every day. It's terrible and bright, except when [red]water falls from the sky[/red]. The temperature changes wildly and uncontrollably, and there are people out there who insist on making eye contact. I don't like the world outside.

The fact that we're joking about this instead of fingering the perpetrator says we really don't care enough to put much effort into finding whoever posted about us. Why should we? They couldn't even be bothered to write a full (non-stub) article!
[/quote]
Water from the sky?  This I've got to see...
January 4, 2006, 11:39 AM
iago
[quote author=Mephisto link=topic=13747.msg140398#msg140398 date=1136350090]
[quote author=iago link=topic=13747.msg140376#msg140376 date=1136345211]
[quote author=Spht link=topic=13747.msg140270#msg140270 date=1136314850]
Since there's Korean in there, it was probably Sargera.  He seems to enjoy writing Korean on English documents.
[/quote]

Probably.  I don't think there's that many other people obsessed.
[/quote]

Ugh...I don't even know where to begin how pathetically stupid it is that you people continue to point out the most insignificant things and make a discussion about them.
[/quote]

See, you screwed up my quote.  My quote was SUPPOSED to be making fun of UserLoser, but you ruined it.  I call MISQUOTE!!
January 4, 2006, 5:39 PM
rabbit
[quote author=Disco link=topic=13747.msg140443#msg140443 date=1136374778]
[quote author=Kp link=topic=13747.msg140413#msg140413 date=1136352884]
Sadly, I must go outside every day. It's terrible and bright, except when [red]water falls from the sky[/red]. The temperature changes wildly and uncontrollably, and there are people out there who insist on making eye contact. I don't like the world outside.

The fact that we're joking about this instead of fingering the perpetrator says we really don't care enough to put much effort into finding whoever posted about us. Why should we? They couldn't even be bothered to write a full (non-stub) article!
[/quote]
Water from the sky?  This I've got to see...
[/quote]Get pictures.  You'll need to prove it to me.
January 5, 2006, 1:59 AM
Myndfyr
Uh.... back on-topic, I updated the Valhalla Legends topic so it is hopefully more accurate and factual.  I removed the {{notability}} template and added it to the Requests for Move list to be moved to [[Valhalla Legends]] instead of where it is now, [[Valhalla legends]] (apparently some people don't know what a proper noun is).  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla_legends

I also updated the BNLS article with information about RCRS, BNCSUtil and MBNCSUtil as "related products".  I also modified slightly some wording about UserLoser that was somewhat gratuitous.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNLS
January 5, 2006, 3:15 AM
jigsaw
Alright, You caught the tater! I made wikipedia vl entries - I'm sorry. Im just so happy to be the only non-programmer in vl, and Im so glad, and happy for my fellow vlers, I just had to let it be known....  I dont know where I'd be without vl they have been there for me through the goodtimes and the bad, even when I was in prison they had a fundraiser for me to get me off of death row. It brings a tear to my eye.
January 5, 2006, 3:22 AM
UserLoser
Btw, it's Battle.net Logon Server, not Battle.net Login Server  :P
January 5, 2006, 4:24 AM
Myndfyr
[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=13747.msg140565#msg140565 date=1136435051]
Btw, it's Battle.net Logon Server, not Battle.net Login Server  :P
[/quote]
That's better than what it said, Battle.net Login Service.  :P
January 5, 2006, 5:06 AM
Ender
Does anyone know anything about whether wikipedia has a screening process, and if so how efficient it is and what they do? I know they have bots that do spell-checking and other useful things (I'm not sure whether these clients are official or unofficial, I'd assume some are legitimate and not emulation), but I don't know whether they put all edits into a queue and check them with various programs before putting them on the site, etc., and whether there is a human team that moderates the site and is notified of all new edits.
January 7, 2006, 2:01 AM
Arta
It doesn't.
January 7, 2006, 8:24 AM
Ender
vL on wikipedia is in danger of being deleted! =(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Valhalla_legends#.5B.5BValhalla_legends.5D.5D
January 7, 2006, 10:46 PM
Newby
[quote]Delete. Typical gamercruft. Not-notable to boot. Dan 23:16, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[/quote]

Ouch.

Even an admin is for deleting the article. :P

[quote]Delete per DreamGuy FreplySpang (talk) 06:15, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[/quote]
January 7, 2006, 11:15 PM
Myndfyr
The biggest problem would be "verifiability".  It seems to me that anything members would contribute would be more related to "original research."  Maybe we should write to Wikisource.  :P
January 8, 2006, 10:16 AM
Arta
I think merging it into Battle.net might be ok.
January 8, 2006, 10:52 AM
Kp
We're a niche group certainly, but I find it rather offensive to state that we're not notable within that niche.
January 8, 2006, 4:49 PM
rabbit
As do I.  I know that a lot of programmers would not have been the people they are today without vL, myself included.
January 8, 2006, 5:50 PM
shadypalm88
Well I at least voted to keep.  Probably won't matter though.
January 8, 2006, 6:31 PM
Myndfyr
I think merging into Battle.net would be in error; if anything, BNLS would be more appropriate.
January 8, 2006, 8:58 PM
Newby
Gone.
January 13, 2006, 11:14 PM
JoeTheOdd
*shouts loudly* MENTAL.. PUPPY.. DAMNIT!
January 14, 2006, 12:10 AM
hismajesty
[me="hismajesty[yL]"]motions for somebody to start the article anew (without it being such a stub and to actually have more information/reason for notability/etc.)[/me]
January 14, 2006, 12:25 AM
Yegg
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=13747.msg141742#msg141742 date=1137198328]
[me="hismajesty[yL]"]motions for somebody to start the article anew (without it being such a stub and to actually have more information/reason for notability/etc.)[/me]
[/quote]

Someone from vL.
January 14, 2006, 12:28 AM
Kp
Why bother?  If they deleted us once, they'll likely not see the error of their ways when we recreate.  I find it amusing that the AfD page asserts that the sudden swell of support was mere sock puppetry.
January 14, 2006, 12:42 AM
kamakazie
[quote author=Yegg link=topic=13747.msg141743#msg141743 date=1137198500]
[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=13747.msg141742#msg141742 date=1137198328]
[me="hismajesty[yL]"]motions for somebody to start the article anew (without it being such a stub and to actually have more information/reason for notability/etc.)[/me]
[/quote]

Someone from vL.
[/quote]

I don't think that is allowed on wikipedia. At least, there are rules against people writing about themself and I'm sure groups fall into this category as well.
January 14, 2006, 1:21 AM
Myndfyr
[quote author=Kp link=topic=13747.msg141746#msg141746 date=1137199323]
Why bother?  If they deleted us once, they'll likely not see the error of their ways when we recreate.  I find it amusing that the AfD page asserts that the sudden swell of support was mere sock puppetry.
[/quote]

I think it was because people did it anonymously.

Since we'd all be "original source" content producers, I think we should put the article on Wikisource.  :P
January 15, 2006, 7:58 PM
Arta
I already appealed. It's going to be undeleted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review#Valhalla_Legends
January 16, 2006, 12:37 AM
Zakath
If I was a bit more familiar with the Wikipedia system I might have done so myself. I had the same thoughts regarding the deletion process as you did.
January 23, 2006, 7:19 PM

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