Valhalla Legends Forums Archive | Spht's Forum | Looking for really active person to register Webbots

AuthorMessageTime
Spht
Requirements:

- Visits this forum at least once a day.
- Must have access to Botnet client (not webbot, must be bot that lets you chat on Botnet like SphtBotv3).
- Must wear webbot team signature tag (see my signature).
- Register webbots.

Reply.
December 21, 2005, 2:22 PM
PaiD
I could do it.
December 21, 2005, 3:41 PM
UserLoser.
Me
December 21, 2005, 6:13 PM
kamakazie
Why not automate it? Shouldn't be that hard to connect to the database and look for posts in that forum containing a certain text.
December 21, 2005, 7:53 PM
Quarantine
I'll do it.
December 21, 2005, 9:15 PM
Spht
[quote author=dxoigmn link=topic=13608.msg138766#msg138766 date=1135194790]
Why not automate it? Shouldn't be that hard to connect to the database and look for posts in that forum containing a certain text.
[/quote]

Automated registration defeats the whole purpose of having a registration process.

We could easily allow everyone to have their own web channel feed without needing to go through the registration process (/bnw $4 set * B), but that would open it up to exploitation--we don't want 1000 autobots spamming the WebChannel service all day.  Human-monitored registration is necessary to avoid these type of problems.
December 21, 2005, 10:10 PM
Explicit[nK]
[quote author=Spht link=topic=13608.msg138742#msg138742 date=1135174958]
Requirements:

- Visits this forum at least once a day.
- Must have access to Botnet client (not webbot, must be bot that lets you chat on Botnet like SphtBotv3).
- Must wear webbot team signature tag (see my signature).
- Register webbots.

Reply.
[/quote]

I'm willing to do it, but what I'm wondering is how you are going to choose someone.  The reason being that just about everyone meets those specifications.
December 21, 2005, 11:29 PM
kamakazie
[quote author=Spht link=topic=13608.msg138783#msg138783 date=1135203021]
[quote author=dxoigmn link=topic=13608.msg138766#msg138766 date=1135194790]
Why not automate it? Shouldn't be that hard to connect to the database and look for posts in that forum containing a certain text.
[/quote]

Automated registration defeats the whole purpose of having a registration process.

We could easily allow everyone to have their own web channel feed without needing to go through the registration process (/bnw $4 set * B), but that would open it up to exploitation--we don't want 1000 autobots spamming the WebChannel service all day.  Human-monitored registration is necessary to avoid these type of problems.
[/quote]

Not entirely true. The reason for registration based services is so administrators can control users. With anonymous access, it is difficult to control particular users.

It shouldn't be that hard to develop huristics to manage an automated process. If you're really worried about someone creating some program to auto post to this forum then you can use some sort of CAPTCHA to discern between humans and computers.
December 22, 2005, 12:06 AM
Spht
[quote author=Explicit[nK] link=topic=13608.msg138792#msg138792 date=1135207741]
I'm willing to do it, but what I'm wondering is how you are going to choose someone.  The reason being that just about everyone meets those specifications.
[/quote]

I'll pick the person who's most active.  Having a really good idea about how botnet operates would be a plus.

[quote author=dxoigmn link=topic=13608.msg138797#msg138797 date=1135210018]
[quote author=Spht link=topic=13608.msg138783#msg138783 date=1135203021]
[quote author=dxoigmn link=topic=13608.msg138766#msg138766 date=1135194790]
Why not automate it? Shouldn't be that hard to connect to the database and look for posts in that forum containing a certain text.
[/quote]

Automated registration defeats the whole purpose of having a registration process.

We could easily allow everyone to have their own web channel feed without needing to go through the registration process (/bnw $4 set * B), but that would open it up to exploitation--we don't want 1000 autobots spamming the WebChannel service all day.  Human-monitored registration is necessary to avoid these type of problems.
[/quote]

Not entirely true. The reason for registration based services is so administrators can control users. With anonymous access, it is difficult to control particular users.

It shouldn't be that hard to develop huristics to manage an automated process. If you're really worried about someone creating some program to auto post to this forum then you can use some sort of [urk=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captcha]CAPTCHA[/url] to discern between humans and computers.
[/quote]

I wasn't generalizing.  The purpose for OUR registration process is to greatly reduce such problems as I described.  FWIW, there's no such thing as "anonymous access" on botnet.  Everyone requires an unique account for any botnet services to pay attention to them.

In the 2 years that we've been registering accounts over the forum, we have not had any problems with webchannel abuse, and it required no extra programming to do it this way.

I'm looking for a new registrar because I have been very inactive in the past few months, and will be more inactive in the coming months after the holidays.
December 22, 2005, 12:34 AM
Quarantine
I know how BotNet works! I'm active!
It would give me something todo while browsing forums :)
December 22, 2005, 1:08 AM
UserLoser.
[quote author=Spht link=topic=13608.msg138802#msg138802 date=1135211660]
[quote author=Explicit[nK] link=topic=13608.msg138792#msg138792 date=1135207741]
I'm willing to do it, but what I'm wondering is how you are going to choose someone.  The reason being that just about everyone meets those specifications.
[/quote]

I'll pick the person who's most active.  Having a really good idea about how botnet operates would be a plus.

[quote author=dxoigmn link=topic=13608.msg138797#msg138797 date=1135210018]
[quote author=Spht link=topic=13608.msg138783#msg138783 date=1135203021]
[quote author=dxoigmn link=topic=13608.msg138766#msg138766 date=1135194790]
Why not automate it? Shouldn't be that hard to connect to the database and look for posts in that forum containing a certain text.
[/quote]

Automated registration defeats the whole purpose of having a registration process.

We could easily allow everyone to have their own web channel feed without needing to go through the registration process (/bnw $4 set * B), but that would open it up to exploitation--we don't want 1000 autobots spamming the WebChannel service all day.  Human-monitored registration is necessary to avoid these type of problems.
[/quote]

Not entirely true. The reason for registration based services is so administrators can control users. With anonymous access, it is difficult to control particular users.

It shouldn't be that hard to develop huristics to manage an automated process. If you're really worried about someone creating some program to auto post to this forum then you can use some sort of [urk=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captcha]CAPTCHA[/url] to discern between humans and computers.
[/quote]

I wasn't generalizing.  The purpose for OUR registration process is to greatly reduce such problems as I described.  FWIW, there's no such thing as "anonymous access" on botnet.  Everyone requires an unique account for any botnet services to pay attention to them.

In the 2 years that we've been registering accounts over the forum, we have not had any problems with webchannel abuse, and it required no extra programming to do it this way.

I'm looking for a new registrar because I have been very inactive in the past few months, and will be more inactive in the coming months after the holidays.
[/quote]

Blah blah blah, Spht you know who should take the job :P
December 22, 2005, 6:17 AM
JoeTheOdd
I know you've already selected Warrior, but if you're looking for another person, I'll accept.

I'm pretty used to how BotNet works (I contact you sometimes over it, yay!). In fact, Warrior was using BotNet Broadcasts to talk to me, instead of BotNet database broadcasts. Silly war.
December 23, 2005, 8:18 AM
UserLoser.
[quote author=Joe link=topic=13608.msg138987#msg138987 date=1135325887]
I know you've already selected Warrior, but if you're looking for another person, I'll accept.

I'm pretty used to how BotNet works (I contact you sometimes over it, yay!). In fact, Warrior was using BotNet Broadcasts to talk to me, instead of BotNet database broadcasts. Silly war.
[/quote]

Too bad Warrior can't broadcast over the entire Botnet, only the database.
December 23, 2005, 5:49 PM
Quarantine
[quote author=Joe link=topic=13608.msg138987#msg138987 date=1135325887]
I know you've already selected Warrior, but if you're looking for another person, I'll accept.

I'm pretty used to how BotNet works (I contact you sometimes over it, yay!). In fact, Warrior was using BotNet Broadcasts to talk to me, instead of BotNet database broadcasts. Silly war.
[/quote]

Then what's the difference between /bnc and /bnd? If one broadcasts the the entire database what does the other one do? Additionally you were using them first. Silly joe.
December 23, 2005, 6:25 PM
Newby
Congrats Warrior! You really deserved it. You were much more qualified overall compared to your competition. :)
December 23, 2005, 8:31 PM
David
Why not just write a program that goes through accounts that have been inactive for a certain amount of time and disables them, and have an automated program to register clients, that should even it out to a certain extent.  Like disabling accounts that have been inactive for more than ~72hrs, or something along those lines?
December 24, 2005, 2:17 AM
Quarantine
One word: Overkill.
December 24, 2005, 2:32 AM
Spht
[quote author=David link=topic=13608.msg139086#msg139086 date=1135390656]
Why not just write a program that goes through accounts that have been inactive for a certain amount of time and disables them, and have an automated program to register clients, that should even it out to a certain extent.  Like disabling accounts that have been inactive for more than ~72hrs, or something along those lines?
[/quote]

What purpose would that serve?
December 24, 2005, 2:58 AM
Kp
Any time that the activation is automated, the system can be abused.  Automatic canceling of stale accounts, while useful, has no bearing on abusability.
December 24, 2005, 8:34 PM
JoeTheOdd
72 hours is WAY too short. Think summer vacation. Not that it's going to be implemented or anything, but still.

EDIT -
And to counter the "just leave your computer on" responce, think summer vacation with a power outtage. ^_^
December 29, 2005, 9:00 AM
QwertyMonster
Congrats Warrior.
December 30, 2005, 3:20 PM

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