Congrats to the whole clan for growing into what we are over the last 36 months.  Valhalla Legends was created on December 25, 1999 with Wizzbert, Raven, and myself.

Jigsaw and Joker were the 4th and 5th members, and Rebelflag, Dest, MrRogahs, Doomcloud, Darkvirus, and I think Valen, rounded out the first 10.  There's no absolute list of the first 10 so I may be wrong.

Merry Christmas and Happy Birthday

From Grok

...and the third year finishes off with Cuphead, iago, and Arta, thank you very much, and everybody between is lost in the croud; sorry guys! ;-)

Actually grok, I sponsored ])est to become a member, and was asked to be a member before the clan was even formed.

[quote author=Rule link=board=1;threadid=11;start=0#msg74393 date=1091828252]
Actually grok, I sponsored ])est to become a member, and was asked to be a member before the clan was even formed.



[/quote]

This gets the new record for bringing-up-dead-posts.

Speaking of members

Is the member list up to date?

Grok, an apology, (and not your sarcasm), would have been sufficient for such an obvious oversight.

I invested energy into making vL successful from its very beginnings, and that devotion deserves respect.

As a new member of this forum, I am reading many posts for the first time, as are many others I'm sure. To refrain from commenting on older posts that can yet be addressed is irrational.

As a friend, I mean no hostility. You would be offended if I made a point of talking about this clan's beginnings and failed to mention you.

Rule

Why can't some people separate "having respect for someone" from "not being allowed to tell if someone's done something wrong"?

Besides, it probably is a new record for bringing up long dead posts. I think the last offender brought up some year-old post or so, but this one was more than 1.5 years!

Actually I wasn't being sarcastic at all. My reply was only pointing out the date differential between the last previous reply and yours, and how it seemed to set a record! I thought it was interesting.

The other thing, we had already talked about that on bncs, so I saw no reason to discuss it further. If you feel slighted in some way, even after we talked, I cannot help that. This topic was not intended to be the official history of vL. And, if you read the last sentence of my post, you can clearly see that I was not sure of the first 10 members, so in your long long absence, you probably just slipped my mind. And no, you had nothing to do with the forming of vL. It was entirely Raven, Wizzbert and myself, and Wizzbert mostly just said uh-huh to everything. But dude, you're all vL as vL can get, but so is the newest member, whoever that is. And omg, is he gonna be pissed and feel slighted because I didn't call him out by name.

[quote author=Grok link=board=1;threadid=11;start=0#msg74442 date=1091848230]But dude, you're all vL as vL can get, but so is the newest member, whoever that is. And omg, is he gonna be pissed and feel slighted because I didn't call him out by name.[/quote]

hmm, I think at this point Hostile is still the newest member. Last I heard he was already pissed you wouldn't side with him in some dispute though, so maybe he'll just let this slide. ;)

[quote author=Kp link=board=1;threadid=11;start=0#msg74463 date=1091853605]
[quote author=Grok link=board=1;threadid=11;start=0#msg74442 date=1091848230]But dude, you're all vL as vL can get, but so is the newest member, whoever that is. And omg, is he gonna be pissed and feel slighted because I didn't call him out by name.[/quote]

hmm, I think at this point Hostile is still the newest member. Last I heard he was already pissed you wouldn't side with him in some dispute though, so maybe he'll just let this slide. ;)
[/quote]

Did anyone put his AO back? He must've calmed down by now, I just haven't been in the channel much at all lately (enjoying the sun!) and haven't remembered it.

Not that I've seen, but I haven't been checking too closely. I don't know if he's calmed down or not, since I haven't even seen him talk in channel (and no, it's not because of any filtering/squelches). Again, I haven't looked too closely, but I don't think he's even come back. I do know he did some naughty botnet related things at some point though.

Rule: I apologize if you have interpreted ANY of my remarks as belittling of you, in ANY way, because there is ZERO intention on my part to do any such thing. I have re-read my replies and do not see how they can be interpreted as belittling.

However, I do admit that I have been guilty in the past of having no tact, so perhaps this is yet another instance of the same. Even so, I do apologize that my bluntness has offended you, or my lack of tact has allowed you to interpret my remarks as somehow inflamatory. Friends??

YOU CAN'T TAKE MY FREEDOM! Ahhhhhhhhh!

heh
rule sucks

Good job brining up an almost 3 year old topic

[quote author=Details link=topic=11.msg92820#msg92820 date=1103388096]
Good job brining up an almost 3 year old topic
[/quote]

Who? And where do you get three from?

[quote author=hismajesty[yL] link=topic=11.msg92838#msg92838 date=1103393145]
[quote author=Details link=topic=11.msg92820#msg92820 date=1103388096]
Good job brining up an almost 3 year old topic
[/quote]

Who? And where do you get three from?
[/quote]
Public school...YAY!

Anyways, Happy Holidays or non-religious take-off from work time everyone!

Have a Krazy Kwanzaa everyone!

Valhalla Legends will have enjoyed 5 sustained years on battle.net as of December 25, 2004.

In doing so, we have made new friends, strengthened old friendships, had some great conversation, some fun and interesting projects, and maintained a place to gather and share our interests.  Additionally, we have been a model for many other clans or groups to base themselves, with modifications unique to their needs.  We have been fortunate to select well, by selecting carefully, those we honor with membership.  Some may slip by who we wish as members, but fortunately they mostly become our friends regardless.

Merry Christmas everyone, and here's to another 5 years!

Grok

You forgot to mention we made some great enemies too! ;)

Could have said some negatives, but was more interested in putting focus on positives.

MERRY CHRISTMAS ^^!! :)

Just to break the record of one year, eight months, I present to you one year, eleven months.

And sorry to Rule for taking his record, and to everyone else who thinks this is something new.

And while I'm at it, happy nearly 7th birthday, vL.

[quote author=Grok link=topic=11.msg93146#msg93146 date=1103661999]
Valhalla Legends will have enjoyed 5 sustained years on battle.net as of December 25, 2004.

In doing so, we have made new friends, strengthened old friendships, had some great conversation, some fun and interesting projects, and maintained a place to gather and share our interests.  Additionally, we have been a model for many other clans or groups to base themselves, with modifications unique to their needs.  We have been fortunate to select well, by selecting carefully, those we honor with membership.  Some may slip by who we wish as members, but fortunately they mostly become our friends regardless.

Merry Christmas everyone, and here's to another 5 years!

Grok

[/quote]


What is vl?

I never understood why the L is capitalized and the V isn't.

Neither do I, disco.. Neither do I.

Denial, Valhalla Legends. They worship Sir Oden. :)

It's Odin, you jackass.

Apologies for my blasphemy, Thor!

And why is that important?

[quote author=Denial link=topic=11.msg161786#msg161786 date=1164503959]
And why is that important?
[/quote]
Why isn't it?

I think vL looks better then VL.  Possibly that's why it's a lower case v and an uppercase L?

[quote author=AntiVirus link=topic=11.msg161792#msg161792 date=1164512824]
I think vL looks better then VL.  Possibly that's why it's a lower case v and an uppercase L?
[/quote]

Yeah that's what I figured.  I was just being difficult.  :P

[quote author=disco link=topic=11.msg161793#msg161793 date=1164515610]
[quote author=AntiVirus link=topic=11.msg161792#msg161792 date=1164512824]
I think vL looks better then VL.  Possibly that's why it's a lower case v and an uppercase L?
[/quote]

Yeah that's what I figured.  I was just being difficult.  :P
[/quote]
*sigh*
Some people these days. :P

It was originally named valhallaLegends. :)

[quote author=Joe[x86] link=topic=11.msg161814#msg161814 date=1164539576]
It was originally named valhallaLegends. :)
[/quote]
prove it

i remember asgard  with the stupid little thing over the a i think as the channel for [vL]

[quote author=heRo link=topic=11.msg161818#msg161818 date=1164543036]
[quote author=Joe[x86] link=topic=11.msg161814#msg161814 date=1164539576]
It was originally named valhallaLegends. :)
[/quote]
prove it
[/quote]

'twas a joke.

[quote author=Joe[x86] link=topic=11.msg161875#msg161875 date=1164608330]
[quote author=heRo link=topic=11.msg161818#msg161818 date=1164543036]
[quote author=Joe[x86] link=topic=11.msg161814#msg161814 date=1164539576]
It was originally named valhallaLegends. :)
[/quote]
prove it
[/quote]

'twas a joke.
[/quote]
as well as my post

It is vL because our tag on battle.net had square brackets around it.  [VL]Grok, just did not look right in Starcraft's chat font, while [vL] looked good.  At the time nobody else was using a mixed-case tag, so it also made us unique.

[quote author=Grok link=topic=11.msg161893#msg161893 date=1164615063]At the time nobody else was using a mixed-case tag, so it also made us unique.
[/quote]
Ahhh yes, the good ole days.  It was a simpler time, it was a better time.

[quote author=Grok link=topic=11.msg161893#msg161893 date=1164615063]
At the time nobody else was using a mixed-case tag, so it also made us unique.
[/quote]

I'm not so sure about that....
:P

[quote author=Grok link=topic=11.msg161893#msg161893 date=1164615063]
It is vL because our tag on battle.net had square brackets around it.  [VL]Grok, just did not look right in Starcraft's chat font, while [vL] looked good.  At the time nobody else was using a mixed-case tag, so it also made us unique.
[/quote]


WoLF`Adron[RIP] aka [vL]Adron


I can't remember which came first wolf or vl. It's been so long alot of me memory seems like everything came the same time.

[quote author=Denial link=topic=11.msg161944#msg161944 date=1164780401]
[quote author=Grok link=topic=11.msg161893#msg161893 date=1164615063]
It is vL because our tag on battle.net had square brackets around it.  [VL]Grok, just did not look right in Starcraft's chat font, while [vL] looked good.  At the time nobody else was using a mixed-case tag, so it also made us unique.
[/quote]


WoLF`Adron[RIP] aka [vL]Adron


I can't remember which came first wolf or vl. It's been so long alot of me memory seems like everything came the same time.
[/quote]

Both WoLF and RIP existed prior to vL.  As did AoF, RM, GKL, ]I[, RC, ][)K and TG|{, to list a few more examples.

[quote author=Rule link=topic=11.msg161975#msg161975 date=1164855246]
Both WoLF and RIP existed prior to vL.  As did AoF, RM, GKL, ]I[, RC, ][)K and TG|{, to list a few more examples.
[/quote]

Rule is right.  WoLF was a brotherhood, and had various significant (at the time) people from various top clans of the time.  Many WoLF are still friends and remain in regular contact.

Valhalla Legends was created a month or two after I left Royal Council.  Rule approached me with the idea to start a new clan that did not suffer the same defects as the de facto standard clan on battle.net of the day.  It took us about 3 days discussion of which principles we liked or disliked.  We created our own vision and laid out our principles, after which we spent another few hours coming up with the Valhalla Legends name.  Then it was just a matter of sharing the vision with the people we wanted to recruit.

[quote author=Rule link=topic=11.msg161922#msg161922 date=1164748467]
[quote author=Grok link=topic=11.msg161893#msg161893 date=1164615063]
At the time nobody else was using a mixed-case tag, so it also made us unique.
[/quote]

I'm not so sure about that....
:P


[/quote]

Which part?  I'm sure nobody was using a mixed-case tag.  I'm not sure if we started with ^vL^ or ^VL^ but either way it was horrid!  Glad we switched to [vL].

[quote author=Grok link=topic=11.msg162012#msg162012 date=1164905168]
[quote author=Rule link=topic=11.msg161922#msg161922 date=1164748467]
[quote author=Grok link=topic=11.msg161893#msg161893 date=1164615063]
At the time nobody else was using a mixed-case tag, so it also made us unique.
[/quote]

I'm not so sure about that....
:P


[/quote]

Which part?  I'm sure nobody was using a mixed-case tag.  I'm not sure if we started with ^vL^ or ^VL^ but either way it was horrid!  Glad we switched to [vL].
[/quote]


I remember ^VL^ i was wondering which idiot decided to do that.

You should have made the tag "@vL!" and showed some enthusiasm. :P

This thread is now the official "reminiscing about the old b.net days".

Long live [vL]












...and
[img]http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5541/idvg5.gif[/img]

[quote author=Invert link=topic=11.msg162023#msg162023 date=1164922500]
This thread is now the official "reminiscing about the old b.net days".

Long live [vL]












...and
[img]http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5541/idvg5.gif[/img]
[/quote]


I remember when invert joined vl was a intresting day was the same day they made bush president.

[quote author=Denial link=topic=11.msg162027#msg162027 date=1164929567]
I remember when invert joined vl was a intresting day was the same day they made bush president.
[/quote]

Actually I joined under Big Willy.
There is no way you could remember this, you were under the age of 13 and were unable to play any Blizzard games since they were rated M and T. You were not on Battle.net at that time.

[quote author=Invert link=topic=11.msg162054#msg162054 date=1164996390]
[quote author=Denial link=topic=11.msg162027#msg162027 date=1164929567]
I remember when invert joined vl was a intresting day was the same day they made bush president.
[/quote]

Actually I joined under Big Willy.
There is no way you could remember this, you were under the age of 13 and were unable to play any Blizzard games since they were rated M and T. You were not on Battle.net at that time.
[/quote]

lol?  I've been playing since I was in 2nd grade back in '97 and that M rating never stopped me.

[quote author=Grok link=topic=11.msg162012#msg162012 date=1164905168]
[quote author=Rule link=topic=11.msg161922#msg161922 date=1164748467]
[quote author=Grok link=topic=11.msg161893#msg161893 date=1164615063]
At the time nobody else was using a mixed-case tag, so it also made us unique.
[/quote]

I'm not so sure about that....
:P


[/quote]

Which part?  I'm sure nobody was using a mixed-case tag.  I'm not sure if we started with ^vL^ or ^VL^ but either way it was horrid!  Glad we switched to [vL].
[/quote]

oh.. i wonderd if the ^vL^ tag was related to [vL] cuz i still see some ^vL^ tags floatin around in some starcraft games like Zombie^vL^ i think...ect..

I remember RC :P
(WD) was around for a long time, though I don't talk to anyone from it at all anymore, I still have an account for it.

I remember tgk, and ][)K and ^Sw^Linda, and SC shareware ascii bots.

Merry Christmas.... and happy 9th birthday.  Obviously this is no longer the same community it used to be, but it's still a place where good old friends can reach one another, and for that I'm very happy that it still exists.

[quote author=Rule link=topic=11.msg180945#msg180945 date=1230230070]
Merry Christmas.... and happy 9th birthday.  Obviously this is no longer the same community it used to be, but it's still a place where good old friends can reach one another, and for that I'm very happy that it still exists.

[/quote]
Merry Christmas.
9 years damn has it been that long already?

There is still some old timers around :)

4 and half years on the forum - almost -_-

Heh,

I remember when it used to be a gamers.com board or something...

Thanks vL for continuing to host the Botdev community forum after we were closed from gamers.com

It would be interesting to see some oldies flawk around on Battle.Net again...

But growing up means saying good bye to old habbits which is what many people have done. I'll be doing that next year when I transfer to FSU.

Since I didn't have the chance to say it... Merry X-MAS!

and a happy new year! ~_~

[quote author=PunK link=topic=11.msg180974#msg180974 date=1230501175]
I'll be doing that next year when I transfer to FSU.
[/quote]

I thought you said that you were at FSU already?

I'm at UCF & a local community college.