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Slaughter | Eh, problem on my homework, causing a bit of confusion. Use mathematical induction to prove the given proerty for all positive integers n. A factor of (2^2n-1 + 3^2n-1) is 5. I've got this far: (2^2k-1+3^2k-1) ?= 5*m I'm not really sure where to go from here based on knowledge of other mathematical induction proofs. | April 11, 2005, 7:45 PM |
Yoni | Induction is: Given a proposition P(n) (a proposition P that talks about an integer n), proving by induction that the proposition is TRUE for all positive integers is: 1) Proving that P(1) is true, that is, the proposition is true for n = 1. 2) Showing that P(k) => P(k + 1) for every positive integer k. That is: 2.a) Assume P(k) is true, that is, the proposition is true for n = k for some positive integer k. 2.b) Based on the assumption "2.a", prove that P(k+1) is true, that is, the proposition is true for n = k + 1. Looks like you haven't really started. Try again... | April 11, 2005, 8:18 PM |
Slaughter | Well, I skipped a couple of steps actually typing in here... I'm on the 3rd step, letting n = k+1, but I'm not sure how to set it up to actually prove the two equations are equal - from here I believe it's just algebraic, but I'm not exactly sure... Anyway: let n=1 5 = 5 let n=k, assume true (2^2k-1+3^2k-1)=5*n for some integer n. let n = k+1 2^2k+1 + 4^2+1 ?= 5*M From here, I'm not really sure where to go...let me know if I botched anything up with the above steps. Edit: I see I had botched typing in the first post - I typed 2^2k-1 instead of 2k+1 for both. | April 12, 2005, 2:03 AM |
Myndfyr | This is precalculus? I don't think I would have gotten into stuff like this until linear algebra in college, had I stuck with engineering. Either that, or I just don't remember it. :o | April 12, 2005, 2:07 AM |
Yoni | Proposition: For every positive integer n, [2^(2n - 1) + 3^(2n - 1)] / 5 = some integer. 1) Proof for n = 1: [2^(2*1 - 1) + 3^(2*1 - 1)] / 5 = (2^1 + 3^1) / 5 = 5/5 = 1 = some integer. 2.a) Assumption for n = k: We assume that it is true that [2^(2k - 1) + 3^(2k - 1)] / 5 = some integer. 2.b) Proof for n = k + 1: [2^(2k + 1) + 3^(2k + 1)] / 5 = [4 * 2^(2k - 1) + 9 * 3^(2k - 1)] / 5 = = [4 * 2^(2k - 1) + 4 * 3^(2k - 1)] / 5 + [5 * 3^(2k - 1)] / 5 = = 4 * [2^(2k - 1) + 3^(2k - 1)] / 5 + 3^(2k - 1) = = 4 * (some integer, by the assumption in 2.a) + 3^(2k - 1) = = integer * integer + integer = integer. Q.E.D. | April 12, 2005, 8:18 PM |
Slaughter | Ok, thanks Yoni. Q.E.D. = ? Maybe it's something simple, but it's meaning escapes me. | April 14, 2005, 7:13 PM |
Yoni | Quod Erat Demonstrandum. From Latin: That which was to be proven. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/QED.html | April 14, 2005, 8:41 PM |
Ender | Interesting. I have a question about inductive reasoning... [quote author=Yoni link=topic=11243.msg108216#msg108216 date=1113250717] Induction is: Given a proposition P(n) (a proposition P that talks about an integer n), proving by induction that the proposition is TRUE for all positive integers is: 1) Proving that P(1) is true, that is, the proposition is true for n = 1. 2) Showing that P(k) => P(k + 1) for every positive integer k. That is: 2.a) Assume P(k) is true, that is, the proposition is true for n = k for some positive integer k. 2.b) Based on the assumption "2.a", prove that P(k+1) is true, that is, the proposition is true for n = k + 1. [/quote] Is the first step necessary, or is it just a quick way of saving yourself work if the claim is false? My reasoning concludes that it's not. First you make the assumption that this holds true for any positive integer k (the set of values you are testing). If P(k) is true, then so would P(k+1), and since k+1 can represent any positive integer, this in effect means that P(k) is true, where n is any positive integer. I know the rule: if a then b then not necessarily if b then a but in this case this reasoning holds true since the only way that P(k+1) is true is that P(k) is also. | November 12, 2005, 3:42 AM |
Yoni | [quote author=Ender link=topic=11243.msg133715#msg133715 date=1131766949] Is the first step necessary, or is it just a quick way of saving yourself work if the claim is false? [/quote] Hmm, let's leave it out and try a nice proof. The integer sequence A(n) satisfies: A(n+1) = A(n) + 2. Prove by induction: All the integers in the sequence are even. 1. Assume A(k) is even for some k. Then A(k+1) = A(k) + 2. Since A(k) is even and 2 is even, then so is A(k)+2, i.e. A(k+1) is even. Therefore by induction, A(n) is even for all n. Q.E.D. Prove by induction: All the integers in the sequence are odd. 1. Assume A(k) is odd for some k. Then A(k+1) = A(k) + 2. Since A(k) is odd and 2 is even, then A(k)+2 is odd as well, i.e. A(k+1) is odd. Therefore by induction, A(n) is odd for all n. Q.E.D. | November 12, 2005, 9:58 PM |