Valhalla Legends Forums Archive | Battle.net Bot Development | BNLS Kerplosion?

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Myndfyr
It appears that the BNLS server is unreachable....  I thought there might just be something wrong with my bot (or perhaps what it's resolving to), but Stealthbot also doesn't connect.  After tracert-ing, I think the problem might be on my end, but I'm not sure:

Here's the result from tracert:

[code]
Tracing route to bnls.valhallalegends.com [63.161.183.202]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    *        *        *    Request timed out.
  2    32 ms    32 ms    32 ms  192.168.100.1
  3    33 ms    34 ms    36 ms  192.168.10.6
  4    33 ms    33 ms    34 ms  phx-edge-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.129.81]
  5    34 ms    33 ms    34 ms  tmp-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.129.5]
  6    46 ms    46 ms    47 ms  bur-core-03.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.1]
  7    45 ms    44 ms    45 ms  bur-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.13.45]
  8    45 ms    44 ms    46 ms  bur-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.13.50]
  9    48 ms    50 ms    49 ms  sl-bb22-ana-6-2.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.237]
10    76 ms    75 ms    76 ms  sl-bb22-fw-10-1.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.250]
11    76 ms    76 ms    76 ms  sl-gw22-fw-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.0.131]
12    87 ms    96 ms    96 ms  sl-vpnsys-1-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.221.26]
13    *        *        *    Request timed out.
14    *        *        *    Request timed out.
15    *        *        *    Request timed out.
16    *        *        *    Request timed out.
17    *        *        *    Request timed out.
18    *        *        *    Request timed out.
19    *        *        *    Request timed out.
20    *        *        *    Request timed out.
21    *        *
[/code]
I got sick of seeing a bunch of timeouts.

Any ideas?  My router is set up correctly (this machine is supposed to be DMZ), ports are open....  So I'm at a loss.
December 26, 2004, 1:44 AM
iago
Looks to me like you got to Thing's backbone, then hit a firewall.  You'll just keep getting timeouts to 30 if you hit a firewall.
December 26, 2004, 2:14 AM
KkBlazekK
BNLS, BNETDocs, and the main vL site are down.
December 26, 2004, 2:28 AM
Mephisto
Thanks for the input.  *sigh*
December 26, 2004, 3:52 AM
UserLoser.
If you didn't change anything on your side, it's obviously not your problem.  If you were to try accessing the server though your web browser or Telnet, you'll probably get the same results.  Also, I don't think we need an update everytime the server is not reachable [or down]
December 26, 2004, 5:32 AM
Myndfyr
[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=10017.msg93535#msg93535 date=1104039162]
If you didn't change anything on your side, it's obviously not your problem.  If you were to try accessing the server though your web browser or Telnet, you'll probably get the same results.  Also, I don't think we need an update everytime the server is not reachable [or down]
[/quote]

That's not necessarily true.  My host is very fickle; could be that they decided to block port 9367, or my DNS needs to be refreshed.

I was checking to see if other people were experiencing the problem as well.  Hence the "?" at the end of the topic title.
December 26, 2004, 5:35 AM
Quarantine
Any idea why its not working is it down or is it unreachable?
December 26, 2004, 6:43 AM
Mephisto
[quote author=MyndFyre link=topic=10017.msg93536#msg93536 date=1104039300]
[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=10017.msg93535#msg93535 date=1104039162]
If you didn't change anything on your side, it's obviously not your problem.  If you were to try accessing the server though your web browser or Telnet, you'll probably get the same results.  Also, I don't think we need an update everytime the server is not reachable [or down]
[/quote]

That's not necessarily true.  My host is very fickle; could be that they decided to block port 9367, or my DNS needs to be refreshed.

I was checking to see if other people were experiencing the problem as well.  Hence the "?" at the end of the topic title.
[/quote]

Fight Fight Fight!
:)
December 26, 2004, 6:43 AM
idoL
[quote author=UserLoser link=topic=10017.msg93535#msg93535 date=1104039162]I don't think we need an update everytime the server is not reachable [or down]
[/quote]
[quote][/quote]

BNLS and vL-related things seem to have been down for awhile now so an update or an awnser on the problem would be nice from someone.
December 26, 2004, 7:13 AM
Mephisto
The [vL] server seems to be down at least once a week lately.
December 26, 2004, 8:00 AM
idoL
Stop using Windows 2000 as a server computer.  :P
December 26, 2004, 5:06 PM
dRAgoN
[quote author=Snake link=topic=10017.msg93556#msg93556 date=1104080767]
Stop using Windows 2000 as a server computer.  :P
[/quote]

I doubt that Win2K is used as his servers OS.
December 26, 2004, 5:35 PM
iago
It's using some form of Windows, that's bad enough :P

And if you don't like it, stop using BNLS.  You can run a JBLS server locally :)
December 26, 2004, 5:47 PM
-MichaeL-
Hrmmm... When will it be fixed!! ahhhh!!!!, runs around screaming of the horror!!!!
December 26, 2004, 6:09 PM
Mephisto
[quote author=iago link=topic=10017.msg93559#msg93559 date=1104083226]
It's using some form of Windows, that's bad enough :P

And if you don't like it, stop using BNLS.  You can run a JBLS server locally :)
[/quote]

As UserLoser has shown me, JBLS is crap (assumes things it shouldn't to start), and not to mention that it doesn't support hashing old-style clients with BNLS_HASHDATA.

And what's wrong with using Windows 2000 as your server OS?  IIRC that is what Grok loaded on the [vL] server before shipping it off to Thing's network (which I was surprised Thing would accept it since it had Windows on it).  ;)
December 26, 2004, 7:19 PM
KkBlazekK
[quote author=Mephisto link=topic=10017.msg93564#msg93564 date=1104088744]
As UserLoser has shown me, JBLS is crap (assumes things it shouldn't to start), and not to mention that it doesn't support hashing old-style clients with BNLS_HASHDATA
[/quote]
Me and God_Of_Slayers got The-Fool to add this. Maybe if you annoy him enough he'll release the version we have.
December 26, 2004, 7:39 PM
iago
[quote author=Mephisto link=topic=10017.msg93564#msg93564 date=1104088744]
And what's wrong with using Windows 2000 as your server OS?
[/quote]

That's a thread all by itself, but we won't bother with all the details.  Basically, Windows XP SP2 (according to a Microsoft security guy that came to our work) was just 200MB of security fixes.  These fixes aren't included in 2k or nt.  Some problems (like the infamous iframe exploit, among others) don't affect SP2, which means they made security fixes that were unannounced, which means that 2k has a lot of security holes that they haven't announced yet.
December 26, 2004, 7:54 PM
Mephisto
Sorry, I generalized a bit, but it seems to be whenever you flame a specific version of Windows, you're just talking about Windows in general.  :)
December 26, 2004, 8:32 PM
bethra
Yeah BNLS has been down for more than days now I believe.

NOONE I've talked to on BNet has been able to logon with Stealtbot with BNLS.  Nor have I been able to work on my bot with BNLS.

Damn it sucks.  Goes to show how many people are reliant on BNLS.
December 26, 2004, 9:11 PM
Myndfyr
[quote author=iago link=topic=10017.msg93568#msg93568 date=1104090891]
That's a thread all by itself, but we won't bother with all the details.  Basically, Windows XP SP2 (according to a Microsoft security guy that came to our work) was just 200MB of security fixes.  These fixes aren't included in 2k or nt.  Some problems (like the infamous iframe exploit, among others) don't affect SP2, which means they made security fixes that were unannounced, which means that 2k has a lot of security holes that they haven't announced yet.
[/quote]

What are you doing using an internet browser on a machine that probably shouldn't even be logged into interactively?
December 26, 2004, 9:38 PM
UserLoser.
Hash Warcraft III?  Warcraft III.exe?  What/why would you hash it?
December 26, 2004, 10:25 PM
Forged
[quote author=Sorc.Polgara link=topic=10017.msg93588#msg93588 date=1104099575]
So wait a second... I was talking to some of my clan members who were also complaining about BNLS being down and I told them that only the guys who run BNLS (Yoni and Skywing I believe) are the only non-blizzard persons to have successfully hashed Warcraft III passwords...

So is this guys, The-Fool or w/e has also hashed Warcraft III passwords?



Lemme get this straight, JBLS can be run as a local server... meaning it runs on your computar.  Wouldn't it be faster that BNLS since it runs on your computar?  Where can I get it?

[me=Sorc.Polgara]= noob[/me]
[/quote]

JBLS was made using stolen code (I think), other people have made war3 bots that do not require the use of BNLS though.  Iago's Java Op for example.

As for the JBLS question, it wouldn't really be faster, and it would require you use a bot that runs off of that server.
December 26, 2004, 11:08 PM
Mephisto
JBLS uses iago's code.
December 26, 2004, 11:56 PM
Quarantine
Its up  :)
December 27, 2004, 1:25 AM
CrAz3D
[quote author=Forged link=topic=10017.msg93594#msg93594 date=1104102502]

JBLS was made using stolen code (I think), other people have made war3 bots that do not require the use of BNLS though.  iago's Java Op for example.


[/quote]JBLS is legit...

Why bother with BNLS, just wait for it to come back in a few hours/days?
December 27, 2004, 4:16 AM
iago
[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=10017.msg93607#msg93607 date=1104120996]
[quote author=Forged link=topic=10017.msg93594#msg93594 date=1104102502]

JBLS was made using stolen code (I think), other people have made war3 bots that do not require the use of BNLS though.  iago's Java Op for example.


[/quote]JBLS is legit...

Why bother with BNLS, just wait for it to come back in a few hours/days?
[/quote]

Yes, it's legit based on my opensource code.
December 27, 2004, 6:12 AM
iago
[quote author=MyndFyre link=topic=10017.msg93587#msg93587 date=1104097133]
[quote author=iago link=topic=10017.msg93568#msg93568 date=1104090891]
That's a thread all by itself, but we won't bother with all the details.  Basically, Windows XP SP2 (according to a Microsoft security guy that came to our work) was just 200MB of security fixes.  These fixes aren't included in 2k or nt.  Some problems (like the infamous iframe exploit, among others) don't affect SP2, which means they made security fixes that were unannounced, which means that 2k has a lot of security holes that they haven't announced yet.
[/quote]

What are you doing using an internet browser on a machine that probably shouldn't even be logged into interactively?
[/quote]

That was an example, there have been several vulnerabilities found since the release of SP2 that affect SP1 and not SP2.  That means that they fixed holes without announcing them in SP2.  Having known and unannounced vulnerabilities is extremely scary.
December 27, 2004, 6:14 AM
Zakath
[quote author=iago link=topic=10017.msg93612#msg93612 date=1104127971]Yes, it's legit based on my opensource code.[/quote]

Ah yes, kind of like mine. :)
December 28, 2004, 12:31 AM
Forged
[quote author=iago link=topic=10017.msg93612#msg93612 date=1104127971]
[quote author=CrAz3D link=topic=10017.msg93607#msg93607 date=1104120996]
[quote author=Forged link=topic=10017.msg93594#msg93594 date=1104102502]

JBLS was made using stolen code (I think), other people have made war3 bots that do not require the use of BNLS though.  iago's Java Op for example.


[/quote]JBLS is legit...

Why bother with BNLS, just wait for it to come back in a few hours/days?
[/quote]

Yes, it's legit based on my opensource code.

[/quote]

There was one that wasn't, I assumed that was it. Sorry sir.
December 28, 2004, 1:30 AM
R.a.B.B.i.T
JBLS is simple, though: run it, connect, close it.  You can set the BNLS server on a lot of bots nowadays, so just running JBLS with the server set to 127.0.0.1/localhost is enough, you don't actually have to try and find a JBLS server.
December 28, 2004, 5:08 AM
idoL
[quote author=iago link=topic=10017.msg93559#msg93559 date=1104083226]
It's using some form of Windows, that's bad enough :P

And if you don't like it, stop using BNLS.  You can run a JBLS server locally :)
[/quote]

Hi iago, I dont use BNLS at all as I prefer local hasing, as for Windows vs Linux on hosting or networking, personally I dont network or host and dont have a strong opinion, my previous post was just poking fun. Since switching to Linux and open source software recently I can personally say I enjoy Linux (RedHat 9.0) over Windows (2000 and XP) because it is just generally stable from my judgement, it's definitly not for everybody though.
December 28, 2004, 5:09 AM
Zakath
[quote author=R.a.B.B.i.T link=topic=10017.msg93694#msg93694 date=1104210499]
JBLS is simple, though: run it, connect, close it.  You can set the BNLS server on a lot of bots nowadays, so just running JBLS with the server set to 127.0.0.1/localhost is enough, you don't actually have to try and find a JBLS server.
[/quote]

If you're going to do all that, why not just put the code into the bot itself? Seems sort of silly to run a logon-generation server locally.
December 29, 2004, 1:20 AM
R.a.B.B.i.T
Because most people don't have the source code to the bot they are using (IE: StealthBot).
However, if the bot is not in Java, the porting of JBLS could take a long while.
December 29, 2004, 3:46 AM
Yoni
Administration warning: I'm at the army and Skywing's been eaten by WoW.
January 7, 2005, 9:22 PM
Zakath
[quote author=R.a.B.B.i.T link=topic=10017.msg93788#msg93788 date=1104291967]
Because most people don't have the source code to the bot they are using (IE: StealthBot).
However, if the bot is not in Java, the porting of JBLS could take a long while.
[/quote]

It took me somewhere in the vicinity of one day to successfully port iago's Java logon procedure. It doesn't take a "long while" at all.
January 7, 2005, 10:00 PM
R.a.B.B.i.T
True, but you're also a lot smarter than the average bot programmer.
January 8, 2005, 12:14 AM

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