Valhalla Legends Forums Archive | Battle.net Bot Development | Clan Ops Glitch!

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PaiD
There is a serious flaw on bnet's behalf that allows attackers to gain access to a war3 operated clan channel, I have trying to find the possibilities on how a attacker can comprimise the channel without clan members of the vitimized lending a hand on the assault.  Would anyone here like to help and crack this puzzle with me, any suggestions ideas would be appreciated
November 6, 2005, 6:59 AM
Newby
[quote author=Savior link=topic=13168.msg133017#msg133017 date=1131260364]
There is a serious flaw on bnet's behalf that allows attackers to gain access to a war3 operated clan channel, I have trying to find the possibilities on how a attacker can comprimise the channel without clan members of the vitimized lending a hand on the assault.
[/quote]

Would those clan members by any chance designate the attacker and rejoin?

Want to elaborate on how this is done?
November 6, 2005, 7:14 AM
Newby
[quote author=Savior link=topic=13168.msg133019#msg133019 date=1131261490]
Not sure yet
[/quote]

Want to elaborate on what you have so far? Or are you just stating "I think there's a problem... but I'm not sure yet!"?
November 6, 2005, 7:21 AM
Networks
[quote author=Savior link=topic=13168.msg133017#msg133017 date=1131260364]
There is a serious flaw on bnet's behalf that allows attackers to gain access to a war3 operated clan channel, I have trying to find the possibilities on how a attacker can comprimise the channel without clan members of the vitimized lending a hand on the assault.  Would anyone here like to help and crack this puzzle with me, any suggestions ideas would be appreciated
[/quote]

[me=Networks]ponders if Deception's idea worked with the source code I gave him that attempted to do it :P[/me]
November 6, 2005, 3:28 PM
Quarantine
eww Deception. Anyway a battle.net glitch, whohoo.
November 6, 2005, 3:50 PM
MyStiCaL
   I've already figured out, i'd say it here, but i know everyone on battle.net will be checking here, and i don't feel the need everyone should be taking down all clans for this lil bug.

  But after you do the trick, You cannot reconnect, other wise you lose status. you may rejoin, leave, come back, as long as you don't disconnect, it also requires the use of proxys. because sending the battle.net packets will ipban you, you do have to load multiple bots. and you gain cheif status. after you reconnect you cannot do it to the same clan channel for another 7 days. You may do this on any client as you wish except warcraft III.

You cannot use anybot to do this as most bots wont let you use these packets on certain clients. its a very easy trick indeed, i am however surprized no one has it done it before.

- - - -

  Also other glitchs i have been found while sitting there last night trying to figure this one out was;

You can send whispers to users from them selfs, so it pretty much makes it look like they are talkin to them selfs or you can whisper somone else but from someone else.  you can pretty much act like a bnet rep except in the fact that you cannot change the color of your text to blue.

And also you can drop war3 shamans, and chief, by sending the right packets a certain amount of times fairly simple.
November 6, 2005, 9:23 PM
UserLoser.
Old news~
November 6, 2005, 10:43 PM
Topaz
All you're doing is inviting ten starcraft bots, having them accept, and bnet sends you to the specified clan channel that you mentioned. Title and Clan must be identical to the existing clan.
November 6, 2005, 11:37 PM
MyStiCaL
Yet your close but your still wrong, theres important things you need to know, other wise your just gunna automaticly drop.

And words been out on bnet since my last post so alot of people figured it out but they can't do it, because they don't know the right requirements needed.
November 7, 2005, 12:09 AM
Newby
[quote author=MyStiCaL link=topic=13168.msg133050#msg133050 date=1131322168]
Yet your close but your still wrong, theres important things you need to know, other wise your just gunna automaticly drop.
[/quote]

You mean using proxies?
November 7, 2005, 12:23 AM
Sean
Since everyone is doing it... i thought i'd tell y'all what to do..

You'll need more than 1 person to do this:
1 Person loads the bot that is going to invite.. the chieftain.
The rest load the remaining 9 bots on 1 client..
and then just invite em all like if you were making a warcraft 3 clan..
November 7, 2005, 1:35 AM
Topaz
Mystical: I tested it, it works fine.

Sean: You're just repeating what I said.
November 7, 2005, 1:52 AM
Twix
Does the chieftain have to be a wc3, or is it just all starcraft acting like its making a channel then just over rides the warcraft datebase and puts the starcraft bot as the new chieftain.

This is a bigger problem then I thought alot of people are already posting to b.net saying there channel is getting taken.
[url]http://www.battle.net/forums/thread.aspx?fn=opensupport&t=396416&p=1&#post396416[/url]
November 7, 2005, 2:56 AM
Sean
Its just all sc.. basically making a clan over another clan...
November 7, 2005, 4:43 AM
Newby
The Blizzard fanboys are quick to defend anything that would indicate Blizzard is neglectful at maintaining their games. :P
November 7, 2005, 4:46 AM
MyStiCaL
 
  You don't need 10 bots to make a channel.
  You will be ipbanned instantly on clan creation if you don't know how to do it,  in witch Fact you have to have proxys to keep chief.
  You only need 2 bots to do it.
 
Its done and over with and well far passed, this was well showed to the public by someone that was watching us figure this out.
November 7, 2005, 7:25 AM
Myndfyr
Personally I appreciate the value of being able to make clans with down-level clients, but I think this is just going to prompt a Blizzard crackdown on bots.  :/
November 7, 2005, 4:44 PM
Twix
[quote author=MyndFyre link=topic=13168.msg133095#msg133095 date=1131381898]
Personally I appreciate the value of being able to make clans with down-level clients, but I think this is just going to prompt a Blizzard crackdown on bots.  :/
[/quote]
I was thinking this I hope this does not cause battle net to start cracking down on 3rd party clients
November 7, 2005, 9:05 PM
Newby
[quote author=MyndFyre link=topic=13168.msg133095#msg133095 date=1131381898]
Personally I appreciate the value of being able to make clans with down-level clients, but I think this is just going to prompt a Blizzard crackdown on bots.  :/
[/quote]

Good riddance.

This'll make bots something difficult to write / obtain, hopefully. :)
November 7, 2005, 10:26 PM
JoeTheOdd
[quote author=Newby link=topic=13168.msg133114#msg133114 date=1131402415]
[quote author=MyndFyre link=topic=13168.msg133095#msg133095 date=1131381898]
Personally I appreciate the value of being able to make clans with down-level clients, but I think this is just going to prompt a Blizzard crackdown on bots. :/
[/quote]

Good riddance.

This'll make bots something difficult to write / obtain, hopefully. :)
[/quote]

We've reverse-engineered every single thing they've thrown at us to a useable extent. We have some brilliant programmers here (Skywing, Grok, Adron, Arta, Yoni), probably smarter than Blizzard, especially in the reversing genre of the job. Do you seriously think they can stop all of us put together without drastic changes to the protocol, which would just end up breaking everything they already have and effectively putting a ton of bugs back into the system?
November 7, 2005, 11:12 PM
Quarantine
We? Us? You?
November 7, 2005, 11:13 PM
rabbit
Skywing isn't really....."around".
November 7, 2005, 11:18 PM
Networks
[quote author=Joe link=topic=13168.msg133118#msg133118 date=1131405120]
[quote author=Newby link=topic=13168.msg133114#msg133114 date=1131402415]
[quote author=MyndFyre link=topic=13168.msg133095#msg133095 date=1131381898]
Personally I appreciate the value of being able to make clans with down-level clients, but I think this is just going to prompt a Blizzard crackdown on bots. :/
[/quote]

Good riddance.

This'll make bots something difficult to write / obtain, hopefully. :)
[/quote]

We've reverse-engineered every single thing they've thrown at us to a useable extent. We have some brilliant programmers here (Skywing, Grok, Adron, Arta, Yoni), probably smarter than Blizzard, especially in the reversing genre of the job. Do you seriously think they can stop all of us put together without drastic changes to the protocol, which would just end up breaking everything they already have and effectively putting a ton of bugs back into the system?
[/quote]

Wow...Could you be sucking vL's dick any harder? (No offense, but good lord something had to be said)
November 8, 2005, 12:34 AM
Newby
[quote author=Joe link=topic=13168.msg133118#msg133118 date=1131405120]
[quote author=Newby link=topic=13168.msg133114#msg133114 date=1131402415]
[quote author=MyndFyre link=topic=13168.msg133095#msg133095 date=1131381898]
Personally I appreciate the value of being able to make clans with down-level clients, but I think this is just going to prompt a Blizzard crackdown on bots. :/
[/quote]

Good riddance.

This'll make bots something difficult to write / obtain, hopefully. :)
[/quote]

We've reverse-engineered every single thing they've thrown at us to a useable extent. We have some brilliant programmers here (Skywing, Grok, Adron, Arta, Yoni), probably smarter than Blizzard, especially in the reversing genre of the job. Do you seriously think they can stop all of us put together without drastic changes to the protocol, which would just end up breaking everything they already have and effectively putting a ton of bugs back into the system?
[/quote]

Yes, because I see so many WoW bots.

Hint: don't brown nose.
November 8, 2005, 1:19 AM
Forged
[quote author=Newby link=topic=13168.msg133114#msg133114 date=1131402415]
[quote author=MyndFyre link=topic=13168.msg133095#msg133095 date=1131381898]
Personally I appreciate the value of being able to make clans with down-level clients, but I think this is just going to prompt a Blizzard crackdown on bots.  :/
[/quote]

Good riddance.

This'll make bots something difficult to write / obtain, hopefully. :)
[/quote]

Why do you want to make bots hard to obtain?
November 8, 2005, 6:34 AM
JoeTheOdd
We don't, Blizzard will if this keeps up.

[quote]Yes, because I see so many WoW bots.[/quote]
Well, Joe & friends (who will not be disclosed) have gotten some serious progress. I'll admit it, WoW is coming slower than WAR3 did, but you'll get over it, seeing as how you don't own a WoW subscription and have absolutely NO room to complain. =)
November 8, 2005, 3:13 PM
Skywing
[quote author=rabbit link=topic=13168.msg133124#msg133124 date=1131405513]
Skywing isn't really....."around".
[/quote]
Oh?
November 8, 2005, 4:35 PM
JoeTheOdd
Skywing: 1
Rabbit: 0
November 8, 2005, 5:30 PM
HdxBmx27
Haha stupied blizzard and not fixing simple problems even tho they know about it...
[10:00:39.893] <PeterN.Support@Blizzard> Good morning all.
[10:01:17.612] <PeterN.Support@Blizzard> There are no updates on the clan channel issues yet I'm sorry.

:/
~-~(HDX)~-~
November 8, 2005, 6:13 PM
QwertyMonster
When Blizzard fix glitches, they just make more. Well they did last time. All those patches we went through! How exactly did somebody work this glitch out though? Funny, you must of been LOOKING for a glitch to-able to work it all out? I want to know how you exactly found out about it, whoever did.. :p
November 8, 2005, 6:41 PM
Treason
[quote author=QwertyMonster link=topic=13168.msg133184#msg133184 date=1131475297]
When Blizzard fix glitches, they just make more. Well they did last time. All those patches we went through! How exactly did somebody work this glitch out though? Funny, you must of been LOOKING for a glitch to-able to work it all out? I want to know how you exactly found out about it, whoever did.. :p
[/quote]

haha so true. I just want blizzard to fix the problem so all the clans will stop dieing.. it's getting kindof sad :)
November 8, 2005, 7:48 PM
Twix
[quote author=QwertyMonster link=topic=13168.msg133184#msg133184 date=1131475297]
When Blizzard fix glitches, they just make more. Well they did last time. All those patches we went through! How exactly did somebody work this glitch out though? Funny, you must of been LOOKING for a glitch to-able to work it all out? I want to know how you exactly found out about it, whoever did.. :p
[/quote]
lol this is true blizzard causes more problems when they patch but this is such a easy server fix if they mess this up they need to be slapped.

edit: wow b.net must be fixing this problem faster then I though I just got this message.
[3:32:24 PM] Broadcast: This Battle.net server is going down for maintenance.  Please connect to another server.
November 8, 2005, 8:10 PM
Yegg
"[15:32:46]  Server broadcast: This Battle.net server is going down for maintenance.  Please connect to another server."

This update didn't seem to affect my non-BNLS bots.
November 8, 2005, 9:12 PM
Forged
[quote author=Joe link=topic=13168.msg133166#msg133166 date=1131462818]
We don't, Blizzard will if this keeps up.
[/quote]

I guess you missed this part then....

"This'll make bots something difficult to write / obtain, hopefully"
November 8, 2005, 9:25 PM
JoeTheOdd
oh, yeah, well thats just newby =p
November 8, 2005, 10:26 PM
Newby
[quote author=QwertyMonster link=topic=13168.msg133184#msg133184 date=1131475297]
When Blizzard fix glitches, they just make more. Well they did last time. All those patches we went through! How exactly did somebody work this glitch out though? Funny, you must of been LOOKING for a glitch to-able to work it all out? I want to know how you exactly found out about it, whoever did.. :p
[/quote]

Probably using a bot and accidentally sent the invite as a Starcraft client, found that it didn't disconnect him outright (or maybe it did), and he wanted to see if it'd work if he finished the invitation / creation...?
November 8, 2005, 10:30 PM
QwertyMonster
[quote author=Newby link=topic=13168.msg133225#msg133225 date=1131489054]
[quote author=QwertyMonster link=topic=13168.msg133184#msg133184 date=1131475297]
When Blizzard fix glitches, they just make more. Well they did last time. All those patches we went through! How exactly did somebody work this glitch out though? Funny, you must of been LOOKING for a glitch to-able to work it all out? I want to know how you exactly found out about it, whoever did.. :p
[/quote]



Probably using a bot and accidentally sent the invite as a Starcraft client, found that it didn't disconnect him outright (or maybe it did), and he wanted to see if it'd work if he finished the invitation / creation...?
[/quote]

Maybe. Well i hope Blizzard fix it and don't cause any MORE glitches. *sigh* :P
November 8, 2005, 10:38 PM
rabbit
[quote author=Skywing link=topic=13168.msg133172#msg133172 date=1131467749]
[quote author=rabbit link=topic=13168.msg133124#msg133124 date=1131405513]
Skywing isn't really....."around".
[/quote]
Oh?
[/quote]Yes.  You check in every now and then, but you're not here every week making post(s) likes most of the other regulars.
November 10, 2005, 2:56 AM
Forged
[quote author=Joe link=topic=13168.msg133222#msg133222 date=1131488801]
oh, yeah, well thats just newby =p
[/quote]

I realize that, which is why the question was directed at him and was about a comment he made.
November 10, 2005, 5:36 AM
JoeTheOdd
Oh.

/target Joe
/slap
November 10, 2005, 1:06 PM
Newby
[quote author=Forged link=topic=13168.msg133394#msg133394 date=1131601009]
[quote author=Joe link=topic=13168.msg133222#msg133222 date=1131488801]
oh, yeah, well thats just newby =p
[/quote]

I realize that, which is why the question was directed at him and was about a comment he made.
[/quote]

Well, if you go on Battle.net, half the morons on it shouldn't be able to use a bot...

It would be nice if you had to have half a brain to use a bot.
November 10, 2005, 10:07 PM
Quarantine
Or to "program" one ;).
November 10, 2005, 10:10 PM
Forged
[quote author=Newby link=topic=13168.msg133443#msg133443 date=1131660466]
[quote author=Forged link=topic=13168.msg133394#msg133394 date=1131601009]
[quote author=Joe link=topic=13168.msg133222#msg133222 date=1131488801]
oh, yeah, well thats just newby =p
[/quote]

I realize that, which is why the question was directed at him and was about a comment he made.
[/quote]

Well, if you go on Battle.net, half the morons on it shouldn't be able to use a bot...

It would be nice if you had to have half a brain to use a bot.
[/quote]

I have 8/16 of a brain, does that count?
November 10, 2005, 11:56 PM
Null
Not that the majority of you who posted in this thread could write a battle.net bot if they so happened to patch stuff up and nobody realeased source code publically ::)
November 11, 2005, 12:15 AM
Eternal
[quote]
Well, if you go on Battle.net, half the morons on it shouldn't be able to use a bot...

It would be nice if you had to have half a brain to use a bot.
[/quote]

What's a bot?

;)
November 11, 2005, 7:25 AM
tA-Kane
Off-topic
[quote author=Skywing link=topic=13168.msg133172#msg133172 date=1131467749]
[quote author=rabbit link=topic=13168.msg133124#msg133124 date=1131405513]
Skywing isn't really....."around".
[/quote]
Oh?
[/quote]
I can't help but notice that your last posts before today/yesterday were quite a few months ago.

Hi Skywing! How're you? It's been a long time. Why haven't you replied to me on MSN? I left the conversation open for about a week hoping you'd catch me at some random time, and even tried sending you a message via your contact page, but you never replied.  :(

For all intents and purposes, I think rabbit was right.
November 12, 2005, 2:33 AM

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