A 25 yr old British man could be the first person in the world to have cured himself of the deadly HIV virus. He was diagnosed HIV positive in 2002. After another test done the following year, he stunned doctors when his test results turned negative. He is now a wanted man after researchers and doctors want him to come back for further testing but he has so far refused. Experts think he could have something in his immune system that may help in producing vaccines against HIV.

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It's great that he's willing to put himself out there to help others, too.

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There was an article about people who were exposed to bubonic plague but never infected being invulnerable to HIV. Same case?

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There was an article about people who were exposed to bubonic plague but never infected being invulnerable to HIV. Same case?
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Don't Think so this is a new case I just seen it on cnn last night.

We're evolving.  ;D

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We always will, Why do you think the common cold doesnt kill us?

If he doesnt go back for further test that could help create a vaccine hes a cunt and wish he would have HIV again. He could potentially save millions.

Wow i wonder how much he is getting offered, just think.. he could be the man to save ALOT of people from H.I.V. Sweet...!! :P

If he won't expose himself to tests, then I wouldn't be surprised if he was faking it.  Like, if he has a twin brother, or he had a false positive/false negative. And now he's milking it for fame/publicity, and I'd bet he didn't do anything. 

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We always will, Why do you think the common cold doesnt kill us?

If he doesnt go back for further test that could help create a vaccine hes a cunt and wish he would have HIV again. He could potentially save millions.
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In the article it says he's willing to do what he can to help the fight against HIV, hence, offering himself to be tested on.

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We always will, Why do you think the common cold doesnt kill us?

If he doesnt go back for further test that could help create a vaccine hes a cunt and wish he would have HIV again. He could potentially save millions.
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In the article it says he's willing to do what he can to help the fight against HIV, hence, offering himself to be tested on.
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A statement from the trust said: "This is a rare and complex case. When we became aware of Mr Stimpson's HIV negative test results we offered him further tests to help us investigate and find an explanation for the different results.

"So far Mr Stimpson has declined this offer.

Ah, you're right.  I skimmed through it and read, "He has told the papers he would do anything he could to help find a cure."  So I assumed that he was going to help.  Sorry.  :P

We where talking about this in class if he dosen't wanna go in for testing sombody with alot of power and money who has HIV and want's to find a cure will kindnap him, so he is probley better off just go in for the testing.

Put it this way he will be the most hated man if he doesnt. Worse than hitler. Hitler tortured people to find out info medically. This guy is just nasty.

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We where talking about this in class if he dosen't wanna go in for testing sombody with alot of power and money who has HIV and want's to find a cure will kindnap him, so he is probley better off just go in for the testing.
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Maybe if what he claims is true, he's just holding out for money?

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Put it this way he will be the most hated man if he doesnt. Worse than hitler. Hitler tortured people to find out info medically. This guy is just nasty.
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If you had the opportunity to save 50,000 people by killing (and even, say, torturing) yourself, would you?  And, if you decided not to torture and kill yourself, would you have murdered those people?  That's an interesting question.

Totally irrelevant. But...

Hitler never ran the concentration camps to tell you the truth. Sure he was the boss, and the spark of it all. He did put certain people in charge, for example. Heinrich Himmler the SS chief, became leader of all the concentration camps, he was told to simply kill the jews. Hes the one who did the dirty work. Not only that, but he came up with ways( he was not alone, a guy I forgot his name, his job was to come up with ways of killing people, and he came up with alot of devices) of torture etc. Not only that but the Germans wanted to understand other races, so they did medical research. But not like research you think, more like sadistic shit, like put diseases in some one. Anti-freeze(example) retarded things just to find out what the effect were on people. And heck who better then the people they wanted to kill. I've seen so many photos.

But the best thing you can do to fully understand the whole Nazi Holocaust is to read the book itself. I read the whole damn thing.

And its a big fat book. Red cover, picture of a sad little girl. Title : The Nazi Holocaust.

Can't miss it in any library.

Plus I've read over a dozen books of hitler, biographies. And his whole rule. Also if you saw the movie Max, you'd understand why he hated jews so much. He wanted to become a painter, but the political group he spoke for found him a great speaker. Not only that but the people who he wanted to do paintings for didn't want the type of paintings he offered, so they told him to do this and that to them, But before he decided to go into politics this jew was going to offer him a job, as a painter. Giving him this chance to paint. Just so he wouldn't enter politics. Not only that but to live with some money, instead of constant poverty.  And they had set a meeting at some resturant, Hitler went there, with his paintings etc all happy. But the political group sent two people, and they went and killed the jew before he got to go meet him because they didn't want to lose him. Hitler was angry that the guy didn't show up, which is natural. Thus he entered politics. See they thought they could control Hitler, and in truth, that was their greatest mistake.

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Maybe if what he claims is true, he's just holding out for money?

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Put it this way he will be the most hated man if he doesnt. Worse than hitler. Hitler tortured people to find out info medically. This guy is just nasty.
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If you had the opportunity to save 50,000 people by killing (and even, say, torturing) yourself, would you? And, if you decided not to torture and kill yourself, would you have murdered those people? That's an interesting question.

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I, for one, would definitely offer myself up.  It would make me feel like I'm living for a reason, and leave me feeling content with this life, and the choice(s) I've made.

WoodTroll, Mein Kompf tells the story a whole lot better.

I'd do it, I mean seriously think of how easy it would be to get girls. "So what do you do?" "Oh, I just helped cure cancer.." -- that's motivation enough :P

I would not rush to judgment on this fellow human.  It's all new to him and has to be quite overwhelming.  If someone came to you and told you that you alone had the power to save the world and we need to perform biological tests on you, what would it do to you?  Probably none of us can predict how long it would take to adjust to this situation.  His life is now ruined, whatever it was it is no longer.  Whether its true or some false results, the rest of his life is changed.  If it were you, I am sure you would not want 50 million people insisting on what you should do, and if you don't comply, "you are slime", or "you are greedy", "selfish" or a thousand other descriptions.

He needs to proceed carefully and act in the best interests of himself, his family, and then humanity.  If that means he has to secure 20 million BP to guarantee he can live out a secure life away from his unrequested fame, then so be it.

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We where talking about this in class if he dosen't wanna go in for testing sombody with alot of power and money who has HIV and want's to find a cure will kindnap him, so he is probley better off just go in for the testing.
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Maybe if what he claims is true, he's just holding out for money?

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Put it this way he will be the most hated man if he doesnt. Worse than hitler. Hitler tortured people to find out info medically. This guy is just nasty.
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If you had the opportunity to save 50,000 people by killing (and even, say, torturing) yourself, would you? And, if you decided not to torture and kill yourself, would you have murdered those people? That's an interesting question.

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I, for one, would definitely offer myself up.  It would make me feel like I'm living for a reason, and leave me feeling content with this life, and the choice(s) I've made.
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That's not the point.  I don't care if anybody here would do it, I care that, if somebody didn't do it, are they worse than Hitler?

Grok's post pretty much has the points that I would have made.  You would not be worse than Hitler for those reasons.

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Maybe if what he claims is true, he's just holding out for money?

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Put it this way he will be the most hated man if he doesnt. Worse than hitler. Hitler tortured people to find out info medically. This guy is just nasty.
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If you had the opportunity to save 50,000 people by killing (and even, say, torturing) yourself, would you? And, if you decided not to torture and kill yourself, would you have murdered those people? That's an interesting question.

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I, for one, would definitely offer myself up.  It would make me feel like I'm living for a reason, and leave me feeling content with this life, and the choice(s) I've made.
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That's not the point.  I don't care if anybody here would do it, I care that, if somebody didn't do it, are they worse than Hitler?
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Yes!

Heinrich and I share a birthday.. :-\